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Jun 06, 07
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TT1650's and DXM06? BAD OR GOOD TO LEARN ON?
TT1650's and DXM06.. all bought brand new in september of 05. Turntalbes only used for a month FOR 500$
is this good or bad to learn on? 
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Jun 06, 07
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For 500 its a good deal.
And anything (well, almost anything) is good to learn on. It will teach you the basics and youll get how to do it all. You can always upgrade later on. Or dont get them and save up for Tech's.
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Jun 06, 07
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the price I guess you can say is somewhat alright... can maybe bring it down to 400. Those tables are certainly not the best... if your looking to do scratching then you can totally forget about it because you'll kill the motor on that thing in no time.
But like anything if your going to be spending your money spend it wisely. The question you have to ask yourself is "do I really wanna spin?" or just try it out.... if your serious about mixing and stuff invest into something thats alot better.
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Jun 06, 07
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i learned how to spin 10 years ago when i first got into the rave scene. i just wanted decks for me to learn on at home and eff around on. although i do want to learn how to scratch cause ill be focused on hiphop and breaks mostly. but i think its a good deal for a first pair. and they are coming from a friend aswell so i know they arent all ruined=)
i just wanted to get a second opinion before hand was all. so that i knew what to expect:)
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Jun 06, 07
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ok but if you want to learn to scratch then its not a good idea to use these turntables for the simple fact that the motor is not strong enough to hold the abuse . You would literally kill the motor on these things in no time, whether if it go's dead or if it can't hold a rpm anymore or drifts on its own and you certainly don't need that.
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Jun 06, 07
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yeah i want to learn to scratch, its what i want to do mostly. meh
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Jun 06, 07
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Tiff... I've got the same Tables here.
If you're just getting back into the swing of mixing, they'll do the job. Scratching, I wouldn't recommend as the torque is kind of lacking in that regard. The DXM-06 is a good mixer for beginning as well. I'm considering picking one of those up myself. Although you're not really going to need the FX if you're just learning scratching etc.
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Jun 06, 07
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i know i need some tec's for scratching:( i just dont know where to get some 4 reasonable price. i dont have tones of coin to spend on em yet but wanted to get going on it. bleh. as for the mixer it might not be available now
Last edited by t-skywalker; Jun 06, 07 at 10:03 PM.
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Jun 06, 07
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You can check on craigslist. I've seen them going for about $600 - $750 for a pair of them.
I'm personally just going to upgrade my Mixer in the next few weeks and keep the TT-1650s for now. Once you can mix on shitty decks with no torque, Techs are a breeze.
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Jun 06, 07
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this is what i have herd lol. but i mostly want to be scratching and spinning hiphop, so im not so sure the decks are going to be good for now. which is why i asked on here:) thanks for the advice so far
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Jun 07, 07
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You don't need tech 12's for scratching. You need turntables that have a strong motor and has great torque to it especially if you want to do "scratching". To give you an example I owned the numark tt500's... the motor and torque is as strong if not stronger then the tech's. Scratching on them is a charm because the motor is strong enough to take the abuse. Infact I saw a used tt500 on craigs list going for 200 and another one going for 300 (although you can get them brand new for 399) . Whats nice about them is that you can change the tone arm from a straight tone arm to an s tone arm. A straight tone arm would be more ideal for scratching as it appears to be more responsive and reduces wear on both the stylus and the vinyl. There is no doubt that Technic's are #1 when it comes down to the turntable industry. They've been using the same technology for over 25 years... maybe even more at this point.... They are truely built like tanks, but it doesn't necessarily mean that you need to have them.
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Jun 07, 07
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GET TECHS BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO UPGRADE TO THEM LATER ANYWAYS SO INVESTING THAT LITTLE EXTRA RIGHT NOW WILL SAVE YOU MONEY IN THE FUTURE
PS. THE FADER ON THAT MIXER SUCKS SO HAVE FUN SCRATCHING WITH IT PPS. FUCK NUMARK ANYTHING
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Jun 07, 07
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LOL U R SMRT
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Jun 07, 07
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Jun 07, 07
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Jun 07, 07
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ACTUALLY BOLD IS WRONG
THE REASON WHY STRAIGHT TONE ARMS ARE BETTER FOR SCRATCHING IS THAT THEY'RE DESIGNED TO "DIG" DEEPER INTO THE VINYL SINCE ITS NOT ANGLED. MEANING MORE WEAR ON YOUR VINYL AND MORE WEAR ON YOUR STYLUS THE NEWER NUMARKS DO HAVE A HIGHER TORQUE THAN TECHS BUT NUMARK TABLES ARE DEFINITELY HIT-AND-MISS WHEN IT COMES TO THE TEST OF TIME. MY TTX'S FOR EXAMPLE ARE STARTING TO GIVE AFTER ONLY HAVING THEM FOR 4 YEARS. IT MAY SEEM LIKE A LONG TIME BUT COMPARE THAT TO A PAIR OF TECHS THAT STILL WORK PERFECTLY AFTER 20 YEARS YOUR WELCOME
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Jun 07, 07
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my dear, invest into tech12s. you can find a dj a week trying to get rid of a mk2 or a pair of them every other week as they upgrade or quit. It cost a little more right now, but it's worth it down the road.
I got a dusty mixer that you can borrow until you get a new one if the DXM06 is no longer available. But I've used the DXM06 for a couple of months. The effects console is fun to play with for a little while and the cross fader definitely ain't great. It's nice to have kill switches but totally un-necessary and the pre-cue fader is clutch for a low end mixer and a novice dj. But since you'll need more money later for vinyl, the numark is an economic mixer to start with if you're buying it all as a package.
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Jun 07, 07
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thanks guys. i guess tecs it is for scratching=) now to find some lol
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Jun 07, 07
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i'm hoping you read what b0ld was saying
In my opinion (not caring to argue) tech's only have the years of reliability behind them (probably because they had the direct drive patent for so long). prepare to keep a light hand when using techs.. not that it's a bad thing.
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Jun 07, 07
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i just want to scratch. im listening to everything everyone has typed and i appreciate it:) thanks guys again
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Jul 02, 07
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vestax i have heard are the cream of the crop for scratching, but then again, ultimatly, if you wanna play for more then just yourself, in the club/rave/general event, do you really want to own something that you will never use outside your house?
or would you rather have the exact same feel that you are used of all of the time. thats why i sold my ttx's, they are good, REALLY GOOD... too good actually, so i got good on them and played out and sucked because i wasnt used of the feel of a tech... but then you get some experience and then you can play on everything and anything. hope that helps your decision a little bit
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Jul 06, 07
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You can scratch (and even juggle) on most direct drive decks, even if they're ghetto like low end Numarks or Geminis. The trick is to cut out a record-sized circle out of an old school record sleeve and put it under your slipmat. (you know, those really thin plastic ones that your Mom's records came in, and bunch up when you try to put the record back into the cardboard sleeve) This dramatically reduces friction, and with some practice, you'll be able to work it like a pro. (IMO it improves your scratching. Since ghetto decks usually have poor tracking, you'll have to train yourself to have a very light hand, which will help in the long run).
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Jul 16, 07
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For mixing, the TT650s are cool. For scratching.... HELL NAW!
Some other decks to consider could be.... Numark TT-500 Stanton ST-150/STR8-150 (I own one of these and they are REALLY GOOD. Next to the Techs, these are probably one of the best options) Stanton T120/T120C American Audio HTD 4.5 (If you can find one) [FYI: All the tables above are actually manufactured in the same factory] Vestax PDX-2000mkII If you are really strapped for cash, then look into either a: Numark TT-200 Or even a Gemini TT-04. Now before someone flames Gemini for making crappy products (mind you they did, but also in fairness they did have a few gems), it is actually a really good table for the money. In an issue of Scratch I read, Roc Raida did a comparison with the Numark TTX, Stanton T120, and the Gemini TT-04. HE ACTUALLY CHOSE THE GEMINI! So yeah... take your pic. Oh yeah... you can also check out Ebay to get some tables if you wanted too.
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