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Jack Bruce (of Cream) says Led Zep is "lame" and Jimmy Page is "crap"

Jack Bruce calls Led Zep "lame", Jimmy Page "crap" | musicradar.com

A little extreme opinion maybe, but i've always thought Page was overrated in his guitar skill (and I'm most definitely a Jimmy Page fan).

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The UK’s Classic Rock awards are normally a relatively genteel affair for old rockers happy to be recognised in the autumns of their careers.

No-one obviously spread the message of bonhomie to Cream bassist Jack Bruce. In an astonishing outburst, he called Led Zeppelin’s reunion “lame” and Jimmy Page a “crap” guitarist.

Bruce was attending the awards show to accept the Classic Album award for Cream’s Disraeli Gears, released in 1967, but it was his after-show interview which has made the headlines.

Bruce was speaking to Classic Rock’s writer Dave Ling.

Dave Ling: It’s good news that there might be more from Cream?
Jack Bruce: “Well, the trouble is that I’m doing so many amazing things on my own. Cream is just a band from many, many years ago, and we did do something [referring to the reunion shows in 2005]…
"Fuck off, Zeppelin, you’re crap. You’ve always been crap and you’ll never be anything else." Cream's Jack Bruce

“Everybody talks about Led Zeppelin, and they played one fucking gig – one fucking lame gig – while Cream did weeks of gigs. Proper gigs, not just a lame gig like Zeppelin did, with all the [vocal] keys lowered and everything.

“We played everything in the original keys. [Becoming animated]: Fuck off, Zeppelin, you’re crap. You’ve always been crap and you’ll never be anything else. The worst thing is that people believe the crap that they’re sold. Cream is 10 times the band that Led Zeppelin is.”

Ling: That’s a bold opinion.
Bruce: “What? You’re gonna compare Eric Clapton with that fucking Jimmy Page? Would you really compare that?”

Ling: To be fair, they’re different kinds of player, aren’t they?
Bruce: “No! Eric’s good and Jimmy’s crap. And with that I rest my case.”

At the earlier awards ceremony, other winners included:

Band Of The Year – Foo Fighters
Living Legend – Ozzy Osbourne
Showman Of The Year – Paul Stanley from Kiss
Event Of The Year – Led Zeppelin at London’s O2 (December ’07)
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so? Who listen to Cream except some one that plays guitar?
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I do.
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Old Nov 05, 08
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Zeppelin drives me insane. I hate them.

I had a room mate who thought the only music in existence was Zepelling. For 6 months, every day I'd hear Zeppelin.

One of my best friends is also just as passionate about Zeppelin.

Don't get me wrong they're talented.. I just can;t stand their music. I get absolutely no enjoyment, in fact I get aggravated, listening to them. Especially Robert Plant's voice.
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I think that, as a guitarist of 9 years myself, Page is immensely talented. I do however think he was a bit sloppy, but I wouldn't rule out that he was intentionally so.
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^if it came down to choosing between the two though, it would be an immediate nod to clapton.
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I wouldn't refute that. But I bet Page could clean up his act and hold his own if he wanted to.
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so? Who listen to Cream except some one that plays guitar?
Page vs. Clapton.

God, that'd be a slaughter.

Pay close attention here Stu. I don't want you to misunderstand me here:


Clapton Is God

I'd take White Room over Stairway any day.

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Hehe that's a great interview. Catch him when he's drunk and riled up and let the fur fly!

As much as he might have some technical ground to stand on, the whole thing is clearly bitterness over respective popularity and perceived injustice.
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Didn't Zeppelin start playing their sets in a lower key because Robert Plant is a fat bastard and he let himself go? Guy doesn't even have the pipes anymore.

The comparison between Page and Clapton is killing me.
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wow.

jack bruce complaining and throwing a fit....against zepplin no less., shocking.

Page was a MASTERFUL producer of guitar music and clapton cant even come close to his ability to compose material. Page was decidedly sloppy in his live playing for the sake of feeling and jack daniels.

Clapton was raw,true blues and his speed and technical prowess when compared to Page is in the same line as the more modern Slash vs. Hammet debate. Page just dose not even come close.

they can be both rooted deeply in Robert Johnson.

Its impossible to definatively pick which one is better but I always tend to gravitate towards Page, its in his feeling,the songwriting and his occult connections i suppose.
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they can be both rooted deeply in Robert Johnson.
Except Page read books about making that deal at the crossroads, while Clapton actually did make the deal.
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Except Page read books about making that deal at the crossroads, while Clapton actually did make the deal.
sang about it.

both men lived very much on that side of things.

deals were deff made.

The case/mythology of Robert Johnson and his impact on nearly all of the major influential guitarists is one of my favorites in all of music.

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deals were deff made.
clapton + son + open window = you know something was signed.
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clapton + son + open window = you know something was signed.

exactly man.

exactly.
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so tasteless

but so true.
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so tasteless

but so true.
tasteless?
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Page got off light, he just had to do an album with David Coverdale.
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^ He also had to appear on SNL while Puff Daddy bastardized Kashmir, arguably one of the greatest songs of Page's career.
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If I ever. ever. find that crossroads, I'm signing the dotted line. Believe you me.
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tasteless?
I'm guessing he ain't seeing him in heaven.

amirite or amirite?
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If I ever. ever. find that crossroads, I'm signing the dotted line. Believe you me.

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I went down to the crossroads... fell down on my knees.
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A little extreme opinion maybe, but i've always thought Page was overrated in his guitar skill (and I'm most definitely a Jimmy Page fan).
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