NWO Conspiracies, A New Religion?

[wum]

i think the main problem is that most people think that communism/socialism is simply wealth redistribution and have no idea that it was this political insitution that killed over a hundred million people.

it now goes under new names like 'liberal democracy' and retooled to be 10 times worse and people with no sense of history lap it all up.

[wum]

props for trying Franco, but we're already moving into the final phases.

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War Plans Drafted To Counter Terror Attacks in U.S.
Domestic Effort Is Big Shift for Military (my emphasis added)

By Bradley Graham
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, August 8, 2005; Page A01

COLORADO SPRINGS -- The U.S. military has devised its first-ever war plans for guarding against and responding to terrorist attacks in the United States, envisioning 15 potential crisis scenarios and anticipating several simultaneous strikes around the country, according to officers who drafted the plans.

The classified plans, developed here at Northern Command headquarters, outline a variety of possible roles for quick-reaction forces estimated at as many as 3,000 ground troops per attack, a number that could easily grow depending on the extent of the damage and the abilities of civilian response teams.

The possible scenarios range from "low end," relatively modest crowd-control missions to "high-end," full-scale disaster management after catastrophic attacks such as the release of a deadly biological agent or the explosion of a radiological device, several officers said.

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One potentially tricky area, the admiral said, involves National Guard officers who are put in command of task forces that include active-duty as well as Guard units -- an approach first used last year at the Group of Eight summit in Georgia. Guard troops, acting under state control, are exempt from Posse Comitatus prohibitions.

"It could be a challenge for the commander who's a Guardsman, if we end up in a fairly complex, dynamic scenario," Keating said. He cited a potential situation in which Guard units might begin rounding up people while regular forces could not.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...print/asection

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As we know, the various western government are uncanny when comes to self-fulfilling prophecies (Blair said the London attack was 'inevitable').

They need support for the forthcoming invasion of Iran, and something massive to distract us from all the shit going down in the US like CAFTA, illegal immigration, outsourcing, gov't complicity in terrorism, and all that other funny business.

Multiple birds, one atomic stone.

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by Senior

First off I don't believe at this time that there is a effort to create a NWO via a global dictator.

At this time the EU is slowly moving towards an integrated government but the nation states still retain many independant controls over things such as taxation, police, and the armed forces. What they are harmonzing is controls over such things as the environment, social rights, and economic regulations. Are they trying to take over the World? Not likely...

they havent even managed to create a uniform agreement upon social rights, and arguably economic and environmental regulations..notice the rejection of the european constitution by both dutch and french voters.


looks like the closets thing we have to a world givernment is a failure so far.

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by wum

i think the main problem is that most people think that communism/socialism is simply wealth redistribution and have no idea that it was this political insitution that killed over a hundred million people.

it now goes under new names like 'liberal democracy' and retooled to be 10 times worse and people with no sense of history lap it all up.

most people with half a brain recognize it for what it has been in the past

liberal democracy is the antithesis of communism/socialism. liberal democracy means freedom in choice wether in both social and economic realms.

but the question is do you know what economic and social liberialization actually means? it means do what yopu want, almost complete freedom.

p.s there are many different definition of the word liberal, but you're out to lunch when you say were turning into communist/socialist countries, if anyhting the current trend is to move towards the complete opposite.

[Vitamin-X]

Originally Posted by dabbler

the truth is only what you (or someone else) makes it. there really isn't any such thing as 'truth'. it's all just opinions and perspectives. and yours is just as fucked as everyone else's

Our culture basically boils down to one statement:
"There is no such thing as Truth, everything is relative"

To that message I'd have to ask: Is that statement relative?
If it is then it really doesn't mean anything, and if it isn't then it's an
absolute, aka Truth.

[wum]

Originally Posted by SEAN!

most people with half a brain recognize it for what it has been in the past

liberal democracy is the antithesis of communism/socialism. liberal democracy means freedom in choice wether in both social and economic realms.

but the question is do you know what economic and social liberialization actually means? it means do what yopu want, almost complete freedom.

p.s there are many different definition of the word liberal, but you're out to lunch when you say were turning into communist/socialist countries, if anyhting the current trend is to move towards the complete opposite.

what do you call graduated taxes in the order of 60 to 70 percent of one's income?

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by wum

what do you call graduated taxes in the order of 60 to 70 percent of one's income?

progressive taxation(this is a term used by economists, it is not labeled that due to the precieved social benefits that may or may not arise from that form of taxation but rather from the fact that the marginal tax rate gets progressively higher as income increases.)

has nothing to do with wether a country is a liberal democracy or not.


post soviet but pre democratic Ukraine had marginal tax rates of up to 90% it surely was not a liberal democracy.

[wum]

Originally Posted by SEAN!

progressive taxation(this is a term used by economists, it is not labeled that due to the precieved social benefits that may or may not arise from that form of taxation but rather from the fact that the marginal tax rate gets progressively higher as income increases.)

has nothing to do with wether a country is a liberal democracy or not.


post soviet but pre democratic Ukraine had marginal tax rates of up to 90% it surely was not a liberal democracy.

Democracy is the government bribing people with their own money.

Just like socialism, but perhaps even more effective since it had their 'consent'. In any case, the net effect is exactly the same.

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by wum

Democracy is the government bribing people with their own money.

Just like socialism, but perhaps even more effective since it had their 'consent'. In any case, the net effect is exactly the same.

sure.

[wum]

Originally Posted by SEAN!

sure.

:):):)

[L0ungeLizarD]

For all you people that say the iluminati is not conected to the UN......then why is there a satinist church right in the UN headquarters

[Dj Franco]

Originally Posted by L0ungeLizarD

For all you people that say the iluminati is not conected to the UN......then why is there a satinist church right in the UN headquarters

Source ?

[Dj Franco]

Originally Posted by SEAN!

p.s there are many different definition of the word liberal, but you're out to lunch when you say were turning into communist/socialist countries, if anyhting the current trend is to move towards the complete opposite.

[wum]

1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rent to public purpose.

Today, the governments at all levels have "allodial" title to all property and permit those who have paid for those properties to have possession in exchange for a property tax. Owners are actually renters.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.on earnings

Misapplication of the 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913, The Social Security Act of 1936.; Joint House Resolution 192 of 1933; and various State "income" taxes. We call it "paying your fair share".

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance: Limitation of private property through progressive taxation, heavy inheritance taxes, abolition of inheritance through collateral lines (brothers, nephews, etc.) forced loans, etc.

We call it Federal & State estate Tax (1916); or reformed Probate Laws, and limited inheritance via arbitrary inheritance tax statutes.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels against the majority of the people.

We call it government seizures, tax liens, Public "law" 99-570 (1986); Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of "terrorists" and those who speak out or write against the "government" (1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without due process.

5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

We call it the Federal Reserve which is a credit/debt system nationally organized by the Federal Reserve act of 1913. All local banks are members of the Fed system, and are regulated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC). This private bank has an exclusive monopoly in money creation which in reality has ended the need for revenue from taxes. So why do they tax? To FOOL YOU into thinking they need them.

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the State

We call it the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and Department of Transportation (DOT) mandated through the ICC act of 1887, the Commissions Act of 1934, The Interstate Commerce Commission established in 1938, The Federal Aviation Administration, Federal Communications Commission, and Executive orders 11490, 10999, as well as State mandated driver's licenses and Department of Transportation regulations. There is also the postal monopoly, AMTRAK and CONRAIL. Driver's licenses and vehicle licenses control the highways at the state level.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

We call it corporate capacity, The Desert Entry Act and The Department of Agriculture. As well as the Department of Commerce and Labor, Department of Interior, the Environmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Mines, National Park Service, and the IRS control of business through corporate regulations.

8. Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

We call it the Social Security Administration and The Department of Labor. The National debt and inflation caused by the communal bank has caused the need for a two "income" family. Woman in the workplace since the 1920's, the 19th amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, assorted Socialist Unions, affirmative action, the Federal Public Works Program and of course Executive order 11000. And I almost forgot...The Equal Rights Amendment means that women should do all work that men do including the military and since passage it would make women subject to the draft.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.

We call it the Planning Reorganization act of 1949 , zoning (Title 17 1910-1990) and Super Corporate Farms, as well as Executive orders 11647, 11731 (ten regions) and Public "law" 89-136.

10. Education of all children, from the moment they can leave their mother's care, in national establishments at national cost. Education and production together

People are being taxed to support what we call 'public' schools, which train the young to work for the communal debt system. We also call it the Department of Education, the NEA and Outcome Based "Education" . What will be the influence of communist society on the family? It will transform the relations between the sexes into a purely private matter which concerns only the persons involved and into which society has no occasion to intervene. It can do this since it does away with private property and educates children on a communal basis, and in this way removes the two bases of traditional marriage -- the dependence rooted in private property, of the women on the man, and of the children on the parents.

http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%2..._manifesto.htm

[DefJef]

Originally Posted by dabbler

TRUTH doesn't exist. there is no such thing, because it's different for everyone, and anyone can create truth. if enough people believe it, it becomes true.
i vote FnK gives you conspiracy people your own forum for all this crap

^

good idea..

[Dj Franco]

I vote that all fnkers who don't wanna read this stuff not read it or reply. That isn't the case tho, this thread has 90 replys and over 450 views so something must be attracting people to this topic.

[Dj Franco]

Originally Posted by SEAN!

p.s there are many different definition of the word liberal, but you're out to lunch when you say were turning into communist/socialist countries, if anyhting the current trend is to move towards the complete opposite.

All i could do was laugh before, but Sean, your sniffing glue if you think we're going in an opposite direction of communism.

[nwokiller]

I will start by saying its refreshing to see the support for a stance against this global cancer known as the New World Order.



I am here to call on the people here who are unplugged to make this a priority and for those who are flat earthers to wake up and listen, ask questions and stop being slaves.



EVI Management Group looks to impose with ICBC digital tracking license plates this means the end of your liberties and freedoms, the technology to know where your go, how fast you go. I know there will be some who love this idea and that’s cause you have truely been conditioned to be a slave, this wont do for me and many others.



I have contacted Patrick McCleery via email and i have let him know his quest to impose this and make millions at the same time will not go without opposition, he is very awake that the anti-nwo movement is here and going to cause him great problems, we will make noise, we will force the nwo-run media take notice and they will have no choice to cover it.



No matter if you are a criminal or a law biding person this technology is big brother at its worst, all the people that laugh when we talk about the Verichip can choke on their laughter cause now this is in our backyard, this is in Vancouver, not London, Iraq or New York.



Are you willing to hand your human dignity to some rich suits who get off on watching you suffer and be de-humanized, this forum is 0.01% of the way I and others this infowar, so don’t get me wrong i dont sit here all day and chat, i put my words into actions at the same time look for being anonymous.



I know you people aren’t into being scammed and treated like crap so think about this, cause all the dope and E that you do wont make this go away and all the Television and Movies you kill you brain with will only let this take place faster. We do have to power to overcome.



Below is a little background of what is trying to be halted.



http://www.evin.ca


http://www.insurance-canada.ca/consinfoauto/EVI-RFID-plates-503.php



www.infowars.com
www.prisonplanet.com

[wum]

the shit's going down :Serotonin

[L0ungeLizarD]

FTP Fuck the plate

[Dj Franco]

hey Senior, looks like we're out numbering you guys now

[Senior]

Originally Posted by Dj Franco

hey Senior, looks like we're out numbering you guys now

That's possibly because most people don't have the patience to debate people that are as far out to lunch as you guys.

Really though I'd rather not have this sort of crowd on my side...

Originally Posted by L0ungeLizarD

For all you people that say the iluminati is not conected to the UN......then why is there a satinist church right in the UN headquarters

Satinist churches in the UN headquarters, that was founded by the Nazi's and secretly controlled by Prescot Bush...

[Senior]

Originally Posted by nwokiller

I will start by saying its refreshing to see the support for a stance against this global cancer known as the New World Order.



I am here to call on the people here who are unplugged to make this a priority and for those who are flat earthers to wake up and listen, ask questions and stop being slaves.



EVI Management Group looks to impose with ICBC digital tracking license plates this means the end of your liberties and freedoms, the technology to know where your go, how fast you go. I know there will be some who love this idea and that’s cause you have truely been conditioned to be a slave, this wont do for me and many others.



I have contacted Patrick McCleery via email and i have let him know his quest to impose this and make millions at the same time will not go without opposition, he is very awake that the anti-nwo movement is here and going to cause him great problems, we will make noise, we will force the nwo-run media take notice and they will have no choice to cover it.



No matter if you are a criminal or a law biding person this technology is big brother at its worst, all the people that laugh when we talk about the Verichip can choke on their laughter cause now this is in our backyard, this is in Vancouver, not London, Iraq or New York.



Are you willing to hand your human dignity to some rich suits who get off on watching you suffer and be de-humanized, this forum is 0.01% of the way I and others this infowar, so don’t get me wrong i dont sit here all day and chat, i put my words into actions at the same time look for being anonymous.



I know you people aren’t into being scammed and treated like crap so think about this, cause all the dope and E that you do wont make this go away and all the Television and Movies you kill you brain with will only let this take place faster. We do have to power to overcome.



Below is a little background of what is trying to be halted.



http://www.evin.ca


http://www.insurance-canada.ca/consinfoauto/EVI-RFID-plates-503.php



www.infowars.com
www.prisonplanet.com

Have you contacted the BC Civil Liberties Association? Have you considered trying to organize a event around this that isn't some conspiracy orientated circle jerk but an actual genuine community event? Troll or not this is a reasonably well stated argument and I agree with the general premise that such a high level of intrusion is unnecessary, it's also unconstitutional. I'd like to see some concrete evidence that ICBC is actually going ahead with this though (haven't looked at your links yet but will). Believe it or not you guys talk a lot but I've actually gotten my hands dirty over issues like this. Good to see someone actually looking at a real issue, the lizards can wait.

[Senior]

Good for spreading the word on a relevant issue, nutters take notice, but I still didn't see any mention of this actually being officially proposed or even considered. At this point they have a web site... and were mentioned on an industry related web site.


http://www.insurance-canada.ca/consi...nformation.php

[PHUNK]

Originally Posted by 3507321C

is that meg on the left of that photo??