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Old Aug 25, 02
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A DnB track I wrote today



Leader of the Huns - Sir K

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I think it sounds kinda cool. :) Lemme know what you think.
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Old Aug 25, 02
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yah I'm not really a big DnB fan so if any DnB'ers could tell me if it was crappy DnB or not i'd be grateful

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Old Aug 25, 02
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what program did you use to make this?
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Old Aug 25, 02
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First, there is NO BASS. It isn't a drum'n'bass song if there is no bass.


Secondly, you've looped one sample through the entire song. It's nice to use a sample once or twice in a song. Think of a sample as pepper, you only want to put a little bit on, or it leaves a bad taste.

If you don't like a genre of music, what's the use in making it? If you try to make something of a particular genre you're into, it might end up sounding fairly decent.

(sorry..you asked for opinions)

M
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Old Aug 25, 02
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i have a 12 inch sub so I hear bass. on smaller speakers maybe you cant hear it.. :-\
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Old Aug 25, 02
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marty I used fruityloops
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Old Aug 25, 02
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eh...fruity loops...that doesn't come as much of a suprize..

I find it's hard to make a *good* quality produced song with that program. However, it is easy to use so it's a good stepping stone I suppose.
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Old Aug 25, 02
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I just started today that's the first track I have written on it.
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Old Aug 25, 02
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myra you'd be surprised at what you can pull off with fruity loops. Concord Dawn used fruity loops for Morning Light (and other programs i beleive)

as for this track. its a good beat, but you've only looped one basic beat, the riff is very simple, the *powww* sample that kicks in 2 mins in doesnt really fit the mood in the song...

and the layout is very irregular...
its a very simple track... hehe sorry but you have alot of work to to.
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Old Aug 25, 02
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man go download the demo of "reason" its a million times better then fruity loops. just find a crack for the demo, its not to hard to find
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Old Aug 25, 02
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*cough* logic
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Old Aug 25, 02
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i tried to make it using climactic / classical timings because of the gregorians and the dark ages theme... If it seems different than standard dnb timings that would most definitely be why. I worked toward the cresciendio in 16 bar advances, which is standard for house but I'm not so sure for DnB

Its kinda like DnB for people who like house... lol I guess.
=) Thx for the feedback

btw_
I tried Reason and it seemed very powerful, but I trashed because it was (IMO) totally useless without a MIDI keyboard. And I dont really like the interface. Not to say that FL is better than Reason, because I know thats no true, but at this point I'm sticking with FL because its more fun to compose with.
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Old Aug 25, 02
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you can do a lot of stuff on reason without a midi controller, the controller just makes things a bit easier to do, and basically adds another layer to an already powerful piece of software.

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Old Aug 26, 02
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^^ werd i dont have a midi keyboard i bounce back and fourth from logic and reason use mostly logic , reason is very easy to use. just gotta take some time to figure it out. i like logic most. But you gotta watch out how u use reason cause anyone can just cut and paste pre programmed loops.
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Old Aug 26, 02
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i'm curious. what exactly is logic? A loopmaker or something?
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Old Aug 26, 02
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Reason will give you the best insight to how a studio works, then move on to Logic.

many top producers use Logic
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Old Aug 26, 02
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Reason useless without a MIDI keyboard? PLEASE. The Redrum drum machine is like your entire Fruity Loops program, and it's only one module of the Reason program. Also, for the synthesizers, just open up a Matrix unit, and you can click in the notes you want to play and velocity you want to play them at so easily.

Logic is a sequencing/audio recording program, in the same category as Cubase or Nuendo. You can record live audio tracks, or import audio from wav or MP3 files (this is good for grabbing samples from your favourite music). You can also program MIDI sequences. For those of you who don't quite know what MIDI is, it is not actually music, it is an asynchronous, 8-bit serial communications protocol. This in plain English means it transmits messages to your sequencer (whether it's a hardware sequencer or in your computer) which tell it what note to play, how hard to play it, how long to play it for. But these messages are not played by any instrument - in fact the cool thing about MIDI is that you can change which instrument plays these notes. So in a program like Logic/Cubase/Nuendo, you could play in these MIDI notes (either on a keyboard controller, or by manually drawing them in with your mouse in the included MIDI editor) and then assign the MIDI channel to your synthesizer. In programs like Logic/Cubase/Nuendo, you can install software synthesizer programs!! So you can use all those as different instruments.

The interface of the program has different channels, or "tracks", for each audio track (wav file), MIDI track and so forth. You can use different effects on each track (echoes, delays, reverbs). You can program in surround sound. You can also take Reason and slave it to Logic/Cubase/Nuendo.. which means that it acts as a secondary program, and anything you do in either program will keep the same tempo and be on the same bar as the other one!!

A really good setup is to use Logic/Cubase/Nuendo as your master program, run Reason as the slave program (and use it for synths, basic step programming etc), and download a whole bunch of software synths to be loaded in your master program. I have a software synth called the Junglist that is pretty much exclusively designed for making those nasty, growly sub bass sounds - and much cheaper than buying an entire hardware synthesizer dedicated to that!


Heh, TMI I guess, sorry... but if anyone cares to know more.. you can ICQ me. =)

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Old Aug 26, 02
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The new version of reason has a second Synth you can use
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Old Aug 26, 02
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Quote:
Originally posted by manos_one:
*cough* logic
hehem sonar 2.0
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Old Aug 26, 02
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Hey guy's I just wanted to remind everyone that making dance music is not just about writing/programing/sequencing (that's the easy part, well except when u don't have writter's block=(). You also have to take into account the technical side of things, such as compression. A well written track is nothing without taking care of the technical stuff, but then again all the technical know how(which u defenitly need an ear for, and a good pair of studio monitors) doesn't matter if your writting isn't up to par.
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Old Aug 26, 02
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Quote:
Originally posted by miss.myra:




If you don't like a genre of music, what's the use in making it? If you try to make something of a particular genre you're into, it might end up sounding fairly decent.

(sorry..you asked for opinions)

M
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Old Aug 26, 02
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My final post for this thread=)

Jungle is the toughest genre to produce!
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Old Aug 27, 02
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wow.

And all I was looking for was whether anyone thought the track sounded cool

Thanks for your input everybody. I'm impressed this thread brought out some of our high-end DnB producing/spinning locals like Manos and Ill-e-sha.

A final note: Nobody has to sell me on the idea that there are better programs out there than FL. I'm using FL because it's fun to compose with. I posted this song up to share it with everyone, I thought it was a good track with a good grove to it, and a helluva good re-start after not writing tracks for 6 years.

The reason I chose DnB instead of a music more my favour, like NRG is because of both as Spill said (experience) but also because I find when learning a new program it's easier to learn it's ins and outs writing something you have less emotional attachment to, in my particular case, DnB. Otherwise when I try to write something that sounds good for the first time I go crazy because I want to make all sorts of advanced sounds I dont know how to do yet.

In this case the song was simple, and had a real nice punch. :)
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Old Aug 27, 02
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i thought it was boring.

if i was listening to it in the record store i would have passed it up pretty fast.

it didnt have anything in it that even remotely stood out to me or that i hadnt heard in 4 million other dnb tracks. and the only hook that you had to it (the vocal sample) you overused thus rendering it more annoying than anything.
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Old Aug 27, 02
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you say that was yur 1st time??? Then there ya go ya got the basics, heres a tip cut some of the samples, then change up a new bar @ evrey 8 bars, eg. 11111111211111111211111111....
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