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^^Um, to the ladies above who are giving the "DON'T GO THERE!", no one's dissing the quality of t5s (not that I've noticed), but if we're talking about tna being played out, then triple five soul is way up there in that category too.
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^ tna usually retail for about $110-$120
lulu usually vary from $75 - $110 but, if you're looking to save money on the EXACT same product, buy the Song stuff from Off the Wall. It's the exact same DuPont Lycra (Supplex), it may even be slightly thicker, and the pants usualy go for $65 (at least they did when I was still working there). |
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T5S comes out with new styles, designs, and great different product each season! TnA and Lulu have been mass-producing all the same styles for the last three or four seasons, the only thing they do is change the colours! Triple Five takes their basic sweatshirt cut and does all new embroidery or all new screens each season. The duplicate Triple Five styles that you may see from season to season are actually usually from the season before, buyers get them cheaper so they're inclined to repeat an old style because they can still charge full price on it, yet they get a discount on the wholesale! |
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But just cause you brought up the topic of tna I'm going to regurgitate what I know. Despite what you believe, tna doesn't mass produce every one of their items from season to season, simply changing their color. They are a "street-fashion" brand who, similar to t5s, carry a variety of clothes that accords with the season's fashion.. such items include jeans, skirts, baby-tee's tanks, track-suits, winter-coats, jackets, pants. anything. However, they DO carry certain items regularly (timeless trends) because they're the store's basics that tend to sell well regardless of current fashion. (ie-supplex, talula shirts) Perhaps you think that they produce only a certain style because you don't notice as much when a girl's not wearing a scuba supplex suit. I'm not anti-t5s or pro-tna, nor am I much of a fashion-junkie.. but retail experiences kinda turns you into one.. |
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sorry for bringing that topic up. i was just directing it towards the supplex suits in how they are "mass produced", no matter how many new styles they come out with (which they do), they're still VERY similar..color change, different stitching, etc. however taking triple five soul hoodies, every single season they are REALLY different than the last... they have blown me away with the style change season after season.. especially the current line compared to the winter line. (take this summer line and compare it to last summers line....extremly different).
i dont know if its me or what but if i see a triple 5 soul item that i like id comtemplate in buying it right away because sizes/stock flys... compared to the tracksuits, i know that all the aritzia would most likely have it, and there's no hurry to purchase it right away. (seems like the rack never gets empty). yoko has artizia knowledge, so i dont wanna argue with her. |
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TnA is a HOUSE BRAND PRIVATE LABEL that does mass produce and grossly over-charge, especially concerning the Supplex suits! 100% markup my ass, that's the biggest lie in the industry. I work for a wholesaler and I see what the prices on Supplex REALLY are...seriously, the TnA pants that retail for $120 are wholesaled at about $20/pair!!! The supplex suits are NOT a timeless trend, they're completely and utterly disposable! An example of something Aritzia carries close to a timeless trend would be the Talula 90/10 scoop neck...a style that Aritzia has carried forever, and probably will carry forever. It's the same thing at any other store; when I worked for OTW we had styles (T-09, T-09V, T113 etc) that I had purchased pieces in when I was 12 years old! I don't see how you can call something that's been around since Fall 2002 "timeless", it hasn't even been two years! Take a look a velour, as an example. During Fall 2000/2001/2002 it was the biggest thing, so EVERYONE bought outfit after outfit after outfit...now it's totally played out and you hardly see it anywhere. My single velour outfit sits in the closet, lonely - sorry velour suit, you're played! I'd say it's a safe bet that for Fall 2004 velour will be g-o-n-e like it should be - like any totally played out trend will be. The same thing will happen with Supplex, because it's becoming so easily accessible. The only reason that Supplex will stay around is for workout wear; people are going to get sick and tired of looking like clones walking down the street wearing the same damn TnA or Lululemon tracksuit as 10 of the 12 girls they walk by! I'm already sick and tired of seeing it and this crap has only been around for a couple of seasons. I give it til Fall 2005...MAYBE Spring 2006 - after then I hope to only see it at the gym, at the track, or in the yoga studio. |
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hahaha you're so passionate about cheap fashion all clothing brands are like that..nothing is timeless and there all marked up that much. Last edited by SEAN!; Mar 28, 04 at 08:22 AM. |
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^ not true that they're all marked up that way
Like I said, the Song Supplex suits are $65/pants and $70 or $75 for a jacket...the TnA suits are $100-$120 for pants and probably the same for a jacket (I don't know the exact amount)...yet they're both made by the SAME manufacturer, at the SAME cost to the buyer of each chain...so some businesses mark up their product by a higher percentile than others. And it's not 'cheap fashion'...it's the apparel industry, and I have a wealth of knowledge when it comes to this topic. |
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nat..u make me smile.
and to those who think this is a new invention or something, its not.. they're jazz pants now more popular known as yoga pants. they've been around foreverrr and now the supplex manufacter is just blingin, cuz yoga is the new hockey and girls love it cuz guys compliment their asses when their in it. pretty damn much. im predicting spring 2005. Last edited by bebu*funfun; Mar 28, 04 at 10:56 AM. |
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maybe if you read my post carefully you'd see that what I was trying to say wasn't that there AREN'T items that ARE mass duplicated from season to season, but that they also DO carry items that they create specifically FOR that season that they DON'T carry on to the next. I said this because you seemed to state with such confidence that everything in the brand was carried over and over. try reading this again: Despite what you believe, tna doesn't mass produce every one of their items from season to season, simply changing their color. KEY WORDS: "every one of their items" i didn't say that some weren't, and i said that those that are, are because there is a demand for it. I put supplex as part of the basics because I figure that there are a lot of people who actualy like to wear it for the purpose of excercise and not just as a fashion statement. (something which I found while working at the level of sales) You might be right about it not being timeless, (congratulations if you are) but don't let my fashion unsavvyness misdirect you from the actual point that was trying to get accross. Quote:
If you read over my post again, The only thing (the main thing) that I was saying was that from what I remember, tna does carry items that does accord with that season's fashion and not every item is duplicated from season to season. If you really really want and cared so much to prove otherwise, I'll try to remember a few SPECIFIC items from fall and summer collection 2003, but I highly doubt you do. Last edited by yoko*; Mar 28, 04 at 06:09 PM. |
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Yoko, I wasn't disagreeing with you when it comes to the mass-production issue! I'm only talking about items like the tna Supplex, French Terry (hoodies and sweat pants) and Poly Fleece.
My point in stating that TnA is a HB/PL is that the mark-up shouldn't be anything close to what it is. People are SUCKERS for paying that kind of money for PL stuff; if the average customer knew how the apparel industry works when it comes to mark-ups I think they'd think twice about paying $120 for a pair of pants at Aritzia when they could get almost the exact same item from another store (like BTB, OTW, etc), made by the exact same manufacturer, and wholesaled and almost the exact same price! My beef with Aritzia is that they purchase their private label items from the same manufacturers as Off the Wall, Plenty, Below the Belt, etc. yet they charge 1.5 to 3 times what those stores do for essentially the same product! The other thing that miffs me is that I've been told, and overheard as well, staff and management at Artizia tell customers that their markup is never more than 100% which is the biggest load of crap! As a consumer, I'm not an idiot, and I don't expect to be lied to. I actually put a complaint through to the head office and I never received a phone call back. Customer service = not there. I bet they didn't expect that I work for a division of one of their wholesalers and know EXACTLY what they buy their product off us for BUST-ED. |
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