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Old Dec 09, 06
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i think the moral of the story is this is probably the worst possible place for you to be looking for advice on this topic. but i've found that taking medication has not been the giant fucking issue that most drama queens make it out to be.
AMEN.

Honestly, there is a lot of information out there and your doctor should be willing to answer all of your mundane questions. I agree with Robyn, i highly doubt tha most fnkers can give you insight on medication unless its not prescribed.

Basically, it may take some time before you find the righ medication, unlike most kinds of sickness they cannot take a picture of your brain or find any concrete physical indications of what you have. It is very much, trial and error so you have to be patient and yes, edcuate yourself, read, ask questions but do so in the right place. Be very honest about your symtons and of what types of things you are unwilling to experience as a side effect.

The two most commmonly dreaded side affects from chemmical meds are :

1) lose of sex drive
2) weight gain

Also not cool:

3) weird rashes (only with certain meds)
4)acne

but you can also lose weight, as Robyn mentioned and become a hypersexual.

Anyway, good luck with your steps to take better care of yourself. You may learn its like nothing more then taking a morning vitimin.
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meds are always last resort, and should only be used if your suicidal or in such a bad state of mind that you can't function in daily life.

sometimes being on anti-depressants can, in the long run, actually create more problems than before.
meds are NOT the last resort and are not only used for sucide pateints.
I'm a suicid prevention worker, and likely, the only thing a suicidal person would do with their medication is stop taking it or threaten to take it all.

this is honeslty one of the most ignorant responses i have read on fnk in a long time.

Ps: There is such a thing as situational depression in which the mood is caused by a life incident or circumstance, in these cases and others, yes medication is not always the best thing, like with grief disorders etc, but when stuff gets to a certain point of showing no improvment medication is the next step, because it very well could be some sort of chemical imbalance in the brain. The person who posted this thread IS in therapy, given it time, but realized that they need to take the next step.
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How come all the people I like on this board have been treated for depression?
You've got good taste in people.

Basically, normal people are boring.
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Old Dec 09, 06
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i disagree.
i think brains function in a similar manner, but the chemistry in each persons brain is as unique to that person as anything else about them.
and things like SSRIs work on brain functions, not brain chemistry.
loollollol!

ssris are used to treat depleated serotonin...so that would coincide with ones brain chemistry jes?ssris trick the brain into thinking its producing more serotonin then it actually is,it doesnt help the brain produce more serotonin.

so in theory,ssris do not work on brain functions.

and also tea,the wrong medication prescribed to someone...for example say someone lik me who creates too much serotonin is prescribed an ssri it can have an adverse effect and make me psychotic!

so,the RIGHT med prescribed can be a good thing but the WRONG med can be pretty fucking horrible.
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loollollol!

ssris are used to treat depleated serotonin...so that would coincide with ones brain chemistry jes?ssris trick the brain into thinking its producing more serotonin then it actually is,it doesnt help the brain produce more serotonin.

so in theory,ssris do not work on brain functions.

and also tea,the wrong medication prescribed to someone...for example say someone lik me who creates too much serotonin is prescribed an ssri it can have an adverse effect and make me psychotic!

so,the RIGHT med prescribed can be a good thing but the WRONG med can be pretty fucking horrible.
Yes, the wrong medication can also bring out symptons of disorders that one never knew were there (or make current conditions worse) for example, if your doctor says you are depressed and instead you suffer from a mood disorder, you can become manic because of the anti-depressants.

So i highly recomend you get a full assement done because your counsellor probably cannot prescribe meds.

I'm studying for my psych disorder final right now, this is good written practice.
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A good way of going about this without pharmaceutical medication is:

- 2-4 tbsp, 2x a day of omega-3 fish oil (herring and/or cod oil)
- 100-200mg, 2x a day of 5-HTP supplementation (5-hydroxytryptophan - that's the stuff that gets converted into serotonin... your happy chemical)
- 200-800mg a day of SAM-e supplementation (the most effective natural anti-depression supplement)
Also, some slow release vitamin D can help, as well as taking a supplement of vitamin B12.
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Yes, the wrong medication can also bring out symptons of disorders that one never knew were there (or make current conditions worse) for example, if your doctor says you are depressed and instead you suffer from a mood disorder, you can become manic because of the anti-depressants.

So i highly recomend you get a full assement done because your counsellor probably cannot prescribe meds.

I'm studying for my psych disorder final right now, this is good written practice.
lollollolollol

Im not on meds nor do I need to be.My comment was an example,not a literal statement.And anytime when I was a teen when I needed meds I went to my GP not to a counsellor.Counsellors are stupid and a waste of time and money...on both sides.

Especially counsellors that work for government funded programs or organizations.
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the whore has spoken.
such a happy person.
hey its not my fault you dunno wtf yer talkin bout!

now go ride your leetal clip clop and shadddddddddddap
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such a happy person.
Must be the meds!
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lollollolollol

Im not on meds nor do I need to be.My comment was an example,not a literal statement.And anytime when I was a teen when I needed meds I went to my GP not to a counsellor.Counsellors are stupid and a waste of time and money...on both sides.

Especially counsellors that work for government funded programs or organizations.
Dude i wasn't talking about or to youuuu

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hey its not my fault you dunno wtf yer talkin bout!

now go ride your leetal clip clop and shadddddddddddap
go ride another penis.

ps nice english.

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talk to a doctor, no one on here is really qualified to give any advice.
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i disagree.
i think brains function in a similar manner, but the chemistry in each persons brain is as unique to that person as anything else about them.
and things like SSRIs work on brain functions, not brain chemistry.
SSRIs are meant to treat chemical imbalances, are they not?
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Old Dec 11, 06
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SSRIs are meant to treat chemical imbalances, are they not?
Yeah.

SSRIs treat the lack of (and/or the currently depleting) serotonin receptors (aka. a chemical imbalance) by acting upon the existing serotonin receptors and blocking them from being depleted in the future. It doesn't actually add anything new into your brain chemistry other than selective receptor blocking instructions... and that way it regulates the imbalance. The only things that actually ADD more receptors are foods (ie. omega-3 fish oil, orange juice, turkey, etc.), natural supplements, and regular exercise.
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impure... why all the hate? The "Wh0re" knows her shit pretty well as far as I can see and you shouldn't even be talking in here, and yet alone talking shit. Instead of accusing someone else of taking medication to make themselves happy - why don't you do yourself the same favor and start taking PLUR medication? All this hate for nothing...
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Yeah.

SSRIs treat the lack of (and/or the currently depleting) serotonin receptors (aka. a chemical imbalance) by acting upon the existing serotonin receptors and blocking them from being depleted in the future. It doesn't actually add anything new into your brain chemistry other than selective receptor blocking instructions... and that way it regulates the imbalance. The only things that actually ADD more receptors are foods (ie. omega-3 fish oil, orange juice, turkey, etc.), natural supplements, and regular exercise.
well then.. brain chemistry IS what's being affected.
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well then.. brain chemistry IS what's being affected.
Haha yeah true. :p
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do you still think i don't have a clue?
it affects the chemistry by working on a brain function.
it works on the re-uptake of serotonin.
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it doesnt work on a brain functions dumb dumb!!!

brain function=motor skills=speech=bending fingers=hand eye coordination.

ssris trick the brain into thinking its creating more serotonin then it is.they dont create more serotonin.the same amount of serotonin is there being held in limbo between two neurotransmitters!

fuck your dumb.too many kicks to teh head by a leetal clip clop yes?
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now everything makes perfect sense.

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out of curiousity, exactly how does everything make perfect sense?
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out of curiousity, exactly how does everything make perfect sense?


people that are depressed are miserable shmucks.

see,youre a miserable shmuck...AND youre depressed.

it all makes perfect sense,and i shoulda knowed it!
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Old Dec 13, 06
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it doesnt work on a brain functions dumb dumb!!!

brain function=motor skills=speech=bending fingers=hand eye coordination.

ssris trick the brain into thinking its creating more serotonin then it is.they dont create more serotonin.the same amount of serotonin is there being held in limbo between two neurotransmitters!

fuck your dumb.too many kicks to teh head by a leetal clip clop yes?

you're overlooking the fact that certain parts of the brain control diffrent things, and that the part of the brain SSRIs work on is the part that recycles serotonin and probably not the same part that controls motor function.
from my understanding, SSRIs don't create more serotonin, they stop the brain from re-uptaking as much. it makes it so that no large amount can be recycled or released. so that is why you become pretty much emotionless and numb. because you're emotions and censored, for lack of better wording.

it is also to my understanding that you can't FORCE a brain to create serotonin. 5htp is just a pre-cursor, and by ensuring your body has an ample amount, you ensure that your brain produces as much as it can. but it doesn't cause your brain to make more than it would naturally.

so how would tricking the brain into thinking it's creating more help? if the serotonin isn't there, you're mood isn't affected.
so if your theory is correct, i see no benefit from taking SSRIs.

your reply really makes no sense to me. it appears to have no purpose other than to make you look immature with your childish jabs at me and my career and your poor english.

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