Hard House / Nu NRG

[-evil-duerr-]

I still listen to some of the music I listened to when I was 15.... this stuff didnt make the cut tho...

I'm also glad I don't have to listen to anymore florida breaks..

[Senior]

and now onto something of real importance! this monkey can DJ!

[Senior]

Originally Posted by -evil-duerr-

I still listen to some of the music I listened to when I was 15.... this stuff didnt make the cut tho...

I'm also glad I don't have to listen to anymore florida breaks..

Florida breaks are funky. there's a lot of good stuff from then that I still hear once in a while.

DJ Icey - The Funky Breaks

[ebbomega]

I never even got into florida breaks, more nuskool later on for me. And even then only while high.

By the time UKHH and Speed Garage and Nuskool started all having mad sex on the dancefloor I was going through my bitter/jaded/reclusive phase. Didn't even start latching onto breaks until a couple years later.

[-evil-duerr-]

Originally Posted by Senior

Florida breaks are funky. there's a lot of good stuff from then that I still hear once in a while.

DJ Icey - The Funky Breaks

ha ha, ya I remember that track. we used to be all about that stuff, the huda hudia, tony faline, icey, baby anne etc.

my homeys back in jr.high school were spinning it, there crates were mostly florida breaks (and the old trance records they had yet to sell). They weren't buying new records all of the time, so the florida breaks shit they had got really played out after so many months of listening to the same records.. cuz all we did back then was smoke dope and spin/listen to records.

[Moon]

while in 98-99 trance was the dominant sound and as time went on, people wanted the bass kicks harder and faster as the appeal for trance slowly diminished.... then came the UKHH and NU-NRG sound which so many people were hungry for.... but seriously, every single party would be all nu nurg hard house. Vancouver was even the "capital of the world of hard house and nu nrg" for a bit. The music was SERIOUSLY overplayed. Just wow... I remember seeing a Sasha quote blaming hard house and nu nrg for the serious decline of the electronic music scene. I most definitely agree with him.

I do however remember loving 9 bar and Tony De Vit (RIP). The hoovers in NU NRG were pretty sick when I first heard em but the appeal was lost within a few months.

[Chuck]

I still have to say the classic trance years of 98-99 were the best. When NuNrg and hardhouse took over i think it really lost some of the feeling that the old stuff had. There is such a difference in the atmosphere between stuff i remember like....blank and jones cream or binary finary......or waves dj snowman etc..compared to the more repetitive hard thump of nunrg. Even the old genre hard trance still had some of that epic appeal to it. The old cheesy stadium trance had some feeling to it where the newer stuff was all boom and had very little of the feeling attatched to it. Hell i could say alot about the same as to what happened to rock music for a while. Its like what people say when comparing classic rock to mainstream current rock...just seems to have lost some of that true to heart feeling at some point. Not to say its all bad, just as there are some new bands out there that really have a good sound going, its just so much of it really doesnt stick on you, and is lost in the generic mumble jumble with the rest of the mainstream stuff.......

Maybe im being a bit over nostalgic, but I really believe the dying years of the 90's still produced the best hard 4-4 beat music ever.


*EDIT - Moon i just read your post and i totally agree, Nunrg filled that hard void for a while, but it quickly lost its appeal, while even to this day i can remembe tunes to the old trance classics. I hate to say it KILLED electronic, but it did somewhat do a nickelback to the music scene somewhat.

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by Senior

and now onto something of real importance! this monkey can DJ!

Pfff. CDJs.

[Digital Over]

Originally Posted by Pennywise

that shit is my roots yo!

Jon the Dentist was kick ass at Millenium 2001.

Dude, what was that one w/ John the Denist and Rabbit in The Moon at the plaza of nations? Such a mental party.

Honestly, as pat said, HH and Nu NRG were in their prime when i first started partying, I'll always have a soft spot for it.

There was also a spooky a few years back too which 12" Thumpers headlined, that was also another class party

[ty:rone]

digital: i think that was dave's valentine shit or something alike. the first, the best.
the 12" thumper night was a VERY INTERESTING night. lil ms booty was rockin those days too hahaha SEATTLE!

and furthering the support of twisted's love for nrg, their christmas party is bringin GUYBER and WEE HASHLAM.
i for one thing can tell you, haslam SUCKED when he was runnin tidy. but now i think he's underrated. guyver's guyver, give it up & go check it out.

msg Anjew for tickets LOLz

[Digital Over]

^

Right! Thank you! :)


Yeah, the christmas party is going to be awesome, killer line up all over....Definately worth attending for sure.

[ty:rone]

Originally Posted by Digital Over

^

Right! Thank you! :)


Yeah, the christmas party is going to be awesome, killer line up all over....Definately worth attending for sure.

i like how fergie just jumpd outta that boat. he was like the nukleuz king or something. him and bk. damn they were rockin.

[Foxglove]

Wait Fergie.. isn't he an RNB artist now or something?

[Digital Over]

Originally Posted by ty:rone

i like how fergie just jumpd outta that boat. he was like the nukleuz king or something. him and bk. damn they were rockin.

You nailed that one right on the head dude, Fergie was one of my fav producers, very much agreed; definately a shame he just threw his hands up. Yes tracks then, like House of Pain, 200 Degrees - Hellfire [BK vs Nick Sentience Remix] <-- think that was the specific mix, Cliff Vermette playing tunes like Eternal Rhythm dbm remix, will all remain timeless to me. :)

[ty:rone]

Originally Posted by Foxglove

Wait Fergie.. isn't he an RNB artist now or something?

EXACTLY!! sex change and all.

[KrisisID]

Originally Posted by kir mokum

i've never been able to understand how people could like it.

i see your point, its quite repetitive. but why i listened to it before was cuz it was bouncy, and fun. the whole MMPOW sort of thing, lol. if you understand what i mean.

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by kir mokum

i've never been able to understand how people could like it.

Y'know, I kinda thought that part was obvious

[kir mokum]

Originally Posted by KrisisID

i see your point, its quite repetitive. but why i listened to it before was cuz it was bouncy, and fun. the whole MMPOW sort of thing, lol. if you understand what i mean.

almost all music is repetitive. what i don't understand is how so many people can think that music as inane, vapid, and obtuse as late 90s hard house and nunrg is so fuckingawesome2themaxtimes1000. the emotion that this kind of music appeals to does not exist in my register. much like the emotional appeal of barney music doesn't exist for me.

[Digital Over]

Well, that's been the beauty of music. The point of subjectivity. What might sound good to you, I might think is god awful, and same applies to me, what I really like, might wanna make you chunder, and that's fine.

[ebbomega]

There's also the angle though that there's a whole bunch of music that I'm not really that into, but I can appreciate the art behind it. A lot of the generic party-genres, like UKHH or Speed Garage, don't seem to be appreciated at all outside their niches, mainly because of their simplistic design or lack of variety within the genre.

Frinstance, I'm not really a huge System Of A Down fan, but I can understand their appeal.

UKHH, however, I can't really explain beyond the fact that most of the E of the time had a lot of meth in it.

[kir mokum]

...and i don't think you'll find any real artists or musicians or anyone willing to push envelopes in the genre. it's pretty much a genre for n00bs and the naive (for lack of a better term). you may like it or find it aesthetically pleasing, and that's cool, but that's as far as it can ever really go. you certainly wont see anything interesting or groundbreaking come from it. i don't think anyway. maybe that's not important to some people but that has an importance to me. art without progress is stagnant and really isn't art. it becomes a product. a craft. that's my beef with it. like ebbomega said, i can't respect it other than for it's ability to dupe the ignorant and naive and take their monies.

[Digital Over]

funny, I feel the exact same way with minimal and electro lately, most producers have "jumped the bandwagon" and have started copying totally whored out sounds, therefore its harder to come across something ground breaking, I wouldnt write off any genre completely, especially in this more or less generic time the internaional edm market is experiencing. I would have to disagree that HH fanbase is ignorant, most ppl I have spoken with have a huge spectrum of music knowledge/appreciation, it just comes down to you don't like the genre and thats totally cool.

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by Digital Over

funny, I feel the exact same way with minimal and electro lately, most producers have "jumped the bandwagon" and have started copying totally whored out sounds, therefore its harder to come across something ground breaking,

I agree. Though it's more like it's jumped the shark. But that usually happens about a year or so after Madonna jumps into the genre.

Dance Rock / Rave revival is the new hotness. Kitsune or bust.

[Digital Over]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

Dance Rock / Rave revival is the new hotness. Kitsune or bust.

very very VERY true. :)

[ty:rone]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

I agree. Though it's more like it's jumped the shark. But that usually happens about a year or so after Madonna jumps into the genre.

Dance Rock / Rave revival is the new hotness. Kitsune or bust.

correction: that's what usually happens with anything that gets hot.
kitsune ? hm... i dunno. give it a year or so.. hehe.
i have my ups n downs with that genre.
seeing that stuff like d.a.n.c.e.s being remixed left right n center. the shark's already ridin a loadful.