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Old Feb 02, 06
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My religion would be a lower-cost version of the current standards. So people could have more money for stuff while they're here. Like Walmart and Costco - try to give ppl a break.

For this service, I would only ask 5 percent of the people's incomes. This is a real deal in comparison to the going rate which is 10 percent at most other religions. Suggested tithing rate 10 percent is the norm.

However, because my religion costs less, it would offer slightly less service. For example, instead of offering everlasting life in heaven to the good ppl, I would only offer a thousand years. You want more time in heaven, gotta pay a little more. But a thousand years is still good.

The bad people would still be tortured in hell forever. They're probably not paying my religion anything so screw 'em.

Beyond that, haven't firmed up any ideas on how this would all work, and stuff like how many gods this new religion should have and should they be male or female. Probably time to modernize things so yeah, female gods maybe. And good tunes, lasers, in the churches. We would not be opposed to sex, booze & drugs either.
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Old Feb 02, 06
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Yeh but with that premise it could also be said that religion was created as a force of oppression and complacency as it espouses the idea that you need to find truth externally.

Existentialism--while usually being equated with the notion of despai--can actually be a path of self-enpowerment in the sense that the mind is subjective and that you don't need to follow when faith can come from within. Many fringe spiritualities use this idea that God is a part of everything and even from within.
I think your missing my point... Im stating for those that follow religon, if they want to be part of it let them , and obviously you dont see my point of how it gives people hope. Sometimes people dont have anything else in there life but to follow the steps of a "creator" if they want to let them. Maybe it is a force of oppresion but who are we to say anything, I know i cant considering im not religous, and I doubt you are either considering you slammed it. I dont think its in any of us to complain ... and I dont doubt one time in your life when you've looked up in a bad time or even not and said" ok you've got to help me one this one", cause if you have i do believe you are done with this thread and shouldent have even posted anything in the first place.
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Old Feb 03, 06
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I already have my own religion! It's called "Amandaism" (and only Amandas can join - and I have quite a following too)... It only has one rule: you cannot do what you don't want to do... yes, thats it... and it shall take over the world! maw haw haw! :D
omg...amanda, can i change my name????? :p

if i have a religion/way of life...
people would have to take good care of their bodeis, fintess, healthy eating excetera...work hard but still be laid back.
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Old Feb 03, 06
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I think your missing my point... Im stating for those that follow religon, if they want to be part of it let them , and obviously you dont see my point of how it gives people hope. Sometimes people dont have anything else in there life but to follow the steps of a "creator" if they want to let them. Maybe it is a force of oppresion but who are we to say anything, I know i cant considering im not religous, and I doubt you are either considering you slammed it. I dont think its in any of us to complain ... and I dont doubt one time in your life when you've looked up in a bad time or even not and said" ok you've got to help me one this one", cause if you have i do believe you are done with this thread and shouldent have even posted anything in the first place.
Firstly, yes i should have posted something because this is an open forum were people express their opinions.

Key word with my argument: "it could also be said." I'm simply taking a antithetical approach to your argument. Yes some people find hope in religious regimes. I was more speaking of certain modern religions. A religion that force feeds you your ideals in the sense that you have to find salvation through the church and not with a direct relationship with God.

But in no way am i dissing the people who live their lives and follow those practices, finding a source of hope in their faith. Good for them if they want to lead that existance. I just don't agree with this "leap of faith" concept that Soren kierkegaard first coined. I'd rather have a direct relationship with spirituality and to find out for myself what God means to me.

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maybe it is a force of oppresion but who are we to say anything, I know i cant considering im not religous, and I doubt you are either considering you slammed it.
Well if it is a force of oppresion we should say something because it affects society. I'm a collectivist in that sense because i have a disdain for religious interest groups who influence state politics. Christianity and the like are man made faiths in that they have man like qualities: Oppression of women, power hierarchys and corruption. That is what i meant by the oppressive state of modern organized religion.
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Old Feb 03, 06
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Firstly, yes i should have posted something because this is an open forum were people express their opinions.

Key word with my argument: "it could also be said." I'm simply taking a antithetical approach to your argument. Yes some people find hope in religious regimes. I was more speaking of certain modern religions. A religion that force feeds you your ideals in the sense that you have to find salvation through the church and not with a direct relationship with God.

But in no way am i dissing the people who live their lives and follow those practices, finding a source of hope in their faith. Good for them if they want to lead that existance. I just don't agree with this "leap of faith" concept that Soren kierkegaard first coined. I'd rather have a direct relationship with spirituality and to find out for myself what God means to me.



Well if it is a force of oppresion we should say something because it affects society. I'm a collectivist in that sense because i have a disdain for religious interest groups who influence state politics. Christianity and the like are man made faiths in that they have man like qualities: Oppression of women, power hierarchys and corruption. That is what i meant by the oppressive state of modern organized religion.

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Old Feb 03, 06
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omg...amanda, can i change my name????? :p

if i have a religion/way of life...
people would have to take good care of their bodeis, fintess, healthy eating excetera...work hard but still be laid back.

I'm always open for new recruits! Just one little legal name change and VOILA you are now a part of the greatest religion since Christianity! Did ya know that if you start up a religion, you actually get major tax breaks? good in the long run, ya know? lol

(shouldnt be saying this, might ruin my chances when one of my followers stumbles on this incriminating evidence.... kinda like what happened to scientology :D)
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