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Oct 25, 03
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! Scratch
they say if you give up everything, and practice scratching for a full year day in and day out, you could possibly be one of the best. atleast, that's what i got from watching DJ QBert's DVD entitled Scratch. I was chilling with Omega and my buddy devin watching it, and not only am i newly inspired to become some sort of talented dj, but i am now more aware of how hip hop originated. it briefly covers graffiti, breaking, digging, beatboxing, beat juggling, mixing. it covers many crazy ass biblical dj's such as mix master mike, qbert, the beat junkies and even swamp (whom will be spinning at Spooky 8 on halloween - don't miss out).
I think one of the most memorable sequences in the dvd was when one of the female turntablists explained how everyone can vibe to hip hop in their own way, whether it's dancing around giving it all you got, or just standing there examining and picking apart each scratch and flare presented by the dj. both are equally into it, everyone can appreciate music in their own way, and that's what it's all about. It's time to practice twice as long and three times as hard every day; because you gotta pay your dues to be the best. your thoughts? Last edited by Mr Ektion; Oct 25, 03 at 08:55 AM. 
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Oct 25, 03
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qbert's coming here... i'll let u kno the info if u wanna go.. hmmm i should chek out that video... so are u practicin? oh yea n howz ion goin...? i have a lot of makeup pix now in my portfolio.... uh whut else... oh yea will u have yer cel at spooky so i can text n meet up...
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Oct 25, 03
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oh yea werd. happy belated bday... we got the same bday hehe
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Oct 25, 03
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You also need to have talent.
If all i did was scratch for a year, i'd probably go crazy. You have to remember. people like qbert, and mixmaster mike ARE in fact nutso. you have to lose your sanity a bit to get to their level. if you want to learn more about hip hop go to oldschoolhiphop.com. thats where i learned most of my stuff. sounds like your passionate like me about it though. saturday theres a free 2 hour scratch clinic downtown at long and mcquade. also you should check out the scratch movie tour coming here real soon. good to see more scratchers on the board.
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Oct 25, 03
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werd up, i hear qbert is going to be at the cave. that's craziness. i'm there fo sho! thanks angela! you can definately call my celly at spooky and i'll do what i can to hook you up. happy b-day too!!!! we should talk AFTER spooky about anything to do with ION (although thigns are going extremely well- the nov. issue comes in by spooky 8!! [more reason to go!!!])
wiggles, fo sho! they're nuts! all talking about aliens and spiritual mundi and crazy stuff like that. thanks for the tip on long and mcquade. what time is it at, i'm definately going to check that shit out. i've been spinning breaks for the past 3 months, and it just doesn't get funky and deep enough for me to feel confident enough to play out. i just wish i could afford to buy more records. now to add in scratching and beat juggling. i want to involve hip hop influence into my set and back into raves (and i mean underground hip hop- AND I MEAN battles, that go from 1AM to however late it takes) none of this clubber - 'it's your birthday' type of hip hop. but like, a room that starts off with funky old school breakz, moves into turntablism, and back into those funky ass old-school breaks (in addition to our florida & euro breakz - which definately has an influence of hip hop, but attracts different music appreciators) GOD, i've been to like, 3 of those types of parties, and i want MORE!!!! even if i have to throw the god damned thing myself, I WANT HIP HOP. and it HAS TO BE DONE RIGHT.
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Oct 25, 03
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Scratchng is fuckin hard shit to pull off, i'm in the process of learning. i've been beatboxing since i was like 5 anbd it in compariason is fuckin easy (as long as you have the right vocal chords for it, some people are physically incapable of making half the sounds i make). props to anyone who can pull scratching off and making it sound TIIIGHT (Q-bert, Mixmaster mike, Swamp, Jamaster Jay, all the old-skool breakers)
PACE!
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Oct 25, 03
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This shit was fucking pimp, my eyes were glued to the tv the entire time, or maybe is was just the glaze effect from the weed lol. all i can say is if ur into hiphop at all, watch this movie. and if ur a dj prepare to be inspired. definately a must see in my books.
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Oct 25, 03
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Ha ha...buddy you think like i think.
i agree with you about spicing it up with turntablism. it makes it a helluva lot more fun. As for playing all types of breaks...i agree with you again. it'd be nice to do a set of old school breaks, right up to the 2003 stuff. i suggest going down to beatstreet as much as possible. those guys know their breaks and will hook you up with good stuff if you ask for recomendations. also, it would be a wise move to start buying the ultimate beats and breaks series. thats all the original breaks in that series. love it. a lot of the time they will come with doubles in the pack. :c-tard: that long and mcquade thing runs from 2-4 pm. see ya there. Quote:
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Oct 25, 03
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ill be there too..
and yeah, scratch is a really good documentary! one of my favs... i want to arrange a scratch session sometime like what q had at his place
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Oct 25, 03
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his set up was fucking insane..........the 4 way box......pimp
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Oct 25, 03
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That is one of the best (music) documentaries I've ever seen, as well. Super entertaining, and fun to watch over and over.
The Qbert, Z-trip, Jazzy Jay, X-ecutioners thing at the Cave is actually technically the 2nd annual SCRATCH tour...Mixmaster Mike and others were on it last year...but it's an American thing...they're coming up to Van 2 days before their Seattle show, thanks to Spectrum. Can't wait!
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Oct 25, 03
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However, turntablim definitely adds another dimension to a set. Although i am getting sick of djs mixing tracks after 5 minutes and calling it a set...
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Oct 25, 03
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phunk, i can only partially agree with you. Tiesto, armin, pvd, sakin they all dj. all are world reknown. and none of them scratch. they are some of the best in the world even. i've heard people say that they can mix just as good as armin or tiesto, and i'd have to agree. but, these guys have the tightest track selection and ability to read a crowd. that's what seperates the the few from the rest. Scratch called it digging (going through crate after crate of records finding that perfect 'rare' track), and the dj's that bore you don't do that, they buy the most popular tracks. and that's it. in that way, a set can get boring. but if you got the black gold to back up your rep. you're laughing all the way to stardom.
isn't that what dj'ing is all about? taking tracks, and making people move their asses? if you need to scratch because you got that type of crowd infront of you, by all means. go for it. if you need to spin disco gospel drum and bass at rediculously slow speeds... and it makes them dance... do it. If your crowd is into gregorian chanting, and you gotta accapella it yourself, by all means, pick up that mic, clear your throat, and good luck. Phunk, i'm sure you got me beat in terms of BEING a dj, but don't go around telling people what it takes to be one because there are so many styles out there that not one person is right. if you call that winamp shit 'just fine', than we're definately at a difference of opinion. Last edited by Mr Ektion; Oct 25, 03 at 08:53 AM.
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Oct 25, 03
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but again, i say, blending is blending. you put qbert up with tiesto, who's got more skill in the end. qbert, hands down no questions asked.
and what the fuck are you talking about digging? this has nothing to do with digging. i'm talking skills on the decks. not track selection to get drugged up morons dancing. bare down skills with their hands, thats it. boring is hearing blended music over and over with nothing but that. seeing someone create sounds by cutting, scratching, bending and juggling beats, now thats being an exciting dj and thats an art form. i'm to drunk to go on with this tonight though, see you tomorrow.
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Oct 25, 03
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dude, you don't have to convince me that scratching is amazing. i'm the one that started the thread. i don't understand how you don't understand that i am just saying that great dj's have arisen from just blending 2 songs and depending on a great track selection. even great dj's like jazzy j and qbert need a creative and original track selection. right? whatever it takes to rock a crowd. it's the next step of dj'ing and you gotta seperate all the 'advanced shit' into a whole new catagory called 'turntablism'. they even said it in the video that it takes a different form of intellegence to dj like that.
you make it sound like i don't respect the art. i do. so much so infact that i'm passionate about it. but you should stop trying to sound so right and stubborn and i dunno... open your mind to different things that may not sound right to you. accept that there are lesser forms of dj'ing and you can be really good at those also. there is entertainment when you simply blend two tracks and everyone else in the world can respect it; why can't you?
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Oct 25, 03
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Theres alot of elements that can be put into a djs set. Like has been said already, if a dj has killer tracks, can mix tightly and can read a crowd then often times thats usually enough to make a dance floor go off, thats a djs job right?
There can be 2 djs who "just mix" who can both beat match the same, yet one may be boring as hell to see play and the other can add new elements and keep things exciting. When it comes to mixing theres a whole shit load of differnt things you can do, i agree that just beat matching and bringing in the next track at the end of the last can be boring, thats why djs have to be creative with what they do. So i wouldnt agree that a dj is nothing unless they can scratch. Different styles call for different skills. That being said, djs who scratch bring in another element to their set. Its another feature that can keep the party goer going off and loving what your doing. Its something that takes alot of practice. If you want to develop the crazy skills, scratching has to be something that your passionate about, something that if you knew that no one whould ever hear you play, you would practice anyway. I love watching dj's who you can tell that they have put all they have into what they do, so you best be sure ill be front and center for that scratch tour!! Those boys are incredible! ok back to studying... yeah thats right, on a freaking friday night... who the fuck makes a midterm on a saturday morning anyway?? :finger: you prof! Ryan ps. I gotta say, having decks in front of you with a broken right hand SUCKS! Its getting better though, so ill be up and running again soon. If anyone wants to come over for some jam sessions im always down for playing with new people :) (we best be doing it up again aaron and jon!!)
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Oct 25, 03
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for me its about taking it to the next level being an actual performer in front of the decks. Hence why I scratch, mix and bring out the drum machine :)
big ups to ryan for playing the trumpet while he's in the mix! thats what its all about.
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Oct 25, 03
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I cover all forms of electronica (cept hip hop)
Even though i dont play out.. It relives so much stress. I try to bring up a set using some ambient then going into some progressive trance, work my set faster and faster. I then try and spin some GOA trance then go darker and darker with my set finishing off with dnb and then into hardcore. I make a journey going from the light side of music into the deepest darkests depths of electronic music. May seem stupid.. but you asked for our thoughts.
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Oct 25, 03
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I plan to make a demo mp3 with as many genres as I can.
people who have listened to my sets before.. I will tell you this much.. THERE WILL BE NO SANDSTORM SORRY JOVI! if it doesnt get me anywhere.. then I have a funkin wicked cd to play when im on the skytrain.
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Oct 25, 03
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^^ i remember when you first bought sandstorm.. we were at some loungex sushi meet and you had a brand new copy of sandstorm along with blow your mind
and ryan: we HAVE to jam sometime soon.. im getting cranky! hehe
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Oct 25, 03
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yah ryan very soon.
i was hoping you'd be able to make it to that scratch lesson at long and mcquade but you've got a test right? ill bring over my mixer sometime soon...i need to learn some stuff from you. Quote:
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