Aphrodite- sicker than sick

[Filo]

I find it's easy for someone who doesn't listen/know jungle to listen to Aphrodite. Don't u guys think. If i was to say put on some Goldie, or Dieselboy. Most ppl that aren't into it just look all confused. But With Aphrodite, they actually listen to it. Same with Freaky Flow's first CD. Good introductory jungle

[Bitchin]

^^you have a point.. mainly cause some of his shit is anthems and diesel boy and glodie dont have anthems!

[Senior]

Originally posted by Filo:
I find it's easy for someone who doesn't listen/know jungle to listen to Aphrodite. Don't u guys think. If i was to say put on some Goldie, or Dieselboy. Most ppl that aren't into it just look all confused. But With Aphrodite, they actually listen to it. Same with Freaky Flow's first CD. Good introductory jungle

That is why if "Junglists" were smart they would tell people who are not into Jungle to go see him. The only reason that Junglists don't listen to Aphrodite, Freaky Flow and company is that they were already into that stuff a few years ago. For some reason though they often forget that FF and Aphrodite probably had a big part in there getting into jungle. It's all a progresion and if "Junglists" want to see there scene grow to support the regular bookings of heavy whieght jungle DJ's they have to support it all. Even if Aphrodite isn't the deepest music he rocks the party and sparks more interest in Jungle than Andy C, Shy FX and Dilanjah combined.

I think the one reason that DnB is a small scene in Vancouver is because of this. Feedback?

[Filo]

^^^^ he's right!

[Moon]

Originally posted by Bitchin:
^^you have a point.. mainly cause some of his shit is anthems and diesel boy and glodie dont have anthems!

i'd say aphrodite is popular not because he plays anthems... its because his tracks are just so simple and extrememly easy to appreciate on the dancefloor. a basic drumnbass beat, a big bassline to groove to, and some hip hop samples or whatever he uses. i'd say aphrodite doesnt play anthems at all.. more so his own tracks... which are anthems to his name since all his tracks pretty much sound the same. i dont have anything against him since he is unique.. but damn JUMP UP IS DEAD!! THERES ALOT BETTER STUFF OUT THERE NOW!! MOVE ONTO THAT! =)

now goldie always throws down the big uk massive anthems. heLL throw down his own refuge crew tracks but most of the time he'LL rinse out big anthems, since he has the hookups from all the uk producers.

dieselboy yes hes a different kind of dj. he showcases TIGHT creative mixing and flow with exclusive tracks from producers he works with (Tech Itch, Kaos etc) that nobody will get their hands on for ages. Once you see him live, i'm sure youLL appreciate complex drums and tighter mixing alot more =) if he wanted to, he could play a full out latest uk massive anthem set since he does revieve the tracks at the same time a dj like andy c does, but he chooses to go his own way and continue making his dj style unique... MAD MAD respects for dieselboy =)

[Filo]

Obviously. Dieselboy is the SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! His mixing is perfect. U can't even tell when he is mixing for christ's sake. Dieselboy is god!

[Moon]

Originally posted by Nolan Sr.:


That is why if "Junglists" were smart they would tell people who are not into Jungle to go see him. The only reason that Junglists don't listen to Aphrodite, Freaky Flow and company is that they were already into that stuff a few years ago. For some reason though they often forget that FF and Aphrodite probably had a big part in there getting into jungle. It's all a progresion and if "Junglists" want to see there scene grow to support the regular bookings of heavy whieght jungle DJ's they have to support it all. Even if Aphrodite isn't the deepest music he rocks the party and sparks more interest in Jungle than Andy C, Shy FX and Dilanjah combined.

I think the one reason that DnB is a small scene in Vancouver is because of this. Feedback?

you're right but that only applies to our little city vancouver.

drumnbass has evolved to something ALOT more complex and musical. It adapts probably the most musical aspects to it than any other electronic genre out there. i'm not saying that its the best, i'm saying that it has a wider range of variety in styles and moods. cities like toronto have crazy crazy jungle scenes because they have dj crews like Vinyl Syndicate who rinse out brand new dubplates at the same time big uk djs do. vancouver unfortunatly doesnt at the present time, and once the anthems are released, EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DJ will buy it and play it and within a week, the song has been played out to its max.

wouldnt it be nice if we could all seriously look forward to going to a party to hear new music we've never heard before? to hear tracks that are due for release in the next year? damn... i wish vancouver could be like that.... but for now i guess we'd have to resolve to listening to freaky flow and aphrodite eh?

sad

[Senior]

(^) No not really...

[Senior]

K Pryde being negative does not help to build anything and that is why the DnB scene in Vancouver is so small. All the DnB kids have a rep as being snobs...

What I am saying is that you need more people to be interested in DnB to bring in all the big boyz on a regular schedule. It's not that Vancouver promoters don't have the hook ups it's that Andy C is to expensive for the amount of people he'll draw.

I think that in a lot of ways Vancouver as a city has the same attitude as a DJ that is really good but not that recognized. It wants to be (or in a DJ's case play) prime time with out paying it's dues. The reason that T.O. has the DnB scene they do is because it started out long before Vancouver and they have a larger population base to work from.

[Moon]

no not really waht?

[Moon]

nolan its not that i'm being negative.

its the music here.
have you been to another city with a solid drumnbass scene and really looked into it? youLL notice it describes what i just said above. i dont have anything against aphrodite and freaky flow. its just the fact that the jungle scene is so behind in vancouver compared to a city like toronto! jump up was in the past. it was great we all had fun. but theres much better, more evolved music out there being produced thats what i'm saying.

you cant blame me for being negative. i'm only saying this for the good of the scene in vancouver. i want it to be good. and if the scene wants to improve, why not improve the music? the social aspect of partying are great, but the musical aspects are MUCH greater... but honestly it is lacking here in vancovuer

[Filo]

I think u're missin nolan's point of the fact that Ahprodite style jungle is good to lure in future junglists. If they hear al the complex shit to start off they're goin to shy away from it because they don't understand it. Like I say to anyone who says they don't like jungle. "U'll eventually Learn!!!!!"

[Senior]

What you are not getting is that there has to be a much larger fan base of DnB to have the DJ's you want to see on a regular basis. If people who liked DnB would fill the Commodore on a weekly basis at $40 to $50 a head than Andy C and friends would be here all the time.

Acts like Aphrodite (who hasn't played jump up the last two times I've seen him) build up that fan base. If a promoter for a DnB night goes and shmoozes it up at Aphrodite "so you like DnB check out my night" they will interest new people in DnB.

Sorry to say but Vancouver is probably 3 or 4 years behind where you want it to be.

[Senior]

Originally posted by k-pryde:
no not really waht?

I don't think that listening to Aphrodite or company is sad. The music is good to dance to and there is always a good crowd out for an yof those guys.

Most people go to a club to dance, drink, socialize and listen to the music. For most people they will be satisfied in all those ways by Aphrodite and friends.

[manos_one]

Originally posted by k-pryde:
the social aspect of partying are great, but the musical aspects are MUCH greater... but honestly it is lacking here in vancovuer

WHAT YOU DISSIN US!@#!@#!@
*hits a bboy stance*

[jmzD]

Originally posted by SNowWhITe:
2 step jungle makes me wet.............. :PartEkid:

correction, JUMP UP not 2STEP, 2 step is a beat pattern, but if jump up makes you wet, i have a whole crate for you listening pleasure...

[Moon]

blah we're talking about different things now
haha

well i never said i hated aphrodite and ff lemme make that clear again

and yeah you're right that people would chose aphrodite over andy c.. and that makes me wanna cry =****(

and i know you're speaking on the current jungle "market" here in vancouver and thats fine. but all i want is dopeass mindblowing music. im not gonna bother typing what i truly feel cuz its gonna take too long

[Senior]

I think think that is good (^). I would like to see all those guys here as well... Shy FX, Andy C, Dilinjha, Lemon...

[manos_one]

martin instead of talking about all these problems with the van dnb scene / djs / music why not help us try to change them? guys like jay, matty , spexx , link and wood are out there everday trying to get shit going. it be nice if we could have a hand, fuck im even out there flyering.

[Senior]

(^) My point exactly!!!! Do something about it!! With all the people that complain about the Vancouver scene lacking we would have an army of flyer people (the PC term) to spread the word.

[Moon]

Originally posted by manos_one:
martin instead of talking about all these problems with the van dnb scene / djs / music why not help us try to change them? guys like jay, matty , spexx , link and wood are out there everday trying to get shit going. it be nice if we could have a hand, fuck im even out there flyering.

haha i should =) good idea!

[NinjaBoy]

for whoever gave me the bad karma

Hardcore is for anal bleeding faggots

You are correct.

Good hardcore makes my anus bleed.
Faggots? Well, if that's your thing and you anus bleeds...

[cubed]

Jump Up jungle entertained me for a whole of five minutes, you can only listen to the same bassline in every single track for so long.

cubed

PS - The same applies for speed garage.

[cubed]

And as for Nolan's comment about the DnB community being snobs, I wouldn't say that's true, I'd just say that a lot of them are too ignorant to explore other genres of music.

cubed

PS - Notice that I said "a lot", not "ALL"

[Senior]

(^) I didn't say they were snobs. I said they have a reputation as being snobs. There is a big difference.