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big risk invovles making big money.. Small parties are low risk with little money earned.. To each their own.....
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but through the investors in the party, it's not as if Azim himself is taking a 100 000 bill from his pocket and slapping it on the table.
And don't forget he's making money off it. He's made money off it, while increasing ticket prices, and decreasing quality. Face it. You are being sold a shitty product, at a marked up price. Your probably the kinda kids who buy ecko and nike gear for four hundred bux each cause it has a fucking logo on it... Whatever though. I know I'm right when I say that he's making money on a shitty product. You guys know your right with whatever points that you kinda tried to make. |
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Jun 01, 02
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The endless debate
This debate goes on endlessly and I think that people have to look to other sectors of the economy and put raves and parties and electronic music into perspective in order to just cest la vive.
What the electronic music and rave scene needs is diversity in order to stay alive and continue to grow. We need the smaller parties and the Crazy Daves and the Wickedhouseparty and the low-budget promoters and the clubs and the monthlies and the Benson & Hedges superclub events, we also need the Twisted Plaza parties and the Exerts and the Magic Mountains. We need more diversity within the scene in order for it to stay alive and grow rather than bickering on message boards about how its either large-style big money Twisted-style events or small-time underground events. WE NEED IT ALL. The scene would suck if it were only Twisted. We all know that. Nothing against Twisted - they throw high end events and they are good at it. The scene would suck if it were only Ninjaboy and Crazy Dave too. They throw alternative events with alternate music types - those people need a scene too. Nothing against Crazy Dave or Ninjaboy. Why the endless debate bashing one type or another. Differnt strokes for different folks and the whole scene benefits from a vibrant electronica scene. We need the high-end and the low end and everything in between, and at this point in Vancouver, we need much more of all of it. :) - my two bits & Ryan : I know you werent bashing anyone. :) Last edited by Sir_K; Jun 01, 02 at 09:35 AM. |
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Twisted leads the pack when it comes down to it. I have been to a lot of plaza parties by different production companies that couldnt even come close to what Azim and the crew put together.. |
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one thing i dont understand is, why is it always the "small show" promoters who are so agro towards the people who throw big parties. aren't you guys supposed to be the "chill" ones?
don't get me wrong, i love to bash azim with the rest of them.  hahahah, nice wristband rockstar! but why do you get so agro at people like kraig defending twisted. sure we all know their shows are a big scam and that they are money hungry people who dont give a shit about "the scene". but why does that make you angry? it's not like you have to support their events, and it's not like the people who go to your events support their events either. it seems like kraig is the only one being chill, which is all about what your parties are about right? ya, flame away. pLurItUp OK |
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I think you kinda answered it yourself.
It's kinda like why people get mad at people for stealing from the food bank. Sure it dosen't effect me, but it's stealing/making money off something which shouldn't be there for your own personal food/money troff. |
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haha what-evs. big parties, lil' parties, good parties, bad parties, green eggs and ham. it's all good. and and yes ..... about the name brands. i don't wear ekco or nike, thank you. i wear twisted! alrightys. bring on the hate. bu baaaiiii |
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i think deep down the reason you have animosity towards these people are because they are the ones making the big money ninjaboy. hey, maybe some day the massives will start to flock to shows that play gabber and dethcore and what ever other weird music you listen to. comparing stealing from food banks to charging high prices for rave tickets? give me a break man.
people who buy tickets for these shows (the consumers) know what they are getting, thats what they want, they want to go stand in the plaza with 2000 other stinky kids with soothers in their mouths and bright yellow clothing because it's the cool thing to do right now. im sure 25% of them dont even grasp the fact there is a dj mixing tracks together, they dont care, they are there to get fucked up and listen to "rave" music. they dont care if the headliner doesnt show, they dont care if water costs 4 dollars, they are there because its whats cool to do. they are the massives, and they arent donating their money to a charity and having some one steal it, they are there to be entertained, and obviously they are or they wouldnt keep paying all of this money. sure there are people who know whats up that go to these parties, well obviously they are there because they like these massive shows to, with big time dj's, not local kids who play happyhardcore and gabber and party out in squamish in the bush. im not coming down on the parties u throw, or are involved with, because i go to mainly small parties to. but dont be so agro because you feel they are stealing money from people, people choose to pay it, and they know the product they are going to get. peace! ..sebcoe.. |
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hmm well when I thought of this I laughed pretty hard
read this and see if you see what I see When I rent sound from the smaller guy for like a second room I ethier have to help pick it up,help setup or supply something when I rent from masterplan I pay alittle more ,but I don't set it up,i don't wait for it,I don't take it down etc etc so smaller parties cost less due to the fact that you get less now throw in your ,hey its a better vibe at a smaller party..etc etc at a bigger show ,it doesn;t get shut down,the talent is of a higher quality if you go to the right ones or hear talent that would only hear at a massive. I don't know why people slag on the big guys?? if you ask azim,jay-c etc etc they will tell you that "yea I'm throwing a party at plaza"....thats what they call it a party. if they pack these parties weekend after weekend,then it would be safe to assume ,that there is a demand for these types of parties supply and demand here's a question for yea yer a small party promotor......after your 10th party you notice that you can easily get 2000 people to attend your shows.What do you do?? =P |
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A: I'm 100% sure that would never happen B: I don't like large parties, so I probably wouldn't bother selling 2000 tickets. C: I would if I was forced to throw a massive, I guess. But I doubt I'd be looking to make the horrid profit margin. I understand what your saying, (evidently sebcoe probably is the only one who had any point). Oh yeah, jordie, on that whole small sound retnal thing? You actually hooked up and set up the sound system? |
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no with the smaller rentals ....im just saying I save $$
but not all the time but usually, I have to help pick some stuff up or supply something...which isn;t a problem at all ,only making a comparison cause I know yer so anti-masterplan |
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Plus if you know the boys at Masterplan and have good contacts with them, you can always haggle with them and swing a deal. |
