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  #101 (permalink)  
Old Oct 19, 04
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Originally Posted by ~*goddessa*~
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And why do we see it? Lack of funding. Dont knock someone whos on drugs,knock the government for cutting back funding and using our hard earned tax dollars to line thier pockets.


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Now that was ignorant. Knock the government for lack of funding? What colour is the sky in your world? You want them to use our hard earned tax dollars to take the needle out of some junkies hand? The government didn't force anybody to do drugs...

That was one of the dumbest things i've ever read on this board.
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Old Oct 19, 04
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^do you know how hard it is to secure a bed in a drug treatment center?
It took me about 7 months of sitting on a waiting list WITH A COURT ORDER in order to get into a juvenile drug treatment center when i was 14...so that would have been 1998...I can only imagine what its like for adults now seeing as tho how much the government has cut back thier funding in medical,welfare,etc etc etc etc.

I didnt say the government forced anyone to drugs.
I implied that the government is filled with a bunch of crooked bastards that could really care less about the welfare of people who are living on the poverty line or below it.

and if what I say is not true then care to explain to me how these cut backs the government has made...mainly affecting those less fortunate...wanna tell me EXACTLY HOW these cutbacks are helping those people????
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Old Oct 19, 04
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and for the record yes...id rather see my taxes go towards helping someone out as opposed to hurting people more.
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Old Oct 19, 04
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Now that was ignorant. Knock the government for lack of funding? What colour is the sky in your world? You want them to use our hard earned tax dollars to take the needle out of some junkies hand? The government didn't force anybody to do drugs...

That was one of the dumbest things i've ever read on this board.
props buddy.. i think that was the dumbest things ive ever read from her fingure tips lol
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Old Oct 19, 04
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and for the record yes...id rather see my taxes go towards helping someone out as opposed to hurting people more.

you know what id rather see............my taxe money goin to help familys who need it.. not some fucktard who cant stop them self from doin drugs...what the fuck ya lets waste my hard earned money on some one whos just gonna go fuck them self up after the treatmeant cuz they found an exscuse to fuck them self up again....

i would rather see my money go to a single mother who wants to get help who wants to get outta the shit hole they live in so you know what FUCK YOU DRUGYS WHO CANT THINK!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Oct 19, 04
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uhh yeah.. im not going to take on three guys and one of them carrying a knife.

the odds were stacked against me.. so i backed out.


call me a pussy if you must... i dont care.. i like the compliment.
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From what i was told you were talking shit about my friends buddy who died not to long ago so you would deserve to get beat.

he's LUCKY there was only 3 and one knife involved.
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Old Oct 19, 04
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Marty is fucked either way ...
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Old Oct 20, 04
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you know what id rather see............my taxe money goin to help familys who need it.. not some fucktard who cant stop them self from doin drugs...what the fuck ya lets waste my hard earned money on some one whos just gonna go fuck them self up after the treatmeant cuz they found an exscuse to fuck them self up again....

i would rather see my money go to a single mother who wants to get help who wants to get outta the shit hole they live in so you know what FUCK YOU DRUGYS WHO CANT THINK!!!!!!!!!!
id like to see my money go there too. As well as to healthcare,and other social causes. But its not.
Which is a shame.

The thing you need to udnerstand is that,either way our tax dollars are being spent. If not to rehabilitate someone,but to persecute someone for thieving or what have you to support thier drug habits.

I think itd leave a better taste in my mouth knowing that my tax dollars are being "wasted" on trying to rehablitate someone as opposed to convicting someone of a crime that they did only in order to feed thier drug addicition further.

so yeah.
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Old Oct 20, 04
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way too many single mothers nowadays. What do you guys think the root cause is?
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Old Oct 20, 04
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Its because Marty is getting them all pregnant!

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way too many single mothers nowadays. What do you guys think the root cause is?
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Old Oct 21, 04
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way too many single mothers nowadays. What do you guys think the root cause is?
The root cause varies from girl to girl.Itd be ignorant to identify one issue and then go even further to generalize and say that "this is the problem for every young woman who gets knocked up".

You just dont do that.
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Old Oct 21, 04
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Well it's not so much a case of the government spending less of our tax dollars on problems like this. If you look at what COPE is doing on the DT Eastside with the 4 pillars approach millions are being invested to try and deal with issues in a pragmatic, compassionate way. The actual problem is that the B.C. Liberals are f**king nut jobs that have been let out of the mental hospital and given control of our government. They have closed down everything from the B.C. Human Rights commision to Women's Centre's around the Province. All the while going on about how great their policies are for the ecconomy. Mean while our unemployment rates and growth are still dismal while we have seen our provincial debt sky rocket under consecutive record defficits.

Oh well we only have to stick it out till April and these guys will be gone.

As for Surrey, it's got problems but so does everywhere.

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id like to see my money go there too. As well as to healthcare,and other social causes. But its not.
Which is a shame.

The thing you need to udnerstand is that,either way our tax dollars are being spent. If not to rehabilitate someone,but to persecute someone for thieving or what have you to support thier drug habits.

I think itd leave a better taste in my mouth knowing that my tax dollars are being "wasted" on trying to rehablitate someone as opposed to convicting someone of a crime that they did only in order to feed thier drug addicition further.

so yeah.
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Old Oct 21, 04
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^I couldnt agree with you more.

thats what i was trying to say just wasnt ale to articulate my thoughts as well.
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Old Oct 21, 04
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haha since when was new west any better
Since always?
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Old Oct 21, 04
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^do you know how hard it is to secure a bed in a drug treatment center?
It took me about 7 months of sitting on a waiting list WITH A COURT ORDER in order to get into a juvenile drug treatment center when i was 14...so that would have been 1998...I can only imagine what its like for adults now seeing as tho how much the government has cut back thier funding in medical,welfare,etc etc etc etc.
You're the one who decided to do the drugs in the first place.
Blame yourself for being young and stupid, blame your parents for not kicking your ass, or teaching/scaring you enough in the first place so you'd never do drugs.

Yeah, it's sad to see drug addicts, but it all comes down to their CHOICES. You have to be responsible for that which you choose to do!

It's a lose/lose situation with government cutbacks and taxes.
People fucking bitch when they raise taxes, people fucking bitch when they make cutbacks. The thing that people don't seem to take into consideration is less taxes = cutbacks, period.
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Old Oct 21, 04
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The root cause varies from girl to girl.Itd be ignorant to identify one issue and then go even further to generalize and say that "this is the problem for every young woman who gets knocked up".

You just dont do that.
Yes, but you can't deny that it's a new trend. I ride the trains everyday and I see at least one or two teenage mothers to and fro school. Something definately changed in the last generation. Like the end of shame or something.

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Old Oct 21, 04
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Yes, but you can't deny that it's a new trend. I ride the trains everyday and I see at least one or two teenage mothers to and fro school. Something definately changed in the last generation. Like the end of shame or something.
ABORTIONS FOR ALL.
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Old Oct 21, 04
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Old Oct 21, 04
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Yes, but you can't deny that it's a new trend. I ride the trains everyday and I see at least one or two teenage mothers to and fro school. Something definately changed in the last generation. Like the end of shame or something.
First of all teenage pregnancy isnt a new trend. Its been happening since the dawn of time. Look back to like the 1400`s,1500`s,1600`s etc etc etc etc,can we say child brides?!Yeah we can :)
Why be shameful of being young and pregnant?I dont see why someone should be ashamed of getting pregnant.
What you need to realize is that it takes alot of fucking balls to have a child,at any age.
So instead of belittling these young women,we should show appreciation and acceptance for thier strength and courage.

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You're the one who decided to do the drugs in the first place.
Blame yourself for being young and stupid, blame your parents for not kicking your ass, or teaching/scaring you enough in the first place so you'd never do drugs.
Thats a huge misconception and a super moronic generalization.
I come from a european family. My mother is French/Catholic,my father is Italian/Catholic FOB!
I got my ass kicked on a daily basis,its the european way.
So,yeah they kicked my ass and they kicked it good,they taught me they scared me did the whole tough love thing but I said IM GOING TO DO WHAT IM GOING TO DO SO FUCK YOU.
So they got tired of beating me to a pulp,locking me up,sending me away yadda yadda yadda,and said hey...live and let live.

And thats exactly what I did.
And Im glad thats how things happened.

I wasnt young and stupid,I was young and curious.
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Old Oct 21, 04
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It's allllll Surrey from up here.
That's a fucking great comment......so stealing that.
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Old Oct 21, 04
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First of all teenage pregnancy isnt a new trend. Its been happening since the dawn of time. Look back to like the 1400`s,1500`s,1600`s etc etc etc etc,can we say child brides?!Yeah we can :)
Why be shameful of being young and pregnant?I dont see why someone should be ashamed of getting pregnant.
What you need to realize is that it takes alot of fucking balls to have a child,at any age.
So instead of belittling these young women,we should show appreciation and acceptance for thier strength and courage.
Small correction, young unwed mothers who aren't exactly ideal for raising a family. And don't think I don't appreciate mothers, I do, but we're gonna have a whole underclass of people who have never had fathers and I think that manifests itself in all kinds of negative ways, i.e. promiscuous daughters, undisciplined sons, etc.

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Old Oct 21, 04
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Small correction, young unwed mothers who aren't exactly ideal for raising a family. And don't think I don't appreciate mothers, I do, but we're gonna have a whole underclass of people who have never had fathers and I think that manifests itself in all kinds of negative ways, i.e. promiscuous daughters, undisciplined sons, etc.

and why arent they exactly ideal? because U think so?...

they could've easily decided to give the kid up for adoption or had an abortion.. for them to keep the baby means their ready for the responsibility.. and take action and face their consequences... how do u kno their not ideal?.. do u stay w/ them 24/7..? do u clean their diapers..? do u feed them..? do u goto school AND raise a child..? no!

maybe in society's eye their not ideal.. but who is to judge..?

my mom's cousin in brazil is about 10 yrs older then his wife... he got married to her at i think she was 15 or they were engaged.. and she had twins at 16/17.. its north america's society that condone's such 'underage parents'.

and who r u to say that they dont have fathers..? maybe SOME don't.. but u dunno wut goes on in their lives.. u dunno shit all.. so close ur mouth and stop being ignorent.

cuz honestly.. ur sounding like an ignorent moron.
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Old Oct 21, 04
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Small correction, young unwed mothers who aren't exactly ideal for raising a family. And don't think I don't appreciate mothers, I do, but we're gonna have a whole underclass of people who have never had fathers and I think that manifests itself in all kinds of negative ways, i.e. promiscuous daughters, undisciplined sons, etc.
Thumper:

I have met many many children/teenagers/adults who have come from these ideal families. Many of which had babies, abortions, eating disorders, personality disorders, even full blown drug addictions before they finished highschool. Many of these kid's families were just not very happy at all. These families are portrayed by society as being our "social" role models. There's a reason why they're so perfect: they can hide many imperfections beneath their perfect surface, behind a legal marriage and wed-lock children. They have problems too! You'll just never hear them!! This is a clear representation of how "truth" is being filtered by television, books, religion, psychology/reality shows that cater to the "traditional" ways of living.
All these images and stories about out of control kids, being raised by un-wed single mothers, fathered by sleazy and astray husbands, in the slums of the social "underclass"..... is so completely unfair. Things can happen in any family. It doesn't matter what background you come from. We ALL have problems. Look at the divorce rate! People are realising they CAN have a HAPPY and LOVING family, without depending on someone for any help. People should live the way they want to live, and they don't need people forecasting the way their family *will* turn out.
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Old Oct 22, 04
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THANK YOU LADIES!!!!

saved me a whole lot of typing.

Thumper basically youre a fucking moron and I seriously think you should keep youre mouth shut in regards to subjects like this from here on out.:)

just a lil word of advice guy.

*edit*

you must spread some karma around before giving it to ms.chop again.
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Old Oct 22, 04
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maybe in society's eye their not ideal.. but who is to judge..?

my mom's cousin in brazil is about 10 yrs older then his wife... he got married to her at i think she was 15 or they were engaged.. and she had twins at 16/17.. its north america's society that condone's such 'underage parents'.

I still want to cry when I read that.

But hey, if she's happy then great. Being a teenager w/ no real worries wasn't that fun anyways.

Ps. It's not just North America that feels that way.
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