Vaccines and the link to Autism

[wum]

Find out how the pharmaceutical community has been dumbing down the population.

Click here

[Cdn_Brdr]

Man..... my life is way too short to be a stressed out conspiracy theorist......

[.muffy.]

this has been a well known theory being tossed around for years now

http://www.cdc.gov/nip/vacsafe/conce...sm/default.htm
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=32988
http://www.nichd.nih.gov/publications/pubs/autism2.htm

^^^for more info ^^^

[robyn]

We already talked about this:

http://www.fnk.ca/board/showthread.php?t=73544

[esoter1c]

Last year the CIA admitted to STERILIZING more than 1/2 the women in Brazil.

The Reason ?

The answer the CIA gave: "Brazil may become an Economical threat to America."

After the Gulf War 100's of soldiers died after being given "VACCINES" against Biological Weapons.

It's called the Center for Disease Control, "Control" not Cure.

Medicine = Masonry ;) (Caduceus?)

[esoter1c]

Originally Posted by Cdn_Brdr

Man..... my life is way too short to be a stressed out conspiracy theorist......

What if maybe you have to come back until you figure the "Conspiracy" out ?

[Cdn_Brdr]

^better things to do.... like live my life..... :)

[esoter1c]

Your life is living you ?

[wum]

Originally Posted by robyn

We already talked about this:

http://www.fnk.ca/board/showthread.php?t=73544

it's important to see who funds the studies.

The FDA is NOT independant.

[robyn]

^That's actually a good point. But I don't so much believe there's been an increase in autism so much as an increase in misdiagnosis.

[wum]

Originally Posted by robyn

^That's actually a good point. But I don't so much believe there's been an increase in autism so much as an increase in misdiagnosis.

so did you listen to it

[robyn]

Nope!

[wum]

Originally Posted by robyn

Nope!

you totally should :)

[veN]

There are many things they have been "linked" to Autism. They're still really just grabbing at straws. Vaccines =/= a cause of ASD absolutely. It really is still a mystery.

[wum]

^ there's much more than that

[veN]

^ Sorry, I have no clue what you said in that post, or any of your posts for that matter. I'm just gonna go on thinking I'm right =)

[Ree Fresh]

^ Double agreeing with Nev on that lol

[diva]

Originally Posted by robyn

^That's actually a good point. But I don't so much believe there's been an increase in autism so much as an increase in misdiagnosis.

meant as a response to wum, not robyn, sorry.

FDA isn't independent, but there have been independent studies done out there to find out if there is a link between vaccines and autism and there is none. Besides, even if there was, your child would have a much higher risk of contracting a disease he wasn't immiunized against than getting autism. There is no link, but if I was to play along with one of wum's stupid little theories for a second.

a few parents who buy into media hype stop vaccinating their children: there's something called herd immunity that will protect your kid as long as other kids are immunized. but the fewer children that get immumized, the higher the chances of your kid contracting the illness. basically, parents who don't get their children imminized are relying on parents who do get their children immunized to protect their own. pretty soon, this system stops working because more and more children go unprotected against childhood diseases.

a lot of daycare centres and elementary schools wont let children in who haven't been immunized against certain diseases because it puts everyone else at a higher risk--even the adults who work with them.

there are still isolated cases of whooping caugh in this province each year because of parents who wont immunize.

naturopatic vaccines do not work because in order for your body to build up immunity to something, it has to be exposed to it (or at least some part of it).

and unless everyone working in the pharmaceutical industry is childless on top of being heartless, there is very little chance of this being a well hidden conspiracy.

[diva]

Another reason why there might be an increase in ASD is because women in North America and Europe are having children a lot later in life.

The average age in Vancouver for a woman to have her first child is 31 right now, and that number is probably going to get higher.

The second a woman hits the age of 35, her baby will have much higher chances of being born with congenital defects and genetic disorders like Downs.

[wum]

Originally Posted by diva

There is no link, but if I was to play along with one of wum's stupid little theories for a second.

how about you try actually listening to the link like no else is doing before you say that :)

Originally Posted by diva

a lot of daycare centres and elementary schools wont let children in who haven't been immunized against certain diseases because it puts everyone else at a higher risk--even the adults who work with them.

as you just laid out, herd immunity should solve that problem. But of course that's not their aim. No, they're so obsessed with injecting aborted fetus tissue and mercury and other pathogens that they'll subsidize schools to do it, and come up with things like the "Freedom Initiative" which mandates forced psychological testing for school children.

And if we believe their figures, 1 in 6 American kids have a neurological disability. These people make up the new priest class of the NWO and they love their father, the Devil

Originally Posted by diva

and unless everyone working in the pharmaceutical industry is childless on top of being heartless, there is very little chance of this being a well hidden conspiracy.

The FDA typically charges 800 million dollars to pass a new drug.

Now the question is, are they really that obsessed with assuring your safety? Or are they effectively blocking the passage of naturopathic non-patentable drugs and making them illegal to the general public and thus reinforcing the monopoly big pharma has on making medicine?

Not only do we have basic racketeering going on, but only so much money can be made until these megalomaniacs want to move on to better and bigger things: absolute control.

They've already impregnated themselves into public education, and are pushing for new laws all the time. Is it so hard to believe that they're pure evil?

[diva]

Originally Posted by wum

how about you try actually listening to the link like no else is doing before you say that :)as you just laid out, herd immunity should solve that problem. But of course that's not their aim.

herd immunity only works if people immunize their kids. you don't get it, idiot. the only reason that freaks like you who belive this shit can get away with not having your kids contract a horrible disease is because rational parents get their kids immumized!

Originally Posted by wum

And if we believe their figures, 1 in 6 American kids have a neurological disability.

That depends on what the definition of a neurological disability is. One would say that someone like youself, who is obsessed with conspiracy theories and the NWO, has a neurological disability.

Originally Posted by wum

Now the question is, are they really that obsessed with assuring your safety? Or are they effectively blocking the passage of naturopathic non-patentable drugs and making them illegal to the general public and thus reinforcing the monopoly big pharma has on making medicine?

Which part of naturopathic imminization not working did you not understand? In order for your body to make memory cells, and eventually make t cells to kill disease, it has to be exposed to the EXACT SAME PROTEIN THAT'S IN THE DISEASE.

Also again, do you want us to believe that the makers of these immunizations (who on average have 2.5 children each) are out to consipire to produce a future generation of neurologically deficient first worlders? Come now, Wum. Even that doesn't make sense. In order for the white race to survive (and these companies are run by white people, right?) you can't have genetically inferior people running around. The asians might take over if that ever happened. THINK.

I'm sure everyone who's alive today and doesn't have to worry about getting polio (btw, it hasn't been completely irradicated. there are a few reports of outbreaks on the world health organization's website every year) or smallpox or even a horrible case of the flu will have to rethink their faith in modern day medicine.

Holy fuck, I can't believe I took you off of my ignore list. I'm going to cry.

[wum]

Originally Posted by diva

herd immunity only works if people immunize their kids. you don't get it, idiot. the only reason that freaks like you who belive this shit can get away with not having your kids contract a horrible disease is because rational parents get their kids immumized!

yes, but you were making the case for EVERY person to get immunized, because they would be a danger to others. Or something like that.

Originally Posted by diva

That depends on what the definition of a neurological disability is. One would say that someone like youself, who is obsessed with conspiracy theories and the NWO, has a neurological disability.

The definitions seems to change all the time it seems. It's just funny how the people who come out with these new pathologies also have vested interests in the big pharma companies.

I don't blame them, it's called marketing. My only problem is when they have lobbying powers and can work themselves into public education or make American congress change laws, or slip something into the Patriot Act that wouldn't allow you to sue them for malpractice

Originally Posted by diva

Which part of naturopathic imminization not working did you not understand? In order for your body to make memory cells, and eventually make t cells to kill disease, it has to be exposed to the EXACT SAME PROTEIN THAT'S IN THE DISEASE.

the point I was trying to make was that it's not that difficult to believe there's a conspiracy with the drug companies.

Originally Posted by diva

Also again, do you want us to believe that the makers of these immunizations (who on average have 2.5 children each) are out to consipire to produce a future generation of neurologically deficient first worlders? Come now, Wum. Even that doesn't make sense. In order for the white race to survive (and these companies are run by white people, right?) you can't have genetically inferior people running around. The asians might take over if that ever happened. THINK.

wow, let's try to keep that racial stuff on the LP

j/k :P the people running the NWO are decidedly anti-white, hence the obsession with 'multi-culturalism' and dissolving any last white nation state.

Feminism was also a tool used to decrease the white birth rate, where you have places like Russia and parts of Western Europe actually shrinking.

At the same time jobs and technology and military hardware is transfered everyday to China.

Even if 'white people' make up the higher echelons, they seem not to give a shit. It seems that in the non-western world people are easily dominated and fall prey to Tyranny whereas whites have traditions of liberty and prosperity. My theory is that the NWO sees a cohesive white population as an obstacle (I hope that wasn't offensive to anyone).

Originally Posted by diva

I'm sure everyone who's alive today and doesn't have to worry about getting polio (btw, it hasn't been completely irradicated. there are a few reports of outbreaks on the world health organization's website every year) or smallpox or even a horrible case of the flu will have to rethink their faith in modern day medicine.

that's a bit of a funny story because it seems that the 'almost eradicated' bird flu that was cultivated by the US government was accidently mailed out to over 4000 laboratories



http://www.fnk.ca/board/showthread.php?t=76252

Originally Posted by diva

Holy fuck, I can't believe I took you off of my ignore list. I'm going to cry.

let's never fight again.

[diva]

Are you replying to this thread with any real knowledge of your own? Because I can tell you right now that I didn't have to switch windows to look up any fucked up conspiracy theory websites in order to reply to you.

I tend to get really worked up when having to deal with people who can't seem to bring forth a logical argument. I mean fuck, i'm one of the most non-linear thinkers you'll probably ever meet, but at least I can argue a position with some fucking logic.

I glanced at your last post but when I realized that you were into your usual delusions about things like feminism being a tool to decrease the white birth rate, I stopped reading. You're not a rational person when it comes to stuff like this. I can recognize this trait in you because i'm not a rational person when it comes to a lot of stuff. But seriously, you're growing up. If you do believe so strongly in the things in which you post on this board, become more educated about them. Look beyond the regular sources that you use to learn about this stuff. Find out what your sources use to get their information.

If you're ever going to make people believe in what you have to say, you're going to have to know your subject of interest inside and out. You can't just think pharmaceutical companies operate a certain way, you have to be certain of it. You can't just thinkn people can use naturopathic immunization, you have to realize how immunology works on a molecular level. Buy an immunization for dummies book or something.

No one's going to take you seriously until you know what that fuck you're talking about. Until then, you're just some ranting lunatic on a web forum who's trying to convince everyone that the world is flat when it was discovered centuries ago that it's round.

=(

[wum]

Originally Posted by diva

Are you replying to this thread with any real knowledge of your own? Because I can tell you right now that I didn't have to switch windows to look up any fucked up conspiracy theory websites in order to reply to you.

it's a synthesis of my knowledge of history and how racketeering and tyranny works :)

Originally Posted by diva

I glanced at your last post but when I realized that you were into your usual delusions about things like feminism being a tool to decrease the white birth rate, I stopped reading. You're not a rational person when it comes to stuff like this.

let's just say that Gloria Steinem herself has admitted she worked for the CIA... the same CIA that admits they sterilized half of Brazil's women

Originally Posted by diva

I can recognize this trait in you because i'm not a rational person when it comes to a lot of stuff. But seriously, you're growing up. If you do believe so strongly in the things in which you post on this board, become more educated about them. Look beyond the regular sources that you use to learn about this stuff. Find out what your sources use to get their information.

Question: how is it rational that the US is concurrently fighting a 'War on Terrorism', implementing internal checkpoints, the Patriot Act, a color coded flying system, and yet doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to seal its southern border. In fact, they're even criticizing the minuteman project as a bunch of "vigilantes"

Londonistan is admittedly the Western headquarters of expatriate Muslim Jihadists, and is feared as a terror target because of sleeper cells. And yet anyone who calls attention to this is a racist, and these people are protected at all costs by the government

Examine the hypocrisy for a moment. The conspiracy theory is to believe that Western governments are so "tolerant" or stupid as to allow harmful things into society, where it just so happens that everytime shit goes down they have to respond in a manner that requires the liquidation of civil rights and a massive power grab. It's the oldest fucking trick in the book. Hitler burned down his own Reichstag and blamed it on the communists.

Follow the thread of history. Tyranny is the norm. Social engineering is the norm.

Originally Posted by diva

If you're ever going to make people believe in what you have to say, you're going to have to know your subject of interest inside and out. You can't just think pharmaceutical companies operate a certain way, you have to be certain of it. You can't just thinkn people can use naturopathic immunization, you have to realize how immunology works on a molecular level. Buy an immunization for dummies book or something.

I know for a fact that the pharmaceutical companies flex the FDA as a way to curb competition from non-patented drugs.

The same FDA that passed Prozac which they claimed went through the most stringent tests in FDA history. The same Prozac that recent research indicates quadruples the suicide rate. The same Prozac that every mass school shooting, employee going postal, or Andrea Yates drowning her children were on. And no, it's not because the US has more guns. Switzerland has a higher gun ownership per capita but when was the last time you heard of a bunch of emo kids over there blowing away their classmates?

Not only will the FDA collude with big pharma to keep good drugs off the shelves, but they'll pass the most harmful shit at the same time. Is it so hard to believe that megalomaniacal people would not exploit this FDA/Big Pharma government sanctioned illicit drug dealing? Could that be why the latest patriot act tried to get a provision passed that would prevent anyone from suing the large drug company Eli Lilly, which the Bush family has ties with?



Like I said, if you want to immunize your kids, fine. Based on herd immunity it shouldn't matter to the government if a few Christian kids would rather not have it. There is NO REASON to have it legally mandated that EVERYONE be pumped with aborted fetal tissue and mercury. Just listen to that link to see where I'm coming from

Originally Posted by diva

No one's going to take you seriously until you know what that fuck you're talking about. Until then, you're just some ranting lunatic on a web forum who's trying to convince everyone that the world is flat when it was discovered centuries ago that it's round.

=(

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[NinjaBoy]

Wum, lets be frank, your medical knowlage is made up mostly of articles in the back of the province, and links that have been forwarded to your email.

Diva, is a nurse.


Why are you even trying?