May 17, 04
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GROOOOOOOVE number 1
There's already a couple posts about the party but I figure I should make a post so everyone knows whats up
First off.......Props to you people! As usual The vibe was as in incredible as any party we've thrown It was a full house the dj's all had a great time performing for ya Mea loved the underground feel of the show. It's not everyday she gets to play at a show like this Our original intent for Groove 1 was to have an oldschool warehouse party. Just like they started back in the day before plaza and all that. I've been noticing lately over the last year that a lot of you haven't experienced anything like it. The venue we originally had in South Vancouver was a bit bigger, had more ventalation and was a lot less likely to get shut down. Unfortunatly due to an afterhours held there 3 weeks ago there was a fight that got pretty ugly, and we lost the venue and had to move the party to Here on Earth on Hastings. Other venues around town had been already booked The Police came around 3am and told me that somebody had called 911 from inside the party saying that their was someone overdosing. I let them inspect the venue Nobody was overdosing. I later learned they just used that as an excuse to get in the building. Of course it being an underground Illegal party they told me to shut it down. I guess they figure that my party with security and full searches, First Aid etc is more dangerous and illegal than sending 250 to 300 peeps out on the street in the ghetto at 3am to do god knows what. Very Smart! Our Warehouse party may have been hot and sweaty. But at least we did not turn on our heating full blast and turn off all the water in washrooms, so people will buy more water like Legal events at The Plaza of Nations did The city has to really take a good look at their policies. The scene may change but it won't be stopped anytime soon. They should be working with us to keep safe enviroments, not against us! Parties will always be happening. It's the cities choice if they want them to be held in underground warehouses or legal concert halls around the city. They said they'll be taking action against me with the city for ignoring the rave bylaws. I laugh at that. I've thrown 15 to 20 parties and countless other events. 2 have been legal events at The Plaza of Nations, 3 have been busted. 1 was cancelled. The rest have went on without problems I still consider that a great success rate. To date we are the only Rave company to consistantly throw both underground shows and Massives with big productions. We've also thrown events in Seattle and hopefully branching into other cities in the North West. Our future one off clubnights will be bringing in talent that would headline some of the worlds biggest events. You people are amazing! You're the reason we keep on going throwing party after party, risking huge financial setbacks. You're what makes the party and the vibe. We simply couldn't do it with you! This show getting shut down won't stop us It will only make us stronger and I hope that you will all be there with us! AGROculture has always been about Rebellion. Our parties are about getting hype, getting rowdy and of course having a good safe time. Togethor with you we're not gonna let anyone stand in our way! THATS THE POWER WE ALL HAVE WHEN WE STAY UNITED They can put up Barriers and we will climb over em, Walk around em and knock em down. We won't be Stopped! I hope Groove 1 has been worth it to you. Especially if you payed good money and only got to party for a few hours. If it wasn't worth it to you. Contact me and I'll do my best to resolve it with you |
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May 17, 04
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Also I must apoligize for the lack of fans and coat racks
They were on order be we were ablke to get em |
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May 17, 04
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oh yeah
Yes Dave you said it right,
Dave and I took ALL possible precautions to have this party go all night, with security first aid etc... unfortunately it seems the popo can find you in a bush miles away from civilization!! we have the guts to take the risks to be able to expose some of you to the true underground party vibe, yes douglas is a decent venue, but it isnt the idea we wanted for the GROOVE Series, however perhaps we have to give up some of the truth of our scene to simply keep it going... GROOVE 2 is in full effect and will go all night.... We always give everyone the best night we can... MEA had a blast and wants to come back asap, we are so happy with the turnout, and you can count on us to keep bringing back whats left of any originality in our scene... one love from the aGRO & La Cosa Nostra Camps... |
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May 17, 04
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Maybe I'm just bitter about not getting my money back for my rhythm nation ticket...I'm sure it's hard to be a rave promotor, especially in a city like Vancouver where the scene is harsh lacking and the LAST thing they want to hear is a bitchy girl like me, but after reading agrodave's post I felt his attitude sucks and the rave scene will never improve with people like him throwing parties. I know there are A TON of people on this board who support Agro parties and I'm sure I'm gonna receive a ton of bad karma/rude comments for this, but I'm not one of those supporters and don't plan on attending any more Agro parties. |
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May 17, 04
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Kandy Kid
Answer these questions then There's only 1 legal venue that is finacially reasonable to use in Vancouver. The PNE. It costs $250 000 to throw a party there, double what the plaza costs The average ticket prices are about about $65+ You could also throw a party at The Heritage Hall in Chiliwack or Riverside. Heritage Hall is very expensive and hard to get people out to and Riverside is almost impossible to break even at. The Agrodome is another venue where it's almost impossible to break even So the best bet is the PNE (even though it's put many promoters out of business) Thats great if you wanna party there and pay those prices. But what about the others? Every other rave that has happened in the past few years has been illegal. Plain and Simple I may be a bit rebellious and a bit mouthy. But if I'm taking proper precautions for crowd safety how am I doing anything wrong besides not getting a permit? A permit will not be issued to anywhere except for the places I mentioned above. Wouldn't it be nice if we could throw these parties legally in the many halls around Vancouver? You say the Vancouver scene is lacking? How so? Is it because There are only massives and a good number of the small parties get shut down? Or???? So what would you expect the promoters to do if they just wanna throw a small party? Retire? How would that better the scene if there were no small parties? I believe the city should work with the promoters to issue a permit small parties to happen at smaller venues as long as the proper Security, First Aid and Fire precautions are in place Don't you? Is that so much to ask? Quote:
Yes the Police are just doing their job. Thats why I don't blame them. It's the cities policies I don't agree with Large parties have more drugs, more violence, more gangs, more crime etc etc. Why are they legal and small parties aren't? Money! Thats why Large parties are big business. Small parties are just that......Parties So what am I doing that's so wrong by throwing small parties of a bunch of friends and friends of friends? Obviously my parties arten't for someone like you with your views. I guess I'll see you at the PNE next month |
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May 17, 04
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I'm not exactly sure what happned now. |
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May 17, 04
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^^^If someone was really overdosing then someone should definatly call 911 and tell someone who is running the party or security immediatly
Regardless if someone ODed or not. The party still would've been shut down. |
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May 17, 04
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^yeah i totally agree that they should call 911 if someone was OD'ing, obviously. I don't think anyone was though. I think someone just wasn't thinking clearly and called 911.
The cops were coming anyone though? Even without that call? |
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May 17, 04
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Last night brought back a lot of memories in so many ways because of this :D I even found an old g-spot tape under the seat to suit the ocation lol I hope alot of youngsters had a fun new expereince ;) Keep up the good work dave and rick!!! |
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May 17, 04
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First off mad props go off to the whole Agroculture and La Cosa Nostra production teams... You guys did one hell of a job on that party by bringin it back to the old school it kinda had that vibe of that one party at the paintball place out in surrey on scott road the name of it was Climax I think Jessie J threw that one... One of my fav parties of all time :D... Good seeing everyone I saw there I was way too hammered when I got there... Thanx for the hookup Dave and Rick my buddy had a blast there and he's pretty picky about the parties he goes to even though he don't go to that many... Saw Dj Mea's set a bit she's so hott man dope body on her then I was all pumped to see Thomas get up there and rip shit up like he's gonna at Shifted!!! Wanted to see Tazix and Akeel rip it up for the first time since kiss back in action... Money thanx for the Drinks bro good seeing u again at a party...
Shoutouts at the house Mickey thanx for the invite and the crazy bong hits dope pad u got goin on too man... Harp u were ripped dawg hahaha good times... Lauren u have a fun trip back with Ryan haha... Precise heard of what happened man hahaha too funny but hey it happens to the best of us right... Samantha, Lola, Mercedes, Natalia had a dope time with u gurls can't wait till next time hahaha good times... Dj A Man lol jj bro it was fun times partying with yah u looked like u were having a blast bro till next time u kno we gotta spin sometime bro... Rhia my leg still hurts from u wacking me with some sort of object... Myles good times once again u looked pretty messed u protect those jewels from Rhia lol... Whoever it was that was giving me directions to mickey's house after I called like 5 or more times, and being patient with me thanx :)... Miska good seein u again gurl and dang might I add u were lookin good ;) Nice meeting u ulala :)... Kenji sup bro... Goat buddy... Akeel It sure was little india at some times through out the house party lol |
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May 18, 04
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Great party as usual argo!!!!!! see you all at groove 2
If anybody found a grey t-shirt with green and blue graffiti on the front I am willing to fork out anything (within reason) to get it back....this shirt means the world to me, I bought it of a local artist (kwest) and he is my favorite writer. PLEASE PM ME IF YOU HAVE IT OR INFO ABOUT IT, THANKS |
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May 18, 04
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This is the shirt I lost........
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May 18, 04
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KAndy Kid
You also have to understand the countless hours that is spend in finding a venue. It is not an easy task. Promoters spent more time driving, making phone calls, meeting with people, spending money looking for a venue with that is safe, good location, affortable, and not bustable. Running check points and shuttle busses IS VERY HARD TASK. Sometimes the police are reasonable enough to let an event go on sometimes they shut it down. I also have been told a number of times that they will come after me if they find out about another illegal show. I feel that the best parties are the ones with an adveture before. When I throw a party I strive to make sure it goes all night and create the awsome undeground feel that I love so much. One day I hope a could throw and opperate a party much the same as Agros, ``Kick it`` or Who Knews ``get phucked`` (upstairs in a alley off hastings with Czech). Support your underground scene as this is what makes these promoters and DJs take it to the next level. Everyone must start some where. If Argo didnt start with small parties they never have thrown Kiss. Small parties make DJs known it gets there names out there. DA and Kelo started together with a party at Here one earth now throguh practice an experence we are stepping it up a notch with Unite. Dont kill your burn your wallet once very 3 months for Plaza party each week and have fun. Thats my rant Mike DA |
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May 19, 04
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May 23, 04
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"Hi alex, I'd like to buy a clue" I appreciate that you've really tried to put a well thought out argument despite what people might respond with, but you're pretty misinformed. The issues with RN had nothing to do with it being underground or illegal- there was just not enough support there to let it happen. I totally agree that you ought not to get mad at the police for doing the job, and you should be prepared to suffer the consequences if you do break the law- and I don't think Dave disagrees with that either. I really don't understand where you're getting this 'rebellious' act from. Dave puts a lot of time, energy and money into this so people can have fun, he's not some 16 year old kid dying his hair blue and writing anarchy signs on his dad's dress shirts. Plaza parties are all good and fun, but they're also expensive and there's just a lot of bullshit to deal with that you don't get at smaller, illegal parties. There used to be a time where at the majority of parties you went to were all a mystery- and that was half the fun. The real bonus was having the party last ALL night, and you have no idea how hard promoters have to work to make this possible with most venues. Do you think police and city council will really listen to ravers? Do you live in some kind of fantasy land? That's not going to happen, but that is all part of 'raving'. You know, it's like you almost had a point, but really, you just had an axe to grind from an issue that's almost a year old. |
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May 30, 04
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