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Nov 17, 02
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If a DJ uses a computer...
to mix the tracks he picks instead of doing it live then is the set still really 'mixed' by him?
This has been a small topic of discussion in relation to Mr. Oakenfold. Wicked track selection, but a computer does all the mixing for him. 
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Nov 17, 02
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^yep exactly
but is this a proven fact that the computer does all the mixing for oakenfold? mixing on the computer still requires counting beats, and proper control with the volume levels so technically you still need basic understanding to pull off a seamless computer mix... but interesting topic..... this also has been a topic for drumnbass djs. for example the moving shadow mix cds done by timecode, many people are claiming that timecode just used a computer to pull off the mixes.... just curious if this is an actual fact. but the art of mixing is one thing u can only go so far compared to the art of programming and track selection....
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Nov 17, 02
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It is been stated that he does not mix the tracks on some radio broadcasts and that a computer does the mixing for him.
To clarify... I didn't say that he does the mixes on a computer. All he does is pick the tracks and a computer program blends them together, he does NO MIXING on the computer itself. This is why some of the transitions between tracks takes so long to cut over.
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Nov 17, 02
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One set in question is Oakenfold - State Side Live 9/11/2002
Great track selection and perfect mixing.
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Nov 17, 02
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yeah i have a set from creamfields 99 with oakenfold and it has to be the best set i have EVER heard from him. his mixing iLL admit could of been better tho...
oh well not many people are born with such an ear for good tracks like oakenfold...i still have mad respects for him
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Nov 17, 02
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Martin, you're bang on about the creamfields 99 set, top 3 trance sets of all time for me, possibly #1.
Oakenfold's mixing is horrible, no one will really argue against that. Sometimes he has decent sets, most of the time they're pretty bad. He doesn't care though, neither do most of his fans, seeing as how the only people that really notice are snobs and/or djs like me =P Oakie's style is pretty lame these days IMO, he plays about half good tracks and half shit, but he's still really popular with a lot of people so who cares. In 99 he was a bigger DJ than any other DJ at any time, ever, and there was a reason for that. Take a look at his EM tour '99 tracklistings and you'll see why, it was the finest trance, weeks, months and sometimes years before anyone else got their hands on it.
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Nov 17, 02
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i think that most big name producers use a computer to make their mixed cds, but have you ever tried it? not me, but i've seen my friends try it and they said it is pretty hard. that brings me to the point of big name poroducers who have an engineer do all of their work for them (names have been ommitted to protect the guilty)...
you know its kinda funny, a few of the big names in seattle have actually been caught sequencing up their tracks in acid (viz beatmnapper) and bragging about how easy it is to fool the general population... fucking half rates... Last edited by jmzD; Nov 17, 02 at 07:50 PM.
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Nov 17, 02
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As I tried to clarify, I am speaking about a DJ that just picks tracks and lets a computer program do the rest.
I'm not questioning the simplicity/difficulty of using a computer to DO the actual mixing. At least the DJ is involved with the process this way instead of just loading up a piece of vinyl.
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Nov 18, 02
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lo kids, let me tell you something Traktor DJ Studio by Native Instruments is the most advanced DJ mixing software is the most powerful and versatile software solution for professional DJ mixing, live remixing and mix recording using tracks in MP3, WAV, AIFF, and Audio CD(*) format.
TRAKTOR DJ Studio 2.0 does more than provide all the functions of a classic DJ setup: it exceeds the possibilities of analog DJ equipment by implementing a vast range of mixing features that only software can provide. This includes graphic waveform displays, tempo recognition and automatic synchronization, up to 10 cue points and 10 tempo-precise loops per track, and a track database with ultra fast search function. 
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Nov 18, 02
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Nov 19, 02
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download any radio one set of his and you'll see that his tempo changes between song transitions and he'll usually do quick cuts as opposed to any long blends. On these sets his tempo will change drastically if you listen for it....so he's not even really "mixing" more like "fading" or "cutting" but he does pick really good spots to do them so if you arent paying avid attention it sound pretty good.
what i'm getting at is if you really wanna know if a set has been "engineered" is to look for tempo fluctations throughout the whole mix...a program or engineered mix will have none...the tempo should stay constant throughout the whole set, while a live set will most definately vary. As for Richie Hawtin he was one of the original final scratch beta testers and i believe is now using it exclusively...this thing is amazing you can do anything with mp3s that you can do with vinyl, yes even scratch, with no lag. and most cds will tell you if its a "compilation" (pre-picked engineer mastered set) or an actual live mix. Akeel.
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Nov 19, 02
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The great and all powerful Cyborg DJ Richie Hawtin uses Final Scratch. http://www.finalscratch.com/fs2/start.asp
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