Go Back   FormKaos: Board > General Discussion > Coffee Lounge
FAQ Community Arcade Today's Posts Search

Coffee Lounge Talk amongst other community members.

Reply
 
LinkBack Topic Tools Rate Topic
  #26 (permalink)  
Old Jul 09, 06
semblence within chaos.
 
Join Date: May 2003
decypher is a jewel in the roughdecypher is a jewel in the roughdecypher is a jewel in the roughdecypher is a jewel in the roughdecypher is a jewel in the rough
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ Ponz
Sovereignty will become less and less relevant as traditional notions of nation-state and other conceptual divides are stripped back in the face of an interconnected, globalized world. Thinking about this purely in economic terms is myopic.

Cosmopolitanism, my friends, is where we're going. And I think its our only hope.
I like to entertain the notion of the universality of human rights, but is that really where we are going? I don't know if the power politics of neorealism would allow it without a bloody struggle.

-Look how the US justice department memo's justified torture. How people can be abducted as "unlawful combatants."

-Russian legislation usurping the power and independance of NGO's within their territorys.

-China's stance of the state before the individual.

Mind you i'm not supporter neorealists but this is how states act in order to protect their self-interests.

"cosmopolitanism," economically, struggles as well. Look at the DOHA round, of which set out to make "fair trade" for developing countries. The difficulty is there trying to get nations to bridge that divide in the political economy, between the periphery and the wealthy.

The difficulty in a humanitarian sense i have already outlined above.

I'm a strong believer in this universality humanitarian rights, but how it can be enforced and implimented effectively remains to be seen.

The international norm has been set already, that the sovereignty and security of a state can be used as an argument justifying torture and nuclear weapons etc etc. The first step is rolling back that norm that the US set. It probably put us back about 50 years.
Reply With Quote
  #27 (permalink)  
Old Jul 09, 06
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
fable is an unknown quantity at this point
Quote:
Originally Posted by decypher
I like to entertain the notion of the universality of human rights, but is that really where we are going? I don't know if the power politics of neorealism
not another "neo...!!!!!" This prefix needs to be stricken from the human vocabulary alongside "terrorist" and "insurgent" While we are at it, lets erase "global village" too!
Reply With Quote
  #28 (permalink)  
Old Jul 09, 06
semblence within chaos.
 
Join Date: May 2003
decypher is a jewel in the roughdecypher is a jewel in the roughdecypher is a jewel in the roughdecypher is a jewel in the roughdecypher is a jewel in the rough
lol well it's the only way i know how to differ traditional realism from the new internationally centered form.
Reply With Quote
  #29 (permalink)  
Old Jul 09, 06
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
fable is an unknown quantity at this point
Quote:
Originally Posted by decypher
lol well it's the only way i know how to differ traditional realism from the new internationally centered form.
hehe, I understand mate :)
Reply With Quote
  #30 (permalink)  
Old Jul 09, 06
13:33
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
djmarkpaul will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by fable
Call me crazy, but I equate making a point with making a relevent statement. The statement I was refering to, was not.
But you see fable...that would imply he would not be hung-up in taking a general comment in my post personally....which is obviously more important than the subject matter.

blah blah blah
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:58 PM.


Forum software by vBulletin
Circa 2000 FNK.CA