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Old Aug 21, 06
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dont let him get away with it.
Get your agency to threaten him with legal actions
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It's time that we ALL stop letting Josh get away with things. So many people on this board could tell you stories about him that would make your stomach turn.

Reid I hope everything works out for you. I am sorry you had to go through this, but I am so happy you are strong and have told everyone.
He pulled this last Summer Break too with an Mc. I saw the whole thing go down. I don't know how that one was resolved though.
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Old Aug 21, 06
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If he can't deal with it, perhaps he shouldn't be running events.
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Old Aug 21, 06
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I'm waiting to hear the entire story from both sides.
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So insightful..
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Yeah, I saw everything upto the point that Reid left the stage (everything she said is what I saw, I was there from the start of her set, and no, I was not high/drunk). I'm amazed that it actually got worse afterwards, that's just nuts.

Mad props to your proffessionalism Reid, I'm totally glad you posted the story and are still going to visit Vancity, even though you got seriously jerked around.
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Old Aug 21, 06
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Hey Reid - I gotta call you out on some things here.

The guy that came up to you after all of this happened and you were sitting in your friends car, was me - I'm Kraig, from Twisted Productions here in Vancouver, not Edmonton (I had nothing to do with SummerBreakz other than DJ'ing there myself). -- I think you were thinking Edmonton because I had mentioned to you that you and I will be playing the same room as you at an upcoming party in Edmonton (Frequency).

I chose to involve myself as I saw Josh right after this happened who was still quite upset and agitated so I chatted with him for a bit. I then walked outside of the party to the car where you were sitting and introduced myself to you and that I was trying to understand what happened.

NEVER did I say, "you fucked up." -- That's not something I would say or even had enough knowledge of the situation to say. What I did say was that the promoter (right or wrong) believes you have fucked up. As for "finding the guy." Again, I said nothing of the sort but what I did say what that Josh and Kristine are looking for the guy that did jump Josh.

I took my own time to then go back into the party and say to Josh and Kristine --"look, I have no idea what went on here, but you aren't going to work it out tonight with a show still going on. If I were you, pay her half her fee now and work the rest out later." I relayed that to you and again, I did not say "what you did" but more so "what they thought you did."

Anyway - I was trying to help with the situation as I was on my way out and saw this.

If you have any questions, my email is [email protected] at which point I can PM you my mobile number.
You know Kraig, this smells like such a cop-out to me. You padded your words with a lot of qualifiers, but the meaning is still the same.

I have no business talking about this, but I just have to say that first off, before any of this story, the fact that out-of-town headliners were forced to find their own way out to Chilliwack is fucking appalling in itself. When I saw a thread posted on a public forum on Saturday afternoon that Slip and Demoliton Man needed a ride out to Summerbreak, I just shook my head.

This Reid Speed stuff looks like a lot of misunderstanding and no more, but there's been enough unproffessionalism coming from Silverwaters for long enough that I'm not feeling a whole lot of sympathy.
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You know Kraig, this smells like such a cop-out to me. You padded your words with a lot of qualifiers, but the meaning is still the same.

I have no business talking about this, but I just have to say that first off, before any of this story, the fact that out-of-town headliners were forced to find their own way out to Chilliwack is fucking appalling in itself. When I saw a thread posted on a public forum on Saturday afternoon that Slip and Demoliton Man needed a ride out to Summerbreak, I just shook my head.

This Reid Speed stuff looks like a lot of misunderstanding and no more, but there's been enough unproffessionalism coming from Silverwaters for long enough that I'm not feeling a whole lot of sympathy.
Dude -- you're not getting my point. I had nothing to do with the show I was just trying to help out wherever possible.

I'm not disagreeing with Reid or agreeing with Josh for that matter as I wasn't there when any of this went down.

I'm not copping out from anything, my post was to clarify the conversations I had with Reid and Josh/Kristine.

Make sense?
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^ I know. only the first section of my post was directed at you, and it was about the fact that adding a few softening qualifiers does not change the intent of your words.
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Old Aug 21, 06
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Hey Reid - I gotta call you out on some things here.

The guy that came up to you after all of this happened and you were sitting in your friends car, was me - I'm Kraig, from Twisted Productions here in Vancouver, not Edmonton (I had nothing to do with SummerBreakz other than DJ'ing there myself). -- I think you were thinking Edmonton because I had mentioned to you that you and I will be playing the same room as you at an upcoming party in Edmonton (Frequency).

I chose to involve myself as I saw Josh right after this happened who was still quite upset and agitated so I chatted with him for a bit. I then walked outside of the party to the car where you were sitting and introduced myself to you and that I was trying to understand what happened.

NEVER did I say, "you fucked up." -- That's not something I would say or even had enough knowledge of the situation to say. What I did say was that the promoter (right or wrong) believes you have fucked up. As for "finding the guy." Again, I said nothing of the sort but what I did say what that Josh and Kristine are looking for the guy that did jump Josh.

I took my own time to then go back into the party and say to Josh and Kristine --"look, I have no idea what went on here, but you aren't going to work it out tonight with a show still going on. If I were you, pay her half her fee now and work the rest out later." I relayed that to you and again, I did not say "what you did" but more so "what they thought you did."

Anyway - I was trying to help with the situation as I was on my way out and saw this.

If you have any questions, my email is [email protected] at which point I can PM you my mobile number.
This post right here goes to show that there are 3 sides to every story. Yours, theirs and the truth.

To Reid....

Quite frankly, I think it unprofessional as a DJ, to come onto the board, and call out the promoter in this fashion. You have a contract for a reason, if the promoter is in breech of that contract, then use that to your advantage. Defimation of character and slander are just as big of a deal in a court of law, you should be careful what you post on the net Reid, I would hate to see it used against you.

I don't know what happened first hand, but from your display here I am inclined to believe "the cracked out door girl's" version. Being a close friend of hers, she is fairly candid with me. Not once did she call you a name, or say anything nearly as unprofessional as you have here.

If you want your point taken, try putting it across in a more professional less embellished version, until then, you would make a better story writer than a DJ.
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So insightful..

thought the quote kinda spoke for itself... wouldn't let me post it without five characters tho :202:
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oh no I smell another punching bag thread from Avana coming up...
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^ I know. only the first section of my post was directed at you, and it was about the fact that adding a few softening qualifiers does not change the intent of your words.
Who is softening anything. I was making it CLEAR what was said and what wasn't said. I didn't soften any part of the situation.
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Old Aug 21, 06
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all i know is i'm a big speed garage fan and i was there for like an hour and heard only speed garage & housy shit

i left at some point (which must have been near the end) and never heard any DNB

i think it's quite obvious why she played DNB and it doesnt sound like her fault.....silence would have cramped ur stage's style a lot more
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this thread needs a lock.
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Old Aug 21, 06
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Quite frankly, I think it unprofessional as a DJ, to come onto the board, and call out the promoter in this fashion.
i think it's good that she posted that here. embellished story or not, there was a lot of rumours flying around and it's nice to hear the story from someone who was involved. i read the post as coming from someone who was angry about what happened to her and is going to write it in an angry way...even if she did put a few swear words in people's mouths, the part that counts is still true.
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Sorry that had to happen to you Reid.
Im glad your not getting mad at the vancovuer scene though. And I hope that a respectable promoter will bring you back. Because you have many fans out here for sure.

YA 4 SURE>>#1 fan right here >> i was there for the whole set > being the speed garage fan that i am !!! I watched an hour and fifteen minutes of honestlly the sickest speed garage set ive seen in van in a while !! only person that could peel me away from scottys speed garage set!!! all i can say is its to bad all this shiit happened . but for me reid speeds set was the set of the night 4 me >>WITHOUT A DOUBT!!!!
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I think its best at this point that any other promoter think twice about posting in this thread at this point.... Word gets around ya know...
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Old Aug 21, 06
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i think it's good that she posted that here. embellished story or not, there was a lot of rumours flying around and it's nice to hear the story from someone who was involved. i read the post as coming from someone who was angry about what happened to her and is going to write it in an angry way...even if she did put a few swear words in people's mouths, the part that counts is still true.
She dropped and added some huge parts to her story.....

Which I think goes to speak about her credibility. Swear words have nothing to do with it.
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^^ b0ld -- I assume your post is directed at me. Let me make it clear here for you FnKers... I'm not taking sides as I don't know all of the situation.

I posted to Reid for 2 reasons: 1.) so she knows who I am as clearly she didn't remember and 2.) For everyones benefit, I wanted to make sure she understood our conversation.

I already chatted with Josh and Kristine after that and as I was leaving, Kristine even thanked me for trying to help out.
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YA 4 SURE>>#1 fan right here >> for me reid speeds set was the set of the night 4 me >>WITHOUT A DOUBT!!!!

YA IT WAS!^^^
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She dropped and added some huge parts to her story.....

Which I think goes to speak about her credibility. Swear words have nothing to do with it.
i guess it just goes to show that in situations like this when anger is involved you can't fully trust anyone to give you the right information. what i meant was that the lack of payment and ejection from the party are the important things.
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I'd lock this thread but I need to fresh material to finish off my screenplay for 'Me, myself and Avana' :118:
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hahaha I believe Amy.......oops I meant Reid haha (sorry =P)
I think most is true, but a few things are exagerated.

but in josh's defence,.....that's just Josh
Josh and I used to hate eachother, because of our confrontations
Also Josh's main booking agent who he uses now, couldn't stand him either!
In fact at one point we almost sent some gangster type dudes to punch him out!

However as time went by I actually got to know Josh, and believe it or not he's a really genuine guy. I've never seen him do anything to actually purposely fuck anyone over.

I started working with him on a bunch of shows, and after a while the booking agent guy started working with him to. We all to this day get along great. He spazzes out on us all the time haha

But we've come to realize that, that's just Josh. He's nutty like that. Our trick is to make him eat. Then he calms down and everything is all good again haha

It's funny. Josh always spazzes and goes nuts, yet I trust him more than most promoters in Vancouver. I take trust pretty seriously so those words shouldn't be taken lightly.
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Old Aug 21, 06
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i guess it just goes to show that in situations like this when anger is involved you can't fully trust anyone to give you the right information. what i meant was that the lack of payment and ejection from the party are the important things.
She was ejected after Josh had gotten jumped inside the party. Which she did nothing to prevent.

She was also going to get paid, until she unleashed her diatribe of insults towards Kristine, which didn't aid her case.

I have no doubt that she will get paid. But her unwillingness to calm down and continue to fling insults is what got her where she is now.
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i only heard two dnb tracks played right at the end > thats about the time i went back over to catch the end of scottys set .
 


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