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View Poll Results: Should Canada bring back the death penalty?
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Old Oct 03, 05
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Pro Dead or Pro-Life?

I'm not talking about abortion here... I'm talking about death row!

Should the death penalty be re-instated? Is it fair of us to house killers for their life, or risk letting them out to kill again? Or is it just as wrong for us to kill some one, even if they might have be rightfully convicted of murder.
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Old Oct 03, 05
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I think we need to bring in the Castration Penalty. This way we don't kill the culprit, but they are no longer allowed to procreate.
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Castration for rapists, pedophiles and other such 'sexual criminals' would be a suitable penalty. But it'll never happen..
As for the death penalty, I agree with you Crazy Dave- why should we pay to house these murderers (the ones that are truly and rightfully convicted). But at the same time, who are we to say that someone deserves to die. Too bad the guilt itself doesn't kill them. But some of them prob don't ever feel guilt anyways.
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Old Oct 03, 05
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I'm not talking about abortion here... I'm talking about death row!

Should the death penalty be re-instated? Is it fair of us to house killers for their life, or risk letting them out to kill again? Or is it just as wrong for us to kill some one, even if they might have be rightfully convicted of murder.

We wouldn't even need a death penalty if we had a SERIOUS life in prison term. Not this 25 years with parole crap, but like the states have.

You can get two consecutive 100 year life sentences with no parole.

If we had something along those line of 100 years and no parole for like murder.

Plus if someone is wrongfully commited gives more time to put together a case and appeal
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Old Oct 03, 05
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^ i guess it would be costly though but i don't know because th e death penalty i wonder how many people have been wrongfully killed on death row in the states.

Its prob why majority don't actually die on the chair or injection, they die from being in prison their whole life.
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I think a death sentence is letting the convicted criminal off easy.
I say have a more serious life sentence (like the states), lock the fuckers up and
Let them get raped up the ass for years on end until they eventually die of syphilis or hang themselves with a hand crafted pubic hair noose.
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Old Oct 03, 05
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Ok it's been a while since my college criminology days, so my numbers may be a bit off but roughly:

$30,000 - $40,000 per year to keep a criminal in jail.
Almost $60,000 per year to keep an inmate on death row for a minimum of 3 years, but usually 5-7 years before they get thier sentence
Over 1.1 million $$$ to execute a criminal on death row.(Mostly paper work, and red tape bullshit.)

or

$0.90 for a brand new shiny bullet to go through the back of some murderers head.
$2.29 for a roll of paper towels to clean up the chuncks of brain and skull.

Now I'm well aware that our criminal justice system is nowhere near perfect and plenty of guilty people go free/innocent people go to jail. But rather than the costly long and drawn out proceedure we use today, why not hurry things up a little and use all the saved $$$ for oh I don't know, maybe health care or education or maybe a freakin tax cut!!

If there is any reasonable doubt of the person's guilt then by all means go through the apeal process and take your time, because if the person really is innocent, it would be a shame to kill them and find out later that he was innocent after all. But when you have indisputable evidence like a group of people witnessing the murder, some clear video footage or the accused actually admiting what he has done, then case closed, bullet to the brain.

I think if someone is on death row and has 0% chance of being set free or living a normal life, give them the option to be "put down" and avoid the waiting and cost involved, not to mention the slight possibility that the prisoner may escape some how and be set loose in society.

What if they were offered a deal that would make all parties happy. Example: John is convicted of multiple murders, and has no chance of rejoining society at all. He has 5 years of waiting in a cell on death row (roughly $300,000) then he gets the chair (Total of over a million bucks). Sure people say "Well if he murdered someone, he should rot in jail and suffer a bit before they kill him". Bullshit, he will be fed and clothed and housed with excercise equipment, t.v., drugs and all the free anal sex he can handle.

John isn't happy (not that his feelings matter), the public isn't happy about shelling out a million bucks in taxes for each asshole who needs to die.

or

Let John know what is in store for him and give him another option: Offer him a private cell with all the amenities he could ask for, gourmet food and lots of porn. In exchange for his services in allowing drug companies to run tests on him, using him as a human guinea pig. Some of the tests might be painful but not as bad as shower rape, while other tests may not be unpleasant at all. And worst case scenario, he has a ad reaction and dies, oh well he was on death row anyways. Why not offer this option to any and all inmates, they would obviously have to sign a waiver, but if it's all by the books, we may have found a way to avoid testing on animals(which doesn't even give us an accurate conclusion as to how a human would react, since people and bunnys AREN'T THE SAME DAMN THING!!!) Save the country millions of dollars and find cures to deseases. John is happy cause he gets to eat well and be happy for his last few weeks/months/years that he's being tested on, but not too happy since lots of these tests would probably be extremely painful. The public is happy at getting a tax break and a cure for LUPUS. Am I missing something here?

Save the bunnys, test on rapists!
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Old Oct 03, 05
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ei ei, off with his nuts, but what do we do with the female offenders...
could get messy.
I say ..... put all people stupid enough to get caught for their crimes, into a pit...then let them all fight to the death for their freedom...
then you take the winner, and you reward him with a hanging.
Kill em all!
dont worry about sorting anything out.
thats not a very nice thing to type, so I am going to say let all the serial killing baby-fuckers go free, but let the public know who they are, and when they are getting out, so we can cut off their balls, wait a bit, then kill em.
What a question, hope you are satisfied with my answer.
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murders and rapists should be donated to science... offing them is kinda useless... and why should people that torture others before killing them get a quick, painless death? donate to science... or complete total isolation...
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murders and rapists should be donated to science... offing them is kinda useless... and why should people that torture others before killing them get a quick, painless death? donate to science... or complete total isolation...
Hmm.. actually yeah, I retract my statement. Using them for science and other related things would be alot more beneficial (and prob cheaper too).
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Old Oct 03, 05
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killing people is okay as long as youre honest with them about it beforehand
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Old Oct 04, 05
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^ i guess it would be costly though but i don't know because th e death penalty i wonder how many people have been wrongfully killed on death row in the states.
I read somewhere that during the last 100 years 30% have been wrongfully killed on death row in the US.
I'm sure that the majority of these cases haven't been recent, BUT STILL.

I disagree with it.
Yes some of those bastards "deserve" to die, but that's not our place to decide.

I never thought of using inmates for science idea. Interesting...
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Old Oct 04, 05
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killing people is okay as long as youre honest with them about it beforehand
Well this is one that has to be archived.

I wish I had time to say something about it...but there's just too much I wanna say.
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Old Oct 04, 05
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Well this is one that has to be archived.

I wish I had time to say something about it...but there's just too much I wanna say.
yea you should archive all my posts, theyre good shit

and you better make time.
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Old Feb 18, 06
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i think dave should fry for not standing up and taking the responsibility for the fact that he has a kid
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it's your own fault for getting involved with someone with dave's character.

don't you think you should have put some thought into where things would end up if anything like this was to happen?

Dave's a nice guy and all, but hardly the child rearing type, you should have thought about this.

seriously, give your head a shake.
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Castration for rapists, pedophiles and other such 'sexual criminals' would be a suitable penalty. But it'll never happen..
As for the death penalty, I agree with you Crazy Dave- why should we pay to house these murderers (the ones that are truly and rightfully convicted). But at the same time, who are we to say that someone deserves to die. Too bad the guilt itself doesn't kill them. But some of them prob don't ever feel guilt anyways.
I agree..castration would be a wonderful penalty.
i am divided on the whole situation...one one hand, i think that if someone brutally takes someones life, its not fair at all that they only have to give up a measly 25 years of their life in jail...and probbely get out early on paroll...thast just sickening
but that the same time...i dont think its up to us to decide who gets to live and who gets to die..
I think that "life" should really mean "life" you in there till you die.... or castration :)
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Old Feb 18, 06
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I agree..castration would be a wonderful penalty.
i am divided on the whole situation...one one hand, i think that if someone brutally takes someones life, its not fair at all that they only have to give up a measly 25 years of their life in jail...and probbely get out early on paroll...thast just sickening
but that the same time...i dont think its up to us to decide who gets to live and who gets to die..
I think that "life" should really mean "life" you in there till you die.... or castration :)
agreed.... i'm very ambigious on this...
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it's your own fault for getting involved with someone with dave's character.

don't you think you should have put some thought into where things would end up if anything like this was to happen?

Dave's a nice guy and all, but hardly the child rearing type, you should have thought about this.

seriously, give your head a shake.
C'mon Jim.
It's all well and good for men to be unsympathetic - it's not like you guys are going to be the ones stuck with the kids when we women decide to fuck off.

In all honesty, you can never REALLY depend on anyone else. That doesn't make it OK for you to tell a girl you're going to be there for her and the baby and then disappear or change your mind. That's not fair to anyone, and I don't care how immature or scared you are, you know better!

If you can't do it on your own, make sure you take him to court and get the right amount of child support. If you CAN do it on your own, tell him to hit the road and cut him out of the kid's life - it seems like he's only going to emotionally damage the kid in the end. Anyways, that's what I'd do.
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^it's just as much her fault as it is his.
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In any other situation I would side with the unwed mother.

But knowing the paternal involved, it was a garaunteed happening.

She's just as much to blame as he is.
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Old Feb 19, 06
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sex offenders should not be casterated they should be killed.Why?well,casteration doesnt stop thier sexual urges to reoffend,even if they are put on therapy to control the urges its never fool proof because they have abnormalitys in thier brain and with the chemicals produced in thier brain,or lack there of.

However murderers can be rehabilitated so can theifs,just as long as they dont have some kind of brain abnormality that would impead the rehabilitation process.

and poohbearhoney go to family maintenance and have his wages garnished for child support,if that doesnt work his license will be revoked and his credit will be screwed for 6 years:)And you dont need his sorry ass to raise the child,if hes been a deadbeat since day one he has no right to have ANYTHING to do with that child AT ALL.
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Old Feb 20, 06
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i cant believe no ones mentioned gulags!

there are countless places in the far north that would be perfect for hosting one. i think a few winters digging trenches and filling them up again, and a few summers swatting black flies would rehabilitate far more than a year in a comfortable jail cell.. and theres no need for walls to keep them in when its over 1000km to anywhere.
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^it's just as much her fault as it is his.
The fact that they have a child together, yes.
The fact that he's a coward and took off on her, no.
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Old Feb 20, 06
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Or how about we let the family of the murder victim kill the murderer?
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