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So your saying precedent is set for gay guys to spread HIV because a bunch of effed up in the head african men are raping young girls causing hiv transmission. Thank god are laws aren't quite as bad as that........YET
WTF! Talk about not reading what I wrote!

All I was saying is that you can't say gays are 100% responsible for the spread of HIV. There's plenty of straight men that are helping with transmission.

You want statistics?

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...Of the approximately 52,000 reported rapes in 2003 - comprising a statistical calculation of 147 rapes per 100,000 of the population - about 21,000 or almost half, were perpetrated against children under the age of 18. This shocking figure is indicative of the appalling fact that between 58 and 60 children are raped on a daily basis in South Africa, with a significant number of these children aged 12 and under (Smith, 2004). The true extent of this horrific pattern of sexual violence is much more disturbing when it is taken into account that various estimates by credible organizations and NGOs estimate that only one in 20 incidents of rape are actually reported to the police...
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...Pervasive throughout South Africa , as well as other parts of Africa and the developing world, is a belief in the myth of the so-called “Virgin Cure,” a belief which, in essence, means that having sexual intercourse with a sexually inactive girl will cure infected men of HIV/AIDS and other sexually transmitted diseases or STDs...
Found here.

If you opened your eyes, you'd realize that there's bigger things going on in the world than whether or not 2 people in love (regardless of gender) can marry.

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The myth of the “Virgin Cure” has a rich and culturally diverse history stretching back to 16th century Europe and beyond. A more contemporary example can be found in 19th century Victorian England, where, despite the strong socio-cultural emphasis on sexual morality, religiosity, rectitude and family values, there was a widespread belief that sexual intercourse with a virgin girl was a cure for syphilis, gonorrhoea, and other STDs.
Found on the same page.

And what, pray tell, was the dominant religion religion in Europe then? Yeah...that's what I thought.

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isn't that mostly a black problem though
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isn't that mostly a black problem though
I'm going to quote myself here, just for you, wummy.

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The myth of the “Virgin Cure” has a rich and culturally diverse history stretching back to 16th century Europe and beyond. A more contemporary example can be found in 19th century Victorian England, where, despite the strong socio-cultural emphasis on sexual morality, religiosity, rectitude and family values, there was a widespread belief that sexual intercourse with a virgin girl was a cure for syphilis, gonorrhoea, and other STDs.
Where do they say it has its origins? What? Go ol' Anglican WHITE Britain? O_o
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I'm going to quote myself here, just for you, wummy.


Where do they say it has its origins? What? Go ol' Anglican WHITE Britain? O_o
That sounds like liberal reasoning to me: "Blame whites for everything."

From what I've read Africans raping babies usually gets official sanction from their shamans.

Just try and give me one example of this happening in Merry Olde England :)

Baby rapes shock South Africa

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Two men are due to appear at a court in Johannesburg on Tuesday, accused of raping a five-month-old girl who was discovered covered in blood and in tears. It is the latest in a series of rapes of baby girls - some of them involving children less than one year-old, which has left South Africans reeling with horror.

Every day the newspapers bring awful revelations: a nine-month-old girl gang-raped by six men; an eight-month-old raped and left by the roadside.

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It is also trying to dispel a widespread rumour - that having sex with a virgin cures Aids.

Traditional healers, or witchdoctors, are blamed for spreading this idea, and encouraging child rape.

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If you opened your eyes, you'd realize that there's bigger things going on in the world than whether or not 2 people in love (regardless of gender) can marry.

Really .........Listen up I think your talking to the wrong person about that. I know a lot more of whats going on in this world then you do I can guarantee that. And don't even get me started on that one.
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Hey Wum.........you too, you better open your eyes theres bigger things going in this world you know.
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Predicting the future....

Well you can't say the idea of gay marriage isn't having an effect.
One of my own family members told me he doesn't think he'll bother
marrying because if even the gays can, he doesn't think it holds any
significence as an institiution.

So there you go, an effect right in my own family, now how can we
predict what will happen in society at large.
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Hey Wum.........you too, you better open your eyes theres bigger things going in this world you know.
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Well you can't say the idea of gay marriage isn't having an effect.
One of my own family members told me he doesn't think he'll bother
marrying because if even the gays can, he doesn't think it holds any
significence as an institiution.

So there you go, an effect right in my own family, now how can we
predict what will happen in society at large.
but how will it effect people that aren't stupid?
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i had to switch accounts to give you karma:silly:
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i had to switch accounts to give you karma:silly:
haha, i noticed!

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Really .........Listen up I think your talking to the wrong person about that. I know a lot more of whats going on in this world then you do I can guarantee that. And don't even get me started on that one.
Conspiracy theories don't count as "knowing what's going on in the world", sweetheart. :)

PS -+> I love how that was the only part of what I said that you latched on to.
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Conspiracy theories don't count as "knowing what's going on in the world", sweetheart. :)

PS -+> I love how that was the only part of what I said that you latched on to.
Yup, and its so hard to believe that the Bush administration would ever do such a thing as 911 right. Just like Hitler didn't burn his own reichstag to blame it on the Communist and declare Martial Law....oh wait a second he did do that But if history repeated itself you wouldn't notice would you, nahh its a conspiracy theory right. Just like how NORAD (North American Aerospace Defense Commands) stood down on Sept 11 for the first time in its 43 year history and did nothing about 4 jet airlines when if any other planes went off track for more then 10 min you would have stealths surrounding you. But no, lets not look at any of the facts. The United States is already living in a Military based, facist society, with every thing they do recorded by the state. But you don't have to worry cause you guys are good little citizens right. Bet you didn't know the United States patriot act can be used in Canada tho did you.... I give up with you guys, you guys are too strung up on drugs to care anyways

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I give up with you guys, you guys are too strung up on drugs to care anyways
oh there's an intelligent way to end a debate; accusing fnkers of being hopped up on drugs all the time is so old, especially because everyone knows it's not true.

edit: also, that's just a cheap way of getting out of a debate with someone. no one accused you of being strung up on drugs when they were arguing with you about gay marriage. way to go!

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oh there's an intelligent way to end a debate; accusing fnkers of being hopped up on drugs all the time is so old, especially because everyone knows it's not true.

edit: also, that's just a cheap way of getting out of a debate with someone. no one accused you of being strung up on drugs when they were arguing with you about gay marriage. way to go!
Hey Jake! Let's go do some DMT and find out what God thinks of people like Wum and Franco!
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Hey Jake! Let's go do some DMT and find out what God thinks of people like Wum and Franco!
should i do DMT if i'm already on acid and rollin' on E-bizzombs?!

ah whatever! bring it on!
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should i do DMT if i'm already on acid and rollin' on E-bizzombs?!

ah whatever! bring it on!
GO HARD OR GO HOME!
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Well you can't say the idea of gay marriage isn't having an effect.
One of my own family members told me he doesn't think he'll bother
marrying because if even the gays can, he doesn't think it holds any
significence as an institiution.
Marriage isn't a fucking institution.

It's a proclamation of love.

If your friend doesn't understand that, then he definately shouldn't get married.
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Old Jun 14, 05
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but how will it effect people that aren't stupid?
Hahaha

*sigh* You should just get auto-karma from me for each post.

Until we start arguing.

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