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Old Oct 11, 06
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serato? cdj? ableton?

as some of you may know, mr. shaun global and i (alongside orbit) have decided to change our musical focus, and start playing more of our own tunes. to do so, however, we need an effective way to mix them with each other, while ideally having a free turntable to scratch and throw on acapellas.

i used to be strictly vinyl, but it has obvious limitations. what do you think to be the most effective and versatile way to bring our own tunes out to shows?
pros and cons?

thanks yall.

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Old Oct 11, 06
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depends on how much you want to go digital. If you just want to play your tunes once in a while in the mix, i'd just go CDJ. If you don't want to give up the vinyl feel and want to say save space on records or something, go serato. Ableton for DJing is kinda meh for me...
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depends on how much you want to go digital. If you just want to play your tunes once in a while in the mix, i'd just go CDJ. If you don't want to give up the vinyl feel and want to say save space on records or something, go serato. Ableton for DJing is kinda meh for me...
yea the cdj thing is what weve been doing, from time to time, but it lacks a) the vinyl feel and b) the versatility of ableton. plus wed like to be playing whole sets of our tunes, and cds just dont cut it. im torn between ableton and serato
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Old Oct 11, 06
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just get torq.... it rewires into ableton...
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Old Oct 11, 06
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i have CDJ's and just started to use them, and they work like a dream.

but if you want to be more portable, i would suggest serato, but that would constitute getting a laptop.

M-Audio also came out with an alternative to Serato just recently. give it a look see, its in the happenin hardware section.

ableton is also a very nice piece of software. but im pretty sure you would like using your hands more than a mouse.
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Old Oct 11, 06
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you could take the risk and be an early adopter of the new M-Audio thing.

The fact that it re-wires into Ableton seems to fit perfect for you - however you'll need a pretty hefty system to utilize it to it's fullest - that and it's brand new so the kinks have't been worked out yet.

Serato is more of a pure vinyl emulation software so you won't really get much more out of it than being able to strictly mix your own tunes (and perhaps scratch acapellas or something).
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wow that "new m-audio thing" looks cool as all hell, but i dont get it. those two knobs are like the touchpads on a cdj? im such a gearophob, please help
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i think their levels. but they have it at TomLee i think. if u wanna go check it out. its pretty cool.
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Old Oct 12, 06
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Sounds like you should check out Serrato+ Ableton or M-audio's Torq + Ableton. I also recommend adding a midi keyboard so that you can more easily trigger samples and effects. A buddy of mine uses Serrato w/ ableton running in the background. He also has an m-audio midi keyboard hooked up so he can trigger lickshots and samples during his performances. It's mint!!
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Old Oct 14, 06
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yea i just recently got the m-audio oxygen 8 midi controller keyboard, but im still trying to work out latency bugs. i think serato is whats happening first, then well se where it goes
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Old Oct 23, 06
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i've also considered serato as of late.
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Old Oct 23, 06
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cdj'ing, at least it's still dj'ing
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Old Nov 01, 06
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I've been using ScratchLive for two years now, I would never go back. Biggest advantage aside from being able to get tracks instantly via digital distribution, is
you can bring everything along with you and have an easy way to find things. Looking through cd and vinyl books is the most annoying thing. The only diffrence is you have to convert yourself into thinking of the actual artist/song names verses vinyl jacket pictures which takes a while.

I guess I'd consider going to CDJs if they were 1000mk3 and you would actually see the wave forms of the songs. However, you never know what type of crap you will get at a club or if they will have 2 of them. Most high end clubs will have two pioneers but there has been a lot of parties i've played where I get there i get promissed two, and low and behold there is only one. Scratch Live has always been a safe choice (minus trying to connect it on the fly, that just sucks).
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Old Nov 01, 06
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for me it's CDJs, Ableton is another thing, I like the portability but there's no actual live mixing going on, it's all pre-programmed and mixed else where
I see more clubs are adding CDJ1000MK3s to their setup, I'd use Ableton at home but I wouldnt DJ with it in a club just yet. Recently Max Graham and Zabiela for DJing have only used Ableton.
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