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View Poll Results: are you happy with the results of the confidence vote?
yes 18 90.00%
no way, bring down the government now! 2 10.00%
don't care either way 0 0%
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Old May 20, 05
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happy with results of the confidence vote?

i'm happy that we are not going to an election right now, and that Harper's political vulture plan didn't work; however, i'm not pleased with the way that the Liberal party seemed to scramble and grasp for anyway possible that they could hang onto power. i mean, i understand why they were doing what they were doing, but it looked so desperate and pathetic.
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The whole debacle is utter rubbish!
It's embarrasing that our elected leaders are traipsing through such rot!

Unfortunately, it shows the politicians to be just what they all are: tryte shyte.

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Old May 20, 05
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after 6 votes for yes, and 25 views of this thread. im assuming that only people that voted liberal even checked out this thread.
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heeey 1 down EIGHT TO GO!
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If they really want to take down a Government they should do it proper. With a lot of Soldiers. :)
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the leader of the smaller sect of the coalition doesn't get to be Prime Minister, so he tries to bring down the parliament in better hopes that he can garner enough support to become pm himself.

Sounds familiar.
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after 6 votes for yes, and 25 views of this thread. im assuming that only people that voted liberal even checked out this thread.
Either that or, you know, the conservatives really aren't in touch with their constituents.....

Just because someone voted tory doesn't mean they want to waste more taxpayer money with an election. A vote doesn't mean "I condone everything these people do, it is my opinion they are infallible." Your logic is as flawed as the "people who don't vote can't complain" bullshit.

I think the best irony out of this whole debacle is that it was over the budget.

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I think its pretty hurting that Martin increases aid to the Darfur region just to win over David kilgour's independent vote. Sure its great but the motivation behind it is disappointing.
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Funny..how I'm the only vote for "no"

I say the Liberals look weak ass now that they had to have that whole fiasco. They're a bunch of fucking losers though, the way they cheer and shit. The opposition is laughing at them. What a fucking bunch of teamsters.
They should've had an election now..not later...I'd like to see if it changes anything.
Now they have some extra time to cover the bullshit up to get votes...ridiculous...if we had suprise elections on all parties...then we'd actually get somewhere. They tear shit up for three years...then in the last year they make up some good statistics to "appear" to be forreal..
All in all..the definition of a politician never contained the word real.
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Your logic is as flawed as the "people who don't vote can't complain" bullshit.
i didnt vote, the party i wanted to win, ended up winning anyways. in fact, all this talk about politics bores me to hell. we need to start determining winners by good old fashioned games of rock paper scissors.

i call rock

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Funny..how I'm the only vote for "no"

I say the Liberals look weak ass now that they had to have that whole fiasco. They're a bunch of fucking losers though, the way they cheer and shit. The opposition is laughing at them. What a fucking bunch of teamsters.
1- I would hope they would cheer, wouldn't you?
2- I don't think that the conservitives laughing at them is going to make them sad.


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They should've had an election now..not later...I'd like to see if it changes anything.
Yes it would, voter turnout would be at a record low, and there aren't many big key issues since the the last election.

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Now they have some extra time to cover the bullshit up to get votes...ridiculous...if we had suprise elections on all parties...then we'd actually get somewhere. They tear shit up for three years...then in the last year they make up some good statistics to "appear" to be forreal..
All in all..the definition of a politician never contained the word real.
Whatevs* Canada TM has always been weak!

Face it, an election right now is a bad idea.

The public does not want one, at all. It's too early, it's a waste of money at this point. Wait till the government has a chance to actually do something.

All in all though, the convservitives look really bad after this. They went against public opinion which is never a good idea.
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Old May 22, 05
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after 6 votes for yes, and 25 views of this thread. im assuming that only people that voted liberal even checked out this thread.
i didn't vote liberal and i made this thread.

but i didn't vote conservative either, so there you go. (voted NDP, federal and provincial)
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1- I would hope they would cheer, wouldn't you?
2- I don't think that the conservitives laughing at them is going to make them sad.

It's business...the most important business in our country. Only people that question their abilities to win cheer. So yeah..I'd hope they wouldn't cheer. It'd make me feel like they were more in control. Not playing teety totter with the voting system. To me, they looked like FOOLS.

Just smile and do the fist pump*..like "In your face." pick up your books say..."It was a close race..but the right people won." and make for the door to get back to work..

I wouldn't agree with anything they do in that "crazy house". They argue like children, repeat themselves like low-life salesmen and jeer like hockey fans. I'd hope they were a little more sophisticated than the rest of us...but they're worse.
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It's business...the most important business in our country. Only people that question their abilities to win cheer. So yeah..I'd hope they wouldn't cheer. It'd make me feel like they were more in control. Not playing teety totter with the voting system. To me, they looked like FOOLS.
You don't know anything about parliamentary procedure, do you?
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The debate procedures that the Parliament chooses is not by any means respectable..by my standards;P It's good for TV, and it seems to be the accepted way to go about creating a democracy..but they have no prestige...if you know what I mean. I can eat a hot dog with more class.
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If I were to create a whole new way of going about things in Parliament...I would make politicians people that represented what everyone wanted to be...kind of like Hollywood...except..they actually know about politics;P
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The debate procedures that the Parliament chooses is not by any means respectable..by my standards;P It's good for TV, and it seems to be the accepted way to go about creating a democracy..but they have no prestige...if you know what I mean. I can eat a hot dog with more class.
That's funny, because it's been happening that way long before TV existed.

Long.

Heckling and cheering have been around since Ancient Greece's Senate.
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If I were to create a whole new way of going about things in Parliament...I would make politicians people that represented what everyone wanted to be...kind of like Hollywood...except..they actually know about politics;P
That sounds like a sound well thought out plan.

Good luck with that.
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That's funny, because it's been happening that way long before TV existed.

Long.

Heckling and cheering have been around since Ancient Greece's Senate.
I said it's good for TV, I didn't mean created for TV, but as entertaining and ill-humoured as any reality TV show where you look at the main characters and think..."Is their no humanity!?"

Ancient Greece...well, hell now* I hope we all try to be a bit more like our predecessors. We are losing our roots with this newly aqcuired benevolence.
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the role of a politician is to redistribute wealth amongst his most vocal constituents. how could this system NOT be corrupt?
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If they really want to take down a Government they should do it proper. With a lot of Soldiers. :)
Well it would be a fairly typical approach for right wing extremists to take (aka the conservatives), after all god is on their side.

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I'm not sure how well they do in federal elections but they got a whole 1003 votes this last provincial election (province wide). In fact from the looks of things you could run as a candidate in the next election.

Here's a choice quote from their platform, "We are opposed to government restrictions on the voluntary choices adults make with respect to food stuffs, sex, drugs, bicycle helmets and rock climbing." For the sake of people that happen to be this fucking stupid it's a good thing we do have laws regarding public safety.

BC Libertarian Party http://www.libertarian.bc.ca/

Federal Libertarian Party http://www.libertarian.ca/

As far as not having a snap election right now I'm very happy. The federal budget looks pretty decent and I don't think it's appropriate to make an election the judge and jury of this scandal. I want to see the people responsible face criminal charges and as much of the money should be recovered as possible.

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I said it's good for TV, I didn't mean created for TV, but as entertaining and ill-humoured as any reality TV show where you look at the main characters and think..."Is their no humanity!?"

Ancient Greece...well, hell now* I hope we all try to be a bit more like our predecessors. We are losing our roots with this newly aqcuired benevolence.
It's how issues get addressed. If everybody in parliament shut up like it was a fucking golf match, there wouldn't be any debate, or the debate would take forever.

It's called "parliament" for a reason.
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If they really want to take down a Government they should do it proper. With a lot of Soldiers. :)
Because that worked so well for Hitler.

OMG GODWIN'S.
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Old May 23, 05
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Yes and No.

After us the taxpayers were taken for 100 million dollars, I have big problems with the Liberal party, and the corruption of it's leadership. This is whois running our country, and it shouldn't be! Now with news of bribery on the non confidence vote, the stench of corruption isn't going away. The saying "shot yourself in the foot" doesn't work here. The words "blew my leg off" fits the current situation of the Liberal party. However another election would cost over 100 million dollars, and we the taxpayers don't need another bill like that.
The Liberal party should ask for resignations from all people remotely involved with the Sponsorship Scandal. They should elect a new leader, so that maybe on just a chance the Liberal party can save some face. Maybe Belinda could do better! lol

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Sometimes I think if the west is going to get heard, that's what it's going to take. Ontario owns...ugh
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