Why does Kimmie think E is not a subject for this forum?

[Grapes]

Last time I did it, it certainly affected my mind and body.

And don't worry, I kept it clean.

[kiMMie]

HAHAHAHAHA. Was timing to see who would create a thread in this section to rebutt my closure of the other thread. You win Grapes!!!

And to answer your question, I think drug awareness and rehabilitation is a subject for this forum board. I don't condone the sharing of habitual use and "special recipes" on getting the best high.

If one wants to share "cocktails", do it via IM.

[impure]

i went to quote the original thread and it said the tread was closed!
TIMING!
what happened to the old section for such topics?

[kiMMie]

Originally Posted by impure

i went to quote the original thread and it said the tread was closed!
TIMING!
what happened to the old section for such topics?

It was removed as it was not appropriate and it was not the direction we wanted the site to go.

[-evil-duerr-]

we used to be able to have frank discussions about every aspect of dance music culture on this site.

I guess fnk has to maintain it's appearances now that it's soul purpose is that of a squeeky clean advertising medium for the kind of events where drug abuse is rampant.

[kiMMie]

Hmmm... that is interesting. I don't think one who truly appreciates the dance music culture needs to be on a drug of somekind, do you?

As the for site, we help local promoters to share information to members on upcoming events and artists that they might enjoy seeing in town. The site does not take any responsibility in a person's choice to do drugs at this event. Just because we help advertise and promote it, does not imply that we support the drug abuse that may/may not go on at these events. :weird:

[-evil-duerr-]

Originally Posted by kiMMie

Hmmm... that is interesting. I don't think one who truly appreciates the dance music culture needs to be on a drug of somekind, do you?
. :weird:

oh ofcourse not.. personally, most events I go to I just drink beer and smoke weed- chemicals really arent my deal anymore. Drugs are kids stuff. That's why I like to pass my wisdom about the shit on to the next flock.

I personally am disgusted that kids get to the points they do with ecstacy, and I constantly see it ON THIS FORUM. Kids posting threads about how they're all fucked up now from E.

The purpose of the advice I was giving about party favors is for HARM REDUCTION...

1) if you do E. do GOOD STUFF
2) If you have to get high. YOU DONT HAVE TO DO E

I personally don't think anybody should be doing drugs at any age, but those fortunate souls who know better aren't going to be on this website searching for answers.

If Big R's thread wasn't a cry for help. I don't know what is.

I was just trying to help with a language they would understand. you dig?

Originally Posted by -evil-duerr-

we used to be able to have frank discussions about every aspect of dance music culture on this site.

I guess fnk has to maintain it's appearances now that it's soul purpose is that of a squeeky clean advertising medium for the kind of events where drug abuse is rampant.

i hope you are wearing your helmet tonight.....

quite possibly the most ignorant post i have seen you make. this has nothing to do with appearances or advertising. dancesafe and other organizations like that were shut down for a reason, unsafe, and unreliable. everyones body metabolizes drugs differently, offering up a recipe for a cocktail is like giving them a loaded gun.

getting/giving drug advice on fnk is like going to a mechanic for your prostate exam.

Originally Posted by -evil-duerr-

oh ofcourse not.. personally, most events I go to I just drink beer and smoke weed- chemicals really arent my deal anymore. Drugs are kids stuff. That's why I like to pass my wisdom about the shit on to the next flock.

I personally am disgusted that kids get to the points they do with ecstacy, and I constantly see it ON THIS FORUM. Kids posting threads about how they're all fucked up now from E.

The purpose of the advice I was giving about party favors is for HARM REDUCTION...

1) if you do E. do GOOD STUFF
2) If you have to get high. YOU DONT HAVE TO DO E

I personally don't think anybody should be doing drugs at any age, but those fortunate souls who know better aren't going to be on this website searching for answers.

If Big R's thread wasn't a cry for help. I don't know what is.

I was just trying to help with a language they would understand. you dig?

uh, drugs are drugs are drugs.....

harm reduction, is not offering advice like get good stuff or make that switch to coke.

were you taking sex ed and drug classes with bold?

[kiMMie]

Originally Posted by -evil-duerr-

oh ofcourse not.. personally, most events I go to I just drink beer and smoke weed- chemicals really arent my deal anymore. Drugs are kids stuff. That's why I like to pass my wisdom about the shit on to the next flock.

I personally am disgusted that kids get to the points they do with ecstacy, and I constantly see it ON THIS FORUM. Kids posting threads about how they're all fucked up now from E.

The purpose of the advice I was giving about party favors is for HARM REDUCTION...

1) if you do E. do GOOD STUFF
2) If you have to get high. YOU DONT HAVE TO DO E

I personally don't think anybody should be doing drugs at any age, but those fortunate souls who know better aren't going to be on this website searching for answers.

If Big R's thread wasn't a cry for help. I don't know what is.

I was just trying to help with a language they would understand. you dig?

I agree with your disgust, however, I'm concerned on how the new breed tend to brag about their drug use or whine about how their high was not the "best"... especially on a public forum. I mean, come on... with security and internet policing on a boom now, why would one post about their bad habits on the net??

As for Big R's thread... I personally didn't see it as a cry for help, and what followed wasn't positive advice, but more experiments and recipes to aid in getting a "better high".

Again, thanks, but no thanks.

PS... Harm reduction = wear a seatbelt or wear a helmet, not pointing them in the right direction of "GOOD STUFF" :|

Originally Posted by kiMMie

I agree with your disgust, however, I'm concerned on how the new breed tend to brag about their drug use or whine about how their high was not the "best"... especially on a public forum. I mean, come on... with security and internet policing on a boom now, why would one post about their bad habits on the net??

As for Big R's thread... I personally didn't see it as a cry for help, and what followed wasn't positive advice, but more experiments and recipes to aid in getting a "better high".

Again, thanks, but no thanks.

cece, trading one vice for another is the best way to get rid of addiction, didnt you know?

[-evil-duerr-]

see this is tough, because were talking about kids who already use drugs. were talking to kids who already use drugs to the point that the drugs dont even fucking work.

You don't go to fnk when your looking for a 12-step program, if buddy needs that kinda help he should consult his family physician.

e.d. - this is what wiki had to say about harm reduction, in case you were confused.

Originally Posted by -evil-duerr-

see this is tough, because were talking about kids who already use drugs. were talking to kids who already use drugs to the point that the drugs dont even fucking work.

You don't go to fnk when your looking for a 12-step program, if buddy needs that kinda help he should consult his family physician.

k, are you being serious? cause i cant tell anymore.

offering up a cocktail instead of saying, oh i dont know.....GOING OUT ON A LIMB HERE WITH THIS THOUGHT.....

DONT DO DRUGS!

[cubed]

Yet there is an entire section of this site dedicated to the abuse of a controlled substance.

THEY'RE BOTH ILLEGAL, BUT IT'S OK TO TALK ABOUT THAT ONE BECAUSE I PARTAKE IN IT.

Come on CeCe, you're far too intelligent to try and negate that hypocrisy.

[-evil-duerr-]

I was just speaking as one honest party-goer to another.

I thought it was the appropriate venue to speak on the subject, unfortunately I was mistaken.

You can contort it by making it look like I'm being socially irresponsible, but I am just being realistic.

[kiMMie]

Originally Posted by -evil-duerr-

see this is tough, because were talking about kids who already use drugs. were talking to kids who already use drugs to the point that the drugs dont even fucking work.

You don't go to fnk when your looking for a 12-step program, if buddy needs that kinda help he should consult his family physician.

Um... dude, you're confusing yourself and me for that matter. :|

If they don't fucken work, are you saying that I should let other "kids" come on the board and share recipes and alternative drugs??? If they don't fucken work, why not suggest... DON'T DO THEM??? < BTW... isn't that more like harm reduction??

[-evil-duerr-]

you guys don't think anybody has ever told Big R not to do drugs?

Originally Posted by kiMMie

Um... dude, you're confusing yourself and me for that matter. :|

If they don't fucken work, are you saying that I should let other "kids" come on the board and share recipes and alternative drugs??? If they don't fucken work, why not suggest... DON'T DO THEM??? < BTW... isn't that more like harm reduction??

DONT WORRY, I FIGURED IT OUT. HE IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE AS TO WHY YOU SHOULDNT DO TOO MANY DRUGS, THIS IS THE RESULT.

[-evil-duerr-]

ha. i bet you've done more drugs than me... I mean please, aren't you a rave promoter. who the fuck do you think your kidding?

see I never had the "luxury" of going to raves every weekend when I was interested in it enough to have even wanted to- which was yeeeaaarrsss ago.

while all you vancity kids were poppin tabs every weekend, me and my smalltown boys were just spinning records and smoking joints.


I think I might have struck a nerve by talking about cocaine. Something you wanna share avana?

Originally Posted by -evil-duerr-

ha. i bet you've done more drugs than me... I mean please, aren't you a rave promoter. who the fuck do you think your kidding?

see I never had the "luxury" of going to raves every weekend when I was interested in it enough to have even wanted to- which was yeeeaaarrsss ago.

while all you vancity kids were poppin tabs every weekend, me and my smalltown boys were just spinning records and smoking joints.


I think I might have struck a nerve by talking about cocaine. Something you wanna share avana?

this has nothing to do with me, or what drugs i have done. i have thrown 3 separate events where there have been deaths, more than one in a night. deaths that were a result of the exact shit advice you are handing out right here. i dont have to have done the drugs to offer advice in this situation, i have seen it first hand.

[-evil-duerr-]

im just going to delete the post (threads locked, mods?) so that no idiot tragically o.d's and proves your point.

it wouldn't be so bad if it was just guys like me who know their limits and kids who've maxed out on e...but since I don't know exactly how old and experienced all of the people who may view this website are, I don't want to be associated with any bad choices.

Originally Posted by -evil-duerr-

im just going to delete the post (threads locked, mods?) so that no idiot tragically o.d's and proves your point.

it wouldn't be so bad if it was just guys like me who know their limits and kids who've maxed out on e...but since I don't know exactly how old and experienced all of the people who may view this website are, I don't want to be associated with any bad choices.

exactly my point. you know your limits, big r and the 90 pound 17 y/o kid do not.

[zarlon]

lol chronic pot smokers are just as mentally challenged as someone who abuses e or any other drug regularly. seriously. thanks for the hypocrisy in the morning, it sweetens the start of the day

[Revolver]

BULLSHIT.

i went back in re-read that thread and yes, posting that 'cake' cocktail for that dumbell ramaze was abit too much but the thread SHOULD NOT of been closed.

*edit*duerrs post wasnt all THAT bad. i could tell he was just trying to convey drug experience to someone who was asking. it wasnt like he was all like "DUDE, do this and youll get toatallly fucking wasted man...whoooaoao" *edit*

KIMMIE if you would of let the fnk do its job people like avana,ebbomega, myself and some of the other 'older' posters who have been around for a while would of picked up on it and disscussed it like what has happend in this thread.

there has been worse talk around these parts then drug-talk.

there is a whole section called the CHRONICAL for heavens sake....the google ads people are ok with that arnt they?