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A couple of weeks ago? Perhaps it was the Immigration rights rally (saturday may 27, in the afternoon, with a long march down robson?) I was running around snapping pictures all day. Its nice to have a camera again. The event was organized by the STATUS coallition (stopwar, haiti solidarity bc, no one is illegal, the ndp....) It went off fairly well, and strong connections where built, and lots of conversations were had. Hopefully we'll bmp into eachother soon. pc.ez shak |
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By "radical islam," i mean the people who feel oppressed by the US unilateral efforts in the post-cold war era. US and Russian funded proxy wars that tore apart the region left, obviously, contentious feelings. US in Iraq/Iran and Russia in Afghanistan. Invading Iraq was the last catalyst into creating the view that Islam was under attack by Western nations. Now you have kids, such as in this article above, taking up arms. Possibly disillusioned in there own lives, compacted by the news and events in the world = mainstream radical islam. Radical because they feel the need to protect their religion in such ways. Mainstream because it seems to be proliferating amoungst the young suburban youth. Now if i was using this as an umbrella term then i can see how you could draw links between my statement and the xenophobic arm of the neocon media complex. No we are not going to argue semantics on the terms. No i am not calling islam radical. |
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I totally hear you bro, so theres no need to clarify. But heres my reasoning on why Im so sensitive to the terminology: Using "Radical Islam" in any fashion, or context is reactionary. Just because you or I understand the significant differences amongst what are truth and what is propaganda (for the purpose of breeding anti-middle eastern/muslim sentiment), doesn’t mean that other people won’t take such phrases and run with them. I don’t disagree that there are individuals/groups out there undertaking atrocious acts,in such a state of desperation as a result of what they're respective nations have gone through because of Western Imperialism/Capitalism,and never have. BUT, in the context that we currently face, we can talk about semantics all we want, but language becomes ultimately far more important. The phrase "Radical Islam" had/has a specific, and definitive purpose, that has been enacted long before your use of the phrase. "Radical Islam" relates to the idea of "Good Muslim vs. Bad Muslim" It dissolves the barriers between a political manifestation of a religion and a cultural one. It attaches violent or reactive action to specific theology. With saying this (and Im sure you already understand) people need to really understand the significant difference between: >A nation/group/individual reacting violently to a history of oppression and congruently holding rigidly onto a faith as a result of having no significant morale left. and >A specific theology dictating that a nation/group/individual react violently. There is NO Radical theology in Islam, there is only radical personal interpretations of Islam. But the fusion of these two, as remarked earlier, was a process undertaken by western national administrations and their mainstream media as a means to symbolize/demonize what essentially were reactions to western imperialism/capitalism to gain the support of western populations. As a product of this manipulation, domestic populations of middle eastern/Muslim peoples felt the backlash. National administration or the mainstream media has not countered this, because what is demonized on the home front, is amplified in foreign territory thus perhaps strengthening the public support of current war+occupation. PRIME EXAMPLE: Canada in Afghanistan Racism is born of a Ruling/Capitalist class injecting synthetic anti-ethnic sentiment into a population as a means of scapgoating/alienation or islolation as a means to garner support for a specific action. The racist ideaology behind the phrase "Radical Islam" is the means to deflect the true nature of imperialist endevours onto a human face. In this point in time, that human face, is brown,belongs to adult males in there mid twenties, and practise the teachings if Islam. ps. How is Italy treating you? Rome? Verona? Trieste? Why are you there? Travel? Studies? Partying? All of the above? Whats the general vibe of people over there in terms of what is going on in the middle east, latin america, africa etc etc? pc.ez shak |
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"There is NO Radical theology in Islam, there is only radical personal interpretations of Islam."
Glad we are in agreance then heh. Ok i wrote out a big reply but the f'in fnk timed me out so it got erased when attempting to post. I'll make this brief Roma is beautiful. It's daunting to stand at the base of Constantine's statue, considering all that happened during his reign. The Italians are very involved in their political system. Italia just moved back from a single member plurality to a stv type system. It's amazing how many parties they have. In Prodi's centre-left coalition, there is everything from pro-catholic parties to a communista party. My buddie's girlfriend is italian and studying journalism. She is far leftist and so are her friends. During the recent civic election in Roma they had big vans driving around with music and megaphones as well as teenagers handing out pamplets. Greenpeace is all over the piazza i goto school. All week mon-fri. I meet all types of people from all denominations. I met this one dude who was in the Isreali army for 5 years and even did time in Lebannon. According to him there never was a palestinian homeland. It's definately interesting hearing everyones belief system and point of view. |
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Agreed, I see where your coming from. I think the word alleged is used primarily as a guarding term for the press. It allows them to point fingers without fully comitting to a stance since everyone is suppose to be innocent until proven guilty.
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