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Old Apr 25, 06
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He got choked as a result of people being assholes, not because he's an idiot. He may not know all the posters, so he reacts to words, and most of the words directed to him where either glib, fecicious, or all out stupid

Ease up on the guy.
Fable, I recently got bad karma from Mangle calling me a "Fucking Racist Cunt". I gave him bad karma not because I didn't believe in what he was saying, but because of his approach.

Mangle only seems to perpetuate the same hate he is trying so hard to fight against. When someone doesn't agree with his opinion, he calls them names, curses them out, or generally abuses them. People are just treating him the way he has been treating everyone else on this board since he got here.....
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Old Apr 25, 06
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Fable, I recently got bad karma from Mangle calling me a "Fucking Racist Cunt". I gave him bad karma not because I didn't believe in what he was saying, but because of his approach.
Bad karma is bad karma. I mean, you gave me bad karma for this post: "Did any of you actually listen to the AUDIO COMMENTARY you are so vehemently defending? No, didn't think so. Typical."
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When someone doesn't agree with his opinion, he calls them names, curses them out, or generally abuses them. People are just treating him the way he has been treating everyone else on this board since he got here.....
Wrong. I give an opinion, then I get personally attacked, then I defend myself. Since when did you voice your opinion on the subject of racism? You just gave me bad karma for asking people if they actually listened to what they were defending. You never actually said anything. So how then, pray tell, could I be disagreeing with your non-opinion?

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Old Apr 25, 06
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Ah yes, the tried and true, "ignore it and it will go away" Racism isnt actaully a global problem its only fodder for self righteous types, right?
ignoring a magazine that tries too hard to be "controversial" in nature and printing racists/offensive snippits and quotes in order to garner readers and reactions is completely different from ignoring racism itself.
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gusto is a racist gangbang too.
pick on him more.
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Old Apr 25, 06
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gusto is a racist gangbang too.
pick on him more.
Is he? He seems like a pretty good guy from my experiences with him. No one who likes edIT can be evil.
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Old Apr 25, 06
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Bad karma is bad karma. I mean, you gave me bad karma for this post: "Did any of you actually listen to the AUDIO COMMENTARY you are so vehemently defending? No, didn't think so. Typical."Wrong. I give an opinion, then I get personally attacked, then I defend myself. Since when did you voice your opinion on the subject of racism? You just gave me bad karma for asking people if they actually listened to what they were defending. You never actually said anything. So how then, pray tell, could I be disagreeing with your non-opinion?
The reason you got personally attacked in this thread is because of your past attacks in other threads on people for not agreeing with you. You get what you give. And just because you get bad karma, doesn't mean you have to give it back out. I didn't agree with your approach to get peoples attention, and I chose a random post in the thread, when I didn't agree with the whole thread. I could have pointed it out, but I didn't.

Your response was to call me something I wouldn't call my worst enemy. I get bad karma, and I don't hand it back out. I hand it out when I feel it is justified.

As far as having an opinion on this thread, I agree with what everyone has said so far. It is a magazine that prints controversial stuff to ruffle feathers and they got you, hook, line and sinker.

Just because people here don't agree with your opinion on the magazine hardly makes them racist.
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Is he? He seems like a pretty good guy from my experiences with him. No one who likes edIT can be evil.
i like edIT and im pretty sure you think im the hell spawn of lucifer.
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Old Apr 25, 06
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i like edIT and im pretty sure you think im the hell spawn of lucifer.
But you are.....
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Old Apr 25, 06
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As far as having an opinion on this thread, I agree with what everyone has said so far. It is a magazine that prints controversial stuff to ruffle feathers and they got you, hook, line and sinker.
Well, then you didn't read the thread. This has nothing to do with the printed words of VICE, except that they're edited by a huge racist named Jesse Pearson. This whole thing was about the AUDIO COMMENTARY in the original link, not VICE the magazine.
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i like edIT and im pretty sure you think im the hell spawn of lucifer.
No, we're good. I thought we laughed it off before. I just like you more now.

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Old Apr 25, 06
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Well, then you didn't read the thread. This has nothing to do with the printed words of VICE, except that they're edited by a huge racist named Jesse Pearson. This whole thing was about the AUDIO COMMENTARY in the original link, not VICE the magazine.
Wait....there was an AUDIO COMMENTARY to listen to?
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Old Apr 25, 06
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You aren't going to get rid of human instinct in a mere 50 years of civil rights protesting. It may have made open racism taboo in the Western world but whatever caused such racism to be created in the past is still a part of our society. We've just learned to keep our mouths shut around other races, lest we either get our asses beat or sued to hell and back.
>>Firstly racism is not human nature, not in terms of what is contemporary. Racism is a product of class disparity, and a strucuture to further perpetuate it. Asides from this, you first paragraph seems to hint that, racism is still around, which is in fact what mangle was getting at, so essentially you're being redundant/

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And racism goes both ways. Black folk can be even more racist than white folk, and let's not get into how racist some of the Natives up north can be. Some say they have every right to be racist to whites because our ancestors treated their ancestors brutally. But what about blacks being racist to Asians, whom have very little historical conflict between their cultures? When does the cycle end then? It doesn't. Truth be told, we'd all still be racist to each other even without decades of strife. As I said, it's human nature.
>>Once again, i call bullshit. You need to look at racism that has existed for decades upon decades, but mainly as a manifestation of power dynamics. Commenting on how racism is cross cultural does nothing to solve the issues, rather all it does is trivialize peoples endevours to end it. Of course everyone is racist, but what is the core, where did a specific case originate? Why? Natives up North? Give me a fucking break, their oppression never ended. To say their angst is simply because of historic oppression is a gross fallacy. Historical realities are used to connect to current realities, thus communicating the legitemacy of a trend of racism or oppression.

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The only way such racism will be eradicated will be when every human being on this planet can see past the .238% DNA differences that give us our outward appearences and are united as one species. Of course, that only seems to happen when an intergalactic menace from Dimension X comes to wipe us out, if we are to believe the movies.
>>The only way racism ends is to take away the dynamics surrounding material base. Take away the neccessity for there to be inequality (ie. capitialism) and perhaps we might have a chance. MIGHT

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Still, we are making small steps through understanding one another. As a result of such measures, if a racist remark is made, sometimes it's in jest (often done amongst good friends of different race), or to provoke a negative reaction in someone. If you let that provakation affect you, then the racist will have won; don't let it affect you, however, and they're just empty words.
>>This idealogy was coined out of press dialogue involving white supremists. Dont let it effect you??? I can understand this in a short term landscape, where getting super mad or punching somebody out is destructive, but on a long terms scope, racism had caused and still caused serious emotional, mental and physical trauma that has literally robbed people of any quality of life. So "dont let it effect you" is really a glib, bullshit suggestion masking ones gross inability to be able to deal with something head on, and survive through it.

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You may not be able to change an opinion, but that doesn't mean you have to let it get to you.
>>Calling someone a cunt is never a good thing (after a few backhands from my moms when i was young - i got the point!) But empathy should never be discouraged. Instead lets go after the racist agitators in the first place. Its not that we should ignore racists, and therfore garner power, becuase there are millions of people who are adversley effected by this racism. Its about wiping out the people and structures that enable it. It isnt about Mangle going off, its about the fact he is going off on the wrong people. I believe in the mentality of humans as sheep at times, and this board, and others like it, pay tribute in large quantity to pack mentality, jumping on the ignorant bandwagon, and then passing it all off as humour, and blaming the person who was trying to talk about said serious issue in the first place. But all of this comes as a result of racism being accepted and fostered in higher levels.

Create the movement from the bottom. decapitate the head at the top, and rip out the bowels in the middle.

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Old Apr 25, 06
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Calling someone a cunt is never a good thing
Unless you're from Scotland. Those people own cunt. You've never heard the word until you've heard it from a Scotsman.
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Old Apr 25, 06
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Yeah, look at me fall. Actually, I'm writing an article on it for tinymixtapes. I'm doing something about it.
you're giving them free publicity? i stopped carrying their magazine in my shop, for a lot of reasons, mainly their delivery boy being a hipster fuckwad who refused to show up during our posted hours of business... but i never attempted to accomodate him because i stopped liking the content of the magazine and was just as happy not to have it around.

i'll be interested to check out your article, but i'm kind of doubting your ability to report objectively on this based on your reactions to people on the forum here. Not giving a shit about Vice does not equal racism.
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Old Apr 25, 06
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i'll be interested to check out your article, but i'm kind of doubting your ability to report objectively on this based on your reactions to people on the forum here.
GQ did a really objective article on Prussian Blue if you want to google it; they just present the facts. I, however, make no claims to objectivity. Funny and insightful, yeah, but not objective. I don't think you can be objective when writing music reviews. VICE obviously isn't objective. Besides, my article is a scathing dissection of Prussian White, the Blue Supremicist group (a mixture of fact and satire). I'll post a link when it's up on TMT. It'll prolly take a couple weeks to get up there. I'm on a third draft now.

I'm probably going to keep reading VICE after my subscription runs out. I'll be reading it differently, though. I used to look forward to it.
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Old Apr 25, 06
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Unless you're from Scotland. Those people own cunt. You've never heard the word until you've heard it from a Scotsman.
I am still unsure how this justifies you calling me a cunt....
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Old Apr 25, 06
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Well, then you didn't read the thread. This has nothing to do with the printed words of VICE, except that they're edited by a huge racist named Jesse Pearson. This whole thing was about the AUDIO COMMENTARY in the original link, not VICE the magazine.No, we're good. I thought we laughed it off before. I just like you more now.
May I suggest reading the title of your own thread?
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WHOA WHOA WAIT GUYS.

I think we've overlooked something...
Let me get this straight...
AUDIO?
COMMENTARY?!?!?!

Well paint me pink and call me a cunt.

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Old Apr 25, 06
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Funny and insightful
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ooooh. my stomach muscles hurt....
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Old Apr 25, 06
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bwa ha ha ha HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

ooooh. my stomach muscles hurt....
Thanks for proving my point. Laughter is the language of the soul. Pablo Neruda said it.
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Old Apr 25, 06
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You aren't going to get rid of human instinct in a mere 50 years of civil rights protesting. It may have made open racism taboo in the Western world but whatever caused such racism to be created in the past is still a part of our society. We've just learned to keep our mouths shut around other races, lest we either get our asses beat or sued to hell and back.

And racism goes both ways. Black folk can be even more racist than white folk, and let's not get into how racist some of the Natives up north can be. Some say they have every right to be racist to whites because our ancestors treated their ancestors brutally. But what about blacks being racist to Asians, whom have very little historical conflict between their cultures? When does the cycle end then? It doesn't. Truth be told, we'd all still be racist to each other even without decades of strife. As I said, it's human nature.

The only way such racism will be eradicated will be when every human being on this planet can see past the .238% DNA differences that give us our outward appearences and are united as one species. Of course, that only seems to happen when an intergalactic menace from Dimension X comes to wipe us out, if we are to believe the movies.

Still, we are making small steps through understanding one another. As a result of such measures, if a racist remark is made, sometimes it's in jest (often done amongst good friends of different race), or to provoke a negative reaction in someone. If you let that provakation affect you, then the racist will have won; don't let it affect you, however, and they're just empty words.

You may not be able to change an opinion, but that doesn't mean you have to let it get to you.
Racism isn't a "natural" phenomenon, it's a learned behaviour from society, culture, family, etc. Put a bunch of babies in a room of all different ethnicities and colors and they'll interact the same way if it were all one race. Prejudice, racism, the demarkation of the "other" is purely societal.
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Thanks for proving my point. Laughter is the language of the soul. Pablo Neruda said it.
Ironic how the first time you've actually made me laugh was by calling yourself "funny and insightful".
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Ironic how the first time you've actually made me laugh was by calling yourself "funny and insightful".
I didn't say I was, my writing is. Check this out for more huge laughs: http://www.aranta.net
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I've read shit you've written before, and that was what I was talking about.

Go take a cold shower.
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Old Apr 26, 06
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ignoring a magazine that tries too hard to be "controversial" in nature and printing racists/offensive snippits and quotes in order to garner readers and reactions is completely different from ignoring racism itself.
You dont give a magazine as much attention in terms of dealing with it/exposing it then lets say an african man nailed to a cross and set on fire, but at the same time you do not conquer something by just going after the extreme manifestations of said oppression, you have to destroy the environment as well.
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Old Apr 26, 06
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While all of you people sit here and argue all I'm doing is lamenting the fact that there is no actual gang banging in this thread...

and by gang banging I mean of the pornographic variety.... just to clear up any misconceptions.
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