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if you don't consider the political arena to be an academic debate situation, then that shows a fundamental difference between how you and I view politics,
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seems like you are correct. Though i do not doubt there is a time and place for discussion but how is discussing manners anything but peripheral at best in the context of the dire situation, and reactionary and irrelevant at worst?
Angry mob? I think there needs to be an angry mob sometime soon (although the mob that is focussed, directed and understands what they are up against - which i guess defeats the idea of mob?)
I got some more intel on Yves, and in the past he had dumped a bucket of red paint on foreign affairs minister pierre pettigrew? Which, considering that it didnt really amount to any larger plan or goal was reactionary initself. But, i believe(somewhat) that he is part of the reason that the movement exists in the first place, so his "legitemacy" or ability to organize, and be effective should not be questioned yet, lest we waste more precious time.
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This is a civilized country
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Are you going break out into an underarm deoderant commerical a la charles barkley now? :)
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My stripped down point is that our society requires everyone to have enough respect for each other to at least not interrupt someone when they're speaking in public. If you disagree with me there, I suggest that you change your attitude before going into any kind of academic debate situation. Serious thinkers won't take you seriously if you don't have enough respect to let your opponents finish their arguments before you begin a rebuttal.
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These days a large majority of "academics" are too busy spending their royalties on book sales. I would never shit on the need for the likes of the Noam Chomsky's of the world, BUT(and this is where our beliefs diverge) if the government of Canada and thus its rep. Paul Martin is continously lying to us, and carrying out thier agenda, what does civility bring? Do you think after all these years, more academic dick stroking is what we need? The need for research, and knowledge is a GIVEN MINIMUM EXPECTATION, not a grounds for policy for change. I would be stupid not to go for the idea that battles and change could come about in the rooms of philosophers and academics alike, im not out to see more people die! But do you really belive that nothing short of complete revolutionary resistance and subsequent over throw of the government will work? Im all ears, but i have a strange feeling your going to elaborate on things that are currently failing at any contribution to change, besides education, which i believe like i mentioned before, as a responsibility.
Dec 05, 05
