Immigration Canada is a Joke

[smithnwest88]

This country needs to grow some balls and stand up against the war..

http://www.canada.com/national/story...2-22ec1b4545f6

[wum]

This is ironic. Canada is usually quite eager to take on any and all refugees (just as long as they're from the Third World). I think the criteria for 'oppression' can range from China's one-child policy to living under the Taliban regime. Why reject this guy?

[sidekick]

because it would probably anger our neighbours to the south.

[(val)Liam]

true... like we haven't pissed them off enough...

*shoots down another trade agreement*

[mapleleaf4ever]

Trade agrements would be better if we could attract more skilled labourers to our Job Skills Pool nationally.

[Sarah...]

canada wants people who are gonna bring $ to the econamy....
people with business...outstanding citizens..then if they got time they'll fit in a few people from third world

[wum]

Originally Posted by ssarahh

canada wants people who are gonna bring $ to the econamy....
people with business...outstanding citizens..then if they got time they'll fit in a few people from third world

then why aren't we taking more immigrants from western Europe

[impure]

makes sense.
he dosn't qualify for refugee status though.
but if the judge really wanted to make a statement to bush about canadas views on his holy fucking war then granting him and his family refugee status into canada would be a good way to do it.

[diva]

Originally Posted by wum

then why aren't we taking more immigrants from western Europe

you obviously don't know how the immigration's point system works
yet another ignorant reply by the neighborhood biggot

[wum]

Originally Posted by diva

you obviously don't know how the immigration's point system works
yet another ignorant reply by the neighborhood biggot

Western European countries have a higher level of development than, say, vietnam or bengladesh. Wouldn't the former integrate better into mainstream Canadian society as opposed to people from the Third World who are generally poorer and have a very different culture?

Just think about it practically for a minute.

edit: the point system should be revised to give greater priority to more developed countries.

[diva]

Originally Posted by wum

Western European countries have a higher level of development than, say, vietnam or bengladesh. Wouldn't the former integrate better into mainstream Canadian society as opposed to people from the Third World who are generally poorer and have a very different culture?

Just think about it practically for a minute.

edit: the point system should be revised to give greater priority to more developed countries.

the point system has very little to do with what country you're from

you get a certain number of points for how much money you're bringing into the country, how much education you have, what job skills you have, if you already have relatives in the country (wich can help you integrate into the country a lot easier).

the rest of the spots are for refugees
you don't have to believe this, but i think it's the duty of every well developed nation to let in a certain number of people from this category each year

you should check out more info on the subject

[DJ Ponz]

Send the bugger home. He knowingly and voluntarily joined the US military. When you do that, you're most likely going to see action one way or another. He swore an oath to carry out the orders of the commander in chief, no matter how retarded that man may be. The fact of the matter is that he's breaking contract by dodging his dutiful service, and Canada should not and cannot be a haven for people like this.

What message would this send to our troops? Military discipline is what it is for a reason, and our country shouldn't be a way out for an ally's deserter.

[wum]

(edit: for Diva^) well something's fishy because I have friends in the UK that work in the pharmaceuticals industry who have tried to get into Canada for the last three years.

And yet I know people who are civil servants who tell me about "chain immigration" where the country takes on a 75 year old Indian man only to pay for his pension. Yes, that's only anecdotal but it does happen.

Even if it's as fair as you've described, why are third world immigrants still vastly overly represented in terms of immigration... when it should be the other way around?

[diva]

go to the statscan website and post relevant links please
i take anectodal evidence to be the gospel truth

until you can do that, STFU
seriously
reading your posts hurts my soul sometimes

[m0e]

As a person who used to work as an officer for Canada Immigration, this issue is a joke

I seriously can't cry for some US deserter worried about being jailed or facing a court martial because he doesn't believe in the war.

America is still an arguably civilized country that doesn't inflict torture or danger to people's lives due to their beliefs and life choices. I'm sure that several groups in the US would help fund his plea and even finance extreme measures to ensure his safety like location/identity change.

If you want to talk about Rwandan massacre survivor, an Palestinian insurgent or someone who is to be deported to Colombia or Honduras to get killed after they get off the plane, now we're talking.
No one is saying that the Canadian immigration or refugee procedures are fair or even sufficient, but seriously... Crying about an able-bodied man afraid to return to an America is the least of Canada's refugee concerns.

Buddy is able to go home and get in line, just like everyone else who wants to immigrate to Canada. Appeal to the minister even, just don't take up a spot for someone who is really in dire straits

[wum]

Originally Posted by diva

go to the statscan website and post relevant links please
i take anectodal evidence to be the gospel truth

until you can do that, STFU
seriously
reading your posts hurts my soul sometimes

you don't really mean that

[stephen_c]

Originally Posted by wum

(edit: for Diva^) well something's fishy because I have friends in the UK that work in the pharmaceuticals industry who have tried to get into Canada for the last three years.

And yet I know people who are civil servants who tell me about "chain immigration" where the country takes on a 75 year old Indian man only to pay for his pension. Yes, that's only anecdotal but it does happen.

Even if it's as fair as you've described, why are third world immigrants still vastly overly represented in terms of immigration... when it should be the other way around?

"vastly overly represented" ?
it was pointed out to you very clearly in this post

http://www.fnk.ca/board/showpost.php...5&postcount=31

that immigration in canada as a whole is pretty evenly distributed
with people from all parts of the world.

for the second time, from statistics canada:

Immigrant population by place of birth,
by provinces and territories (2001 Census)
http://www.statcan.ca/english/Pgdb/demo34a.htm

everyone please check it out for yourself.

also, from statistics canada:

Population by selected ethnic origins,
by provinces and territories (2001 Census) [counted by responses]
http://www.statcan.ca/english/Pgdb/demo26a.htm

[miss.myra]

Originally Posted by wum

then why aren't we taking more immigrants from western Europe

Um, most of Canada's population descends from Western Europe.

[impure]

Originally Posted by miss.myra

Um, most of Canada's population descends from Western Europe.

but i was under the impression we are the minority now.

[wum]

Originally Posted by stephen_c

Immigrant population by place of birth,
by provinces and territories (2001 Census)
http://www.statcan.ca/english/Pgdb/demo34a.htm

everyone please check it out for yourself.

also, from statistics canada:

Population by selected ethnic origins,
by provinces and territories (2001 Census) [counted by responses]
http://www.statcan.ca/english/Pgdb/demo26a.htm

More legalese, since they came out with the slogan "Canada, a nation of immigrants" they are counting the general population as immigrants who have been established for generations.

What I'm talking about is CURRENT trends.

Go to any urban center like Metrotown and it's pretty obvious you're surrounded by non-English speaking first generation immigrants from Asia. Can you think of any major gathering points for Western European immigrants? Of course not, that wouldn't be 'diverse' enough

basically i'm saying there are too many chinese people

[miss.myra]

^Um, I grew up in a suburb around here where just about everyone there was white. I never even saw an asian person until I was in elementary school, probably 8 years old.


And metrotown isn't an urban centre, are you thinking Burnaby? There's a lot of white people in Burnaby, you might realize that if you look kind of well, beyond the mall :P

[mapleleaf4ever]

Originally Posted by miss.myra

^Um, I grew up in a suburb around here where just about everyone there was white. I never even saw an asian person until I was in elementary school, probably 8 years old.


And metrotown isn't an urban centre, are you thinking Burnaby? There's a lot of white people in Burnaby, you might realize that if you look kind of well, beyond the mall :P

heh heh sounds almsot like me. I lived on the Island and the North West Territories. I'd never seen a Black, Asian or East Indian person until I moved to Vancouver in 1994... I was 11 then. lol "Y'ALLZ GOT COLOURED FOLK?!?!"

[wum]

Originally Posted by miss.myra

^Um, I grew up in a suburb around here where just about everyone there was white. I never even saw an asian person until I was in elementary school, probably 8 years old.


And metrotown isn't an urban centre, are you thinking Burnaby? There's a lot of white people in Burnaby, you might realize that if you look kind of well, beyond the mall :P

not to open up a can of worms, but didn't you grow up in NS? plus i'm talking about current immigration policies which is just another NWO tactic to destroy the West. there i said it

[stephen_c]

well, i grew up in nanaimo.
in my elementary years,
i was 1 of 3 oriental persons in the school including my brother.
from 8 to 12,
i was 1 of maybe 4 or 5 oriental persons in the entire school.
yet i never felt out of place amongst white folks.

so it's somewhat of a disappointment to me
when i see certain white people get all nervous when amongst orientals.
if u look beyond color, there's really little difference.
we're all just people.

[wum]

away i say!