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Old Jul 02, 05
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i have to agree with grapes and others, when will the line be drawn?

and i indeed have a family member who is slightly benefiting from medical advances, but in any case, seems iller when he is getting the medication. i have a mom because of medical advances, and i have my dad for now because of medical advances. but still there must be a point where we stop asking "how can we prolong life?"
death is awful, every person experiences loosing the ones they love, but it is a part of life and a part of being human. its terrible, heart wrenching at points, but when it all comes down to it, its the people who survive who experience this suffering of sadness. are we really that selfish to prolong someone elses life because we want them here with us? when is the human race going to accept death?
life should still always feel and be precious. every moment is one that counts, every memory is one to remember. i fully enjoy waking up every morning, even if its 4 am, because i am waking up, and i have another day with the people i love, the things i love and another day of being meghan.

ahhhhhhh but im reaching into this too far. plus like banana's was sayin, this is the very beginning of the research and who really knows when they will actually be able to test it on humans\know the true results and who knows what advances\what things it sould help.
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Old Jul 03, 05
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That is the most sickest thing iv ever herd!!!! MY CREEPY TRIP IS COMING TO LIFE............DAM U DAWN OF THE DEAD!!!!!!
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Old Jul 09, 05
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I'm really skeptical about this for a few reasons.

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as for the ethicality of this procedure.. personally, I don't really see this as any different as performing CPR on someone or putting someone on a mechanical ventilator.

--Joanne :P
The article was out of Popular Science last month touching upon suspended animation and the way some animals can induce it on demand. They were trying to figure a way to replicate those functions, leading to a day *hopefully* where we can put organs and people in a state where deterioration of cells and muscle tissue is stopped or reduced to a fraction of normal; The implications are mindblowing.

They mentioned how many animals can induce a state of 'suspended animation' *ie- nimatodes, frogs, and, to degrees, almost anything that can hibernate. In this state heart rate and metabolism decrease, and protection from hostile elements apparently increases.

It's a pretty interesting article, you should check it out. Popular Science or American Science - one of those magazines.

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Old Jul 09, 05
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this is another step along in bio-development. its technology and theories are established, now methods of implication are being tested. though, this isnt as far along as it sounds... yah they can kill dogs and bring them back later. but that doesnt help people dying of any other cause. they only reason they can be revived is because they were perfectly healthy before then pumped with chemicals to basicly kill the thing. without having the animal intentionaly prepaired for resurection, it wouldnt work.
The sick and disalbled that are going to want to utilize this for its "stasis" possibilitys are going to be dissapointed. only healthy, fully and proporly functioning systems will be able to handle the shock.

amazing advancements into bio-engeneering.... as contraversial as it is, i feel this is where technology is headed. im intruiged as to what this leads to. im impressed by practical implications and breakthroughs into new scientific fields of study.

we as humans will do anything we are capable of. will it go to far? i dont know, no one can, not untill we have tried it.
the more we hinder this the more its being done privately and unsanctioned. this is already apparent in pervois genetic manipulation infractions.
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Old Jul 09, 05
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to consider: despite if you are willing to believe it or not, the concept of human in suspended animation has been strived for and to some exstent achived naturaly. i refur to the mastery of ones self, and control over every aspect of ones own body. the heart can be slowed to neerly undetectable, the biological functions halted, heart rate and breathing weaken as the body requires less O2 and nurishments. a human can willingly slow and mantain his own body to the point of clinical death, for a somewhat limited amount of time. this practice has been refined and upheld by monks origonating from both east Asia, and from the islands of Japan as well..
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Old Jul 09, 05
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The sick and disalbled that are going to want to utilize this for its "stasis" possibilitys are going to be dissapointed. only healthy, fully and proporly functioning systems will be able to handle the shock.
Actually, part of the idea behind suspended animation is to reduce the body's functions down to the minimal in order to halt chemical reactions within the body that cause cell deterioration and sickness.

It's preventing full blown non-recoverable cardiac arrest, not bring ing 2 week corpses out of the ground back to life.

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the more we hinder this the more its being done privately and unsanctioned
It was done at a lab. The fact it was published in a national magazine suggests this experiment followed laws and was done in a lab *at a university, i believe*, not someones basement.

Go read the full blown article or science journal before jumping the gun.
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