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Old Mar 04, 05
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First bad day at work =(

Usualy I leave work feeling great and rewarded... however for the past couple of days ive been after one of my students who continues to steel. It was awsome how I finaly cought her and got to work with the school's police officer... however by the end of the day it had came to punishing her.
The principal gave it to her hard wich was kinda good, however being the end of the day I had to watch her leave (alone walking home 1.5 k) with all this on her mind and almost in tears. She refused to talk to me or anyone else after being lectured and there was nothing I could do.

Normaly I would accept the fact that its tough love and the student would most likely stop after all we put them threw. However bc my student is special needs, it wont stop and already they deal with a VERY difficault social/emotional life at home. I feel so terible having to make the only good place in her life look like its against her. Its probly hard for you guys to undesrtand her condition... but basicly she has to moral understanding at all, there fore any kind of punishment is almost usless. So why put her through this agian and again when the last thing she needs is more negativity?


Poor thing, I wish I could hug her.
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Old Mar 04, 05
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I wish I could hug you right now Rhia <3 <3 <3 UghH that must've been a tough decision / outcome to see the student after all of it was delt with :S

It's unfortunate that the student was stealing. Although at the same time it's kind of sad to know that it's a bit hard to control. It doesn't really sound like there's a particularly easy way to deal with the problem ...

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Old Mar 04, 05
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oh no :( thats horrible. sounds like quite the difficult situation you are in. poor girl. well..i hope that things eventually work out, or at least get better. *hugz*
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Old Mar 04, 05
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you should try and work out some kinda of a punishment that always involves a learning to it



so many times the principals/authority figures will punish...by letting them miss something fun, or by suspension or something...and they think they'll learn their lesson


you need to teach her of why its wrong...and show her...grr i wish i could come up with an idea...but right now my mind is blank



as for how you feel, i cant imagine...im sure its hard and stressful and dissapointing for you...but just remember to let her know shes still special and a good person... dont look down on her, make her still feel as welcome as she was before this happened.

dont of course pay extra attention to her, cause the lesson in stealing will be lost.


good luck hun
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so many times the principals/authority figures will punish...by letting them miss something fun, or by suspension or something...and they think they'll learn their lesson


thast a really good idea
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Old Mar 04, 05
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You would burst into tears just hearing about her peronal history. She doesnt understand that steeling is wrong and probly never will because of what shes been through. EVERYONE for YEARS has tried almost everything to help this student. When I finaly got her to admit that she stole from one of her good friends she burst into tears. Im proud shes very wiling to pay them back, however the very next day she did it again.

What else becomes hard is this is the FIRST time shes ever admited to steeling. Were dealing with one of the best actors (liers) in the world here lol. So at one point I want to phrase and incurage her honesty, but I still have to punish her for steeling with out getting her to lie again.

The issue were shes "special needs" also comes into place. Most of the ppl I work with agree that she should be treated like everyone else. As I made her see the princepal. However suspention or taking somthing away from her WILL NOT effect her becuase of her diagnosis. So what can you do? All this punishment is doing is makign her feel absolutly terible and shitty. This girl needs all the self esteam she can get wich makes it soo hard to punisih her agian and again.

Ive got a couple of ideas. One keep a jurnal where she can admit to steeling (prob wont wrok) Two re-verse train her by holding a walet/back pack near her with money in it and constinly reminder her NO!


And yeah Ive been told by everyone this is a very hard case and really no one knows what to do but keep trying.


*sigh*

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woh. does she suffer from a kind of kleptomania?
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Old Mar 04, 05
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Chop her fucking hands off, Doom is pretty sure that will put the kibosh on the whole stealing thing... or just threaten her with plenty of hot dickings.
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Old Mar 04, 05
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hmmm rhiannon....what about stealing from her?
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Old Mar 04, 05
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Holy hardtimes Rhia! I will give you a hug tonight when I see you @ Marine Club! <3 These things are never easy with a "typical" child/teen, let alone a student who has special needs. Their logic and understanding and processing of situations is just so different! And it's hard when you consider all the school policies that those students are expected to abide by also, just like everyone else. I understand that you guys had to take action, and that there needed to be administrative and legal involvement. It just has to be that way. I wish there was an easy solution, but there isn't. Otherwise we would be out of a job after the first day! Msn me and we can bounce ideas off each other. Take care hun, and have a good weekend. That's the best prep for Monday that you can give yourself. And don't forget, you're doing an amazing job! I am really beginning to understand that not everyone can do our job. Goooo Rhia! :)
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Old Mar 04, 05
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Holy hardtimes Rhia! I will give you a hug tonight when I see you @ Marine Club! <3 These things are never easy with a "typical" child/teen, let alone a student who has special needs. Their logic and understanding and processing of situations is just so different! And it's hard when you consider all the school policies that those students are expected to abide by also, just like everyone else. I understand that you guys had to take action, and that there needed to be administrative and legal involvement. It just has to be that way. I wish there was an easy solution, but there isn't. Otherwise we would be out of a job after the first day! Msn me and we can bounce ideas off each other. Take care hun, and have a good weekend. That's the best prep for Monday that you can give yourself. And don't forget, you're doing an amazing job! I am really beginning to understand that not everyone can do our job. Goooo Rhia! :)
Thanx nev! Yeah its just been such an over load for me this week... ive missed so many classes that im suposet to be helping other students in, since ive been just working on this case so much. Ive talked to the councelor, Resorce Teacher, pricipal, school police officer, parents and all the SEA's... Ive kinda avoided that topic today and gave her a break.
On monday will start fresh and ive already got a board of life choices for her to follow and concider. One thats gonna take alot of work is almost like ABA... ill get a wallet/real money and keep it infront of her or tell her were it is. Will practice her seeing it or being alone with it and trying not to steel it.
We think that this habbit she has is almost like a way of servival for her that she learned in her early history.
But whats really sad is during lunch the staff and I started talking about her future. We could predict step by step what would happen (prostitution/jail/murderd/abused) I just wanted to cry. Its so sad too cus I only have 2 more months left to work with her before she moves to her school DOWN TOWN!
But whats really wierd is we though jail may be the best thing for her(rutine/supervised/females only/proper diet and exercise)?
However we highly doubt shell do anything bad enough to get in ther =/
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Old Mar 06, 05
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Tough, tough love... :( *hugs* Anytime you need, call/msn me!

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