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Old Jun 18, 07
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Danish documentary on remix culture and copyright, available as a free download. The film skips around the world, showing the changing attitudes toward art and culture in Nigeria, Sweden, Brazil, the UK, and the US, answering statements about incentives and creativity by the MPAA and IFPI by showing us real artists (like Danger Mouse and Girl Talk) making wonderful art that, according to the gangsters in the entertainment industry, no one will make without copyright.
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im all for people using samples to spark off ideas and create somthing new.

that is wonderful.

but relying on another persons pre-existing creation to heavily will stunt musical and personal artistic growth...

what is danger mouse if you strip away the beatles music>?...

...just another dime a dozen,mpc banging,generic pre-set sounding bedroom producer?....
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Sampling is part of a lot of musical genres' culture. Mixtapes relied heavily on using other people's instrumentals and then overlay whatever the artist had to say. It was about message before means [not everyone could build their own studio and computers weren't around that much] If I hear something I think will add to my track somehow [vox, synths, beats etc] I want to be able to sample it and give credit for it [yes, I do believe using without crediting is theft because you're trying to pass it off as your own] but not have to worry to no end for getting licenses and appeasing the MAFIAA. A sample is not about relying upon other people's works necessarily - sometimes it's about grabbing a relatively well-known vox element and adding it to the track to give some "old-meets-new" feeling [i.e. Wu Tang Clan - Can It Be All So Simple]

But sampling, remixing and mash-ups are three different things. A remix artist does rely to a certain extent on other's works. That's why I always tell people to listen to the originals first. Sometimes it's a name game. You have X track remixed by Tiesto - everybody's gonna jump on it and say it's awesome. I hate that credit rarely goes to the original artist after that and people don't care who the song's by.

Mash-ups are kind of cool to listen to sometimes just because they're not always easy to pull off, but that's more a technique game than a creative work. Depends how involved the mash-up is [I would like to see 5 or 10 songs mashed up nicely into a 4 minute piece] and how the songs are chosen.
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