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The USA does not control the UN, the UN is the ones running the show. The US is just a tool they use to invade countries like Iraq, Iran and Syria. Once they are done with them, United states is not needed anymore. Same with Nazi Germany, Hitler was just a puppet they used to bring on the UN.
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The USA does not control the UN, the UN is the ones running the show. The US is just a tool they use to invade countries like Iraq, Iran and Syria. Once they are done with them, United states is not needed anymore. Same with Nazi Germany, Hitler was just a puppet they used to bring on the UN.
Wow... just had to quote this.
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The USA does not control the UN, the UN is the ones running the show. The US is just a tool they use to invade countries like Iraq, Iran and Syria. Once they are done with them, United states is not needed anymore. Same with Nazi Germany, Hitler was just a puppet they used to bring on the UN.
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Wow... just had to quote this.
Got nothing to say ??
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Got nothing to say ??
So what you're saying is that Hitler created the UN?
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Hitler was just a puppet of the new world order. Hitler didn't do anything himself. Prescott Bush was helping fund the Nazi party, and continued to supply the Nazi party with materials and weaponry even after the war started.
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we should really focus on a particular topic. My favorite: the War on Errorism:)
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Hitler was just a puppet of the new world order. Hitler didn't do anything himself. Prescott Bush was helping fund the Nazi party, and continued to supply the Nazi party with materials and weaponry even after the war started.
Oaky, so then what you're really saying is that Bush was running the Nazi's?

(well aware of who Prescot was)
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you say secret uberlord illuminati pulling strings in some fortified underground bunker with their , I say the rich desperately trying to hold onto their power and money by any means necessary including overtly or covertly manipulatiing governments.

same shit, different pile
its funny how they say its all the rich and powerful people in the world who are behind the NWO and at the same time one of their ultimate goals is to eliminate property rights? the very property rights which not only secure the wealth of the rich but also allow it to be created.


the whole conspricacy debate is rife with blatant contradictions and is absolutely absurd to anyone who has actually engaged themselves in studying academic theories in the realm of sociology, economics and political science. there are so many more plausible explanations to explain the coincidences and other events which supposedly serve as evidence for the existance of the NWO it just strikes me as ridiculus that people go to such far and logically incoherent lengths to explain events and structures which are so easily explained by something which is far less sinister.

its like NWO therories are for people who are marginally above average intelligence but also suffer from paranoid personality disorder, or just smoke too much dope/drugs...hahaha
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The USA does not control the UN, the UN is the ones running the show. The US is just a tool they use to invade countries like Iraq, Iran and Syria. Once they are done with them, United states is not needed anymore. Same with Nazi Germany, Hitler was just a puppet they used to bring on the UN.
thats funny, i guess you dont understand the political structure of the UN, or realize who actually funds it or equipts it with troops. shit man without U.S involvedment the UN is like one international debate club.

The UN was against the war in Iraq, you know that right? thats why its considered an illegal war. you know that the americans rarely participate in UN actions unless they coincide with their own political/strategic objectives. hell the current regime of neo-cons which control the U>S right now dont even like the UN and regard it as obsolete. You know who John Bolton is right?


you're ignorance is so blatant its amazing

p.s it just astounds me that the people who put forward these NWO stories dont even understand the legal structures/roles/histories/finances/operations/ or stated objectives of the international istitutions they put forward as vehicles for propagation of the NWO. i guess its that lack of understanding which allows them to belkeive the NWO exists.

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thats funny, i guess you dont understand the political structure of the UN, or realize who actually funds it or equipts it with troops. shit man without U.S involvedment the UN is like one international debate club.

The UN was against the war in Iraq, you know that right? thats why its considered an illegal war. you know that the americans rarely participate in UN actions unless they coincide with their own political/strategic objectives. hell the current regime of neo-cons which control the U>S right now dont even like the UN and regard it as obsolete. You know who John Bolton is right?


you're ignorance is so blatant its amazing

p.s it just astounds me that the people who put forward these NWO stories dont even understand the legal structures/roles/histories/finances/operations/ or stated objectives of the international istitutions they put forward as vehicles for propagation of the NWO. i guess its that lack of understanding which allows them to belkeive the NWO exists.
good cop, bad cop.

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good cop, bad cop.

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You right, its inevitable, people do die. But if i gotta fuckin die because of my fuckin goverment id rather die fighting.

Ps. I dont appreciate your racist comment about me being arrogant because i am a wop. I am just trying to help out trying to get my word accross because i care about humanity and this world, and i don't want them winning. The Sheeps are the ones who believe it and think its just inevitable so they do nothing about it, I aint one of em. If thats arrogant, so be it.
hey twat shut up im a fucking guinea too.

DIE FIGHTING FOR WHAT?do you understandd you cant fight this? get it through your thick head bud!
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thats funny, i guess you dont understand the political structure of the UN, or realize who actually funds it or equipts it with troops. shit man without U.S involvedment the UN is like one international debate club.

The UN was against the war in Iraq, you know that right? thats why its considered an illegal war. you know that the americans rarely participate in UN actions unless they coincide with their own political/strategic objectives. hell the current regime of neo-cons which control the U>S right now dont even like the UN and regard it as obsolete. You know who John Bolton is right?


you're ignorance is so blatant its amazing

p.s it just astounds me that the people who put forward these NWO stories dont even understand the legal structures/roles/histories/finances/operations/ or stated objectives of the international istitutions they put forward as vehicles for propagation of the NWO. i guess its that lack of understanding which allows them to belkeive the NWO exists.

I was working on letting him hang himself with the whole UN thing but you did a fine job for him.

Just to be clear (for the NWO conspiracy lot) the UN is not an independent body with it's own motives. It is an international organization with representatives from each country. For sake of clarity maybe you guys should try looking at their web site some time? It actually has a lot of well put together and very useful information.

http://www.un.org/
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oh the benevolent UN:)

The same organization so committed to peace that they have a program to dissarm the citizenry of every sovereign country because we know guns are baaad
letsee, world governing body + dissarming the citizenry... where the fuck have we seen that before??
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oh the benevolent UN:)

The same organization so committed to peace that they have a program to dissarm the citizenry of every sovereign country because we know guns are baaad
letsee, world governing body + dissarming the citizenry... where the fuck have we seen that before??
WOW now I get it, vague statement + vague statement = vague conclusion = you're always right!
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p.s. the U.N. is no more benevolent than the member nations that it is composed of. So in other words it's not benevolent but it is a starting place to create a global dialogue and resolve problems through other means than warfare.
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This is stupid, we are getting nowhere here just by arguing. I just wanna understand something. Senior, just answer a very simple question for me. What part of all this is a conspiracy theory to you, is it the whole New World order. Do u not believe that they wanna establish a New World Order. Or is it you believe that the New World order exists but a one world dicatorship would be good for all of us. I just wanna get ur point of view finally clear to me
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Heres a good site for everyone to educate themselves with, this site has loads of video clips for you to watch


http://www.freepressinternational.com/
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This is stupid, we are getting nowhere here just by arguing. I just wanna understand something. Senior, just answer a very simple question for me. What part of all this is a conspiracy theory to you, is it the whole New World order. Do u not believe that they wanna establish a New World Order. Or is it you believe that the New World order exists but a one world dicatorship would be good for all of us. I just wanna get ur point of view finally clear to me

First off I don't believe at this time that there is a effort to create a NWO via a global dictator.

At this time the EU is slowly moving towards an integrated government but the nation states still retain many independant controls over things such as taxation, police, and the armed forces. What they are harmonzing is controls over such things as the environment, social rights, and economic regulations. Are they trying to take over the World? Not likely...
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p.s. the U.N. is no more benevolent than the member nations that it is composed of. So in other words it's not benevolent but it is a starting place to create a global dialogue and resolve problems through other means than warfare.
how many wars have there been since the formation of the UN again? :)
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Ok thats final then, im gonna respect your opinion. Its not worth me wasting my time with you when i could be talking to people more interested. At least now you know, so when things become more clear you'll realize it then. Im still gonna post new developments on here, but im done arguing with people.
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