Copyrights!

[dj_soo]

well, when it comes down to it - it *is* illegal to be selling unlicenced mix CDs so really, Quest as a label owner can do whatever he wants with his tracks.

I just don't think it's really "destroying the scene" as he puts it (slanging mixtapes was a big reason that hiphop gained success) and I find it incredibly disappointing to see the smaller, independent labels go after their supporters like a major label suing an 11-year old downloading britney spears on kazaa.

[Wood]

^i think it's very telling as well that the guys making a stink about this are these small-potatoes breaks labels, while hip hop labels (who actually SELL records) have turned it to their advantage. i get the feeling Quest is enough of a legend in his own mind that he doesn't feel he needs the support of a few lowly non-internationally known DJs... but he might feel differently in a few years when he's flipping burgers instead of wax 'cause he alienated the last few kids to still be interested in his dodgy rave music.

[Jonny Dubbs]

lol... the tearout sound is starting to get kinda played now too... (IMHO)

[christoqher]

After kissing their ass' he threatens them.

This guys worse than a bipolar monkey.

[Wood]

Originally Posted by psidream

he just tried to turn it into a laugh and get away with it without bothering to say sorry to the artists whose tunes he didn't bother to license correctly...

it's malpractice i tell you! :devil1:

[Jonny Dubbs]

Legalities and ethics aside, I do think it’s kinda silly to sell a mix CD when you are relativity unknown DJ, seeing as its purpose should be to be used as a promotional tool to get bookings…. I personally would never put out $ for a mix, why would I when you can get them free online by the dozen… you would probably be better off to eat the cost.

heh, also just noticed he posted on tribe.... no one had anything to say...

[dj_soo]

^ I've paid for time many mixtapes in my time - some legitly licenced (the Solid Steel series comes to mind), some not-so-much (highly recommend Mike Relm's Radio Fryer). Hey, if the mixes are really good and reflect a great deal of skill and effort, I think they're totally worth the money. Granted, these tend to be mainly hiphop DJs...

[Jonny Dubbs]

Originally Posted by influenza

well dj's shouldn't... it's stupid.

Maybe you and Quest should get in touch with and berate Czech online in front of the entire scene, cuz he’s doing exactly the same thing.

LINK

I don’t know about all the mixes but im pretty sure Breaks Drugs & Rock'n Roll isn’t licensed....

[Wood]

mixtapes help vinyl sales... it's something i've observed first hand in my many years selling records. Most of the tunes i dig for, it's because i heard it on somebody's mix. it's not a difficult concept to grasp - unless you're a fucking retard, like DJ Quest.

funny how in this thread & the one on breakbeats.ca nobody has anything to say about the bootleg question. i'd really like to hear how some of these guys can justify selling illegal remixes while condemning people who use their tunes on a mixtape.

again, so i'm not misunderstood... i have a problem with neither.

[dj_soo]

i'm still waiting to hear an explanation as to how stealing a soundbite from a movie for your track and then selling thousands of copies as a legal record release is only "a little bit illegal" whereas including a track in a mix cd selling maybe a hundred copies for peanuts is a whole lot of illegal.

[mekim]

i think someone should make a mix from all the bootlegs that quest, autobots, aquasky, etc have done & sell it for $10.

[Wood]

^no that would be wrong, you'd making money off of the hard work of the people who's hard work they're making money off of!

[diizy]

Originally Posted by Wood

^no that would be wrong, you'd making money off of the hard work of the people who's hard work they're making money off of!

but isnt that the same with a bootleg?

i thought it would be..

[Wood]

^sarcasm my friend...

[diizy]

Originally Posted by Wood

^sarcasm my friend...

ah, i had little idea, im slow.

[shift]

Originally Posted by dj_soo

i'm still waiting to hear an explanation as to how stealing a soundbite from a movie for your track and then selling thousands of copies as a legal record release is only "a little bit illegal" whereas including a track in a mix cd selling maybe a hundred copies for peanuts is a whole lot of illegal.

The difference to me is that someone who adds a vocal sample to an original track is creating something musical, the music written is undeniably theirs, even if it has that 2 second clip of the matrix in it. Someone that mixes some breaks tracks together isn't creating anything, both the songs being mixed already existed and the only thing remotely unique is the way they are combined. (This obviously doesn't apply to turntablists, who do create original parts.)

[dj_soo]

^ it doesn't matter which you give more "artistic merit" to. They're both still illegal and theft. You can't argue one is "more illegal" than the other. In the eyes of the law it's both theft.

(Just for the record I don't agree with the law on either counts just playing devil's advocate).

[shift]

I'm not saying either one is more or less illegal, simply that those are the differences to me, and for those reasons in my opinion they aren't comparable.