Hard House / Nu NRG

[Foxglove]

Anybody miss this genre?

Everybody I've talked to either really loves or really hates the bumpy jumpy poppy hard house nrg sound that pretty much dominated the later years of the 90's and lasted well into the 00's

It's still around and from what I hear Tidy Trax is still putting out records!!! The other half of nrg (namely artists like Dark By Design) is pretty much still around too but the genre has pretty much lost it's appeal to me since around 01. I don't know maybe I miss the in your faceness of the Tidy/Shock/Nukleus sound.

Either way the music certainly hasn't aged well. I'd be embarrassed to play Nine Bar in one of my sets, but that doesn't stop me from remembering what it was like to love that music with a legitimate passion. To me, it was music that belonged, florished and reveled in it it's own time.

What does everybody think of this dayglow abortion of a genre?

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by Foxglove

Anybody miss this genre?

No.

Next thread pls.

[sNyx]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

No.

Next thread pls.

good thing your not anybody, err a nobody. sorry. my grammar has been lacking.
if the guy likes HH or NRG then let him enjoy it.

[Phrenetic]

i like the bumpiddy bump stuff from time to time

hey egomega why are you so angry?

[sNyx]

Originally Posted by Phrenetic

hey egomega why are you so angry?

I heard he has that Hank Hill disease. Narrow urethra.

[Foxglove]

Either people really like this genre or really hate it. Nothing's changed about that.

[sNyx]

Originally Posted by Foxglove

Either people really like this genre or really hate it. Nothing's changed about that.

It goes that way for most general electronic genre, the differences between the Trancers and Junglists is Apples to Dragons.

[Kraig]

http://fnk.ca/board/f236/vancouver-e...centre-210471/

[Pennywise]

that shit is my roots yo!

Jon the Dentist was kick ass at Millenium 2001.

[project.one]

No, I dont miss it, becuase I still play it haha! Ive been throwing some of the older bouncy HardHouse into my sets latley and people have been loving it. I dont think it actually died, I think people just got caught up in the newer styles coming out and it got pushed to a back burner!

Fuck whatever people say about how it sucks and/or whatever. I still love it, and I know a lot of other people who do to!

[Phrenetic]

Originally Posted by project.one

No, I dont miss it, becuase I still play it haha! Ive been throwing some of the older bouncy HardHouse into my sets latley and people have been loving it. I dont think it actually died, I think people just got caught up in the newer styles coming out and it got pushed to a back burner!

Fuck whatever people say about how it sucks and/or whatever. I still love it, and I know a lot of other people who do to!

get the hell back on msn!

[sNyx]

Originally Posted by Pennywise

that shit is my roots yo!

Jon the Dentist was kick ass at Millenium 2001.

I remember Jon the Dentist showing me photos of his young mistresses across the world on his mobile phone at the RhythmNation makeup party. Good times.

[kir mokum]

i've never been able to understand how people could like it.

[kir mokum]

Originally Posted by My!es

It goes that way for most general electronic genre, the differences between the Trancers and Junglists is Apples to Dragons.

jon stewart?

[project.one]

- post removed because i hurt someone's feelings -

[Phrenetic]

jesus christ its fucking music, STFU and GTFO

PHrenetic out!

[ebbomega]

I don't understand why people need to get so defensive when people answer their questions honestly, albeit bluntly.

[kir mokum]

Originally Posted by project.one

Ive never been able to understand how people who simply dont like it have to let everyone know they dont like it, and feel the need to inform everyone that because they dont like it, it must be shitty music.

would you like me to have spared your fragile emotional state and not answer the question posed? does your opinion deserve more respect than mine? there's a million things i could say to put down hard house and impose my aesthetics and philosophies on musical art forms and hard house specifically, but i didn't. i said something honestly and speaks only of myself and somehow i'm the asshole? fuck off.

it's unchallenging, boring, garbage music that's easy to make, easy to DJ, has the emotional dynamics of a dog, a shelf life measured in nanoseconds, and appeals only to the lowest common denominator and fucktards. there, now i'm an asshole.

[Jonny Dubbs]

^
pretty much sums it up

[project.one]

Originally Posted by kir mokum

would you like me to have spared your fragile emotional state and not answer the question posed? does your opinion deserve more respect than mine? there's a million things i could say to put down hard house and impose my aesthetics and philosophies on musical art forms and hard house specifically, but i didn't. i said something honestly and speaks only of myself and somehow i'm the asshole? fuck off.

But you didnt just answer the question. ebbomega answered the question, you just stated something. Didnt really answer any questions.
Seems to me your getting pretty defensive here lol and I never said anything about my opinion needing more respect or anything then mine.
The question imposed by this thread was looking for people who enjoyed this style of music, but you came in and stated how you dont understand how people can like it. I never attacked you, I said in the same form as you did, how I dont understand why people feel the need to state they dont like it when people are trying to find others who do like it.

...

This is why I dont post on FnK much anymore. Everyone jumps on everything people say, and everything MUST be an attack at someone else.

Sorry I hurt your feelings!

[Senior]

2000 called and they want their shitty music back...

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by project.one

This is why I dont post on FnK much anymore. Everyone jumps on everything people say, and everything MUST be an attack at someone else.

My problem with FnK isn't so much that everybody jumps all over it, it's just that everybody assumes that you're jumping on it and reacts. Christ, I just posted four words and you see the animosity I get for it? Blaming most of that on Myles though, he seems to revel in calling me a bitter jaded asshole, like he's any less of a hater or something. OMG I DISLIKE THE MUSIC YOU LIKE, I MUST BE A NOBODY. Please.

[Foxglove]

People have just as much right to say they don't like something just as much they have the right to say they do.

And once again this thread has been a perfect example at the 50/50 response genres like hard house seem to get. Thanks to everybody who gave their honest opinions one way or the other ;)

That being said I'm happy to hear there's still those out there who still like this stuff even though it hasn't aged well. Or maybe it's like fine wine :cheesy::cheesy::cheesy:

[kir mokum]

Originally Posted by project.one

But you didnt just answer the question. ebbomega answered the question, you just stated something. Didnt really answer any questions.

i did answer the question. it's implicit in my post. how could i like hard house if i can't understand how someone could like hard house? if i liked it i would be experiencing that first hand and would probably be able to understand it.

Originally Posted by project.one

Seems to me your getting pretty defensive here lol

not really. i just hate it when people put words in my mouth. i believe you're the one who came at me.

Originally Posted by project.one

and I never said anything about my opinion needing more respect or anything then mine.

then why was it implied that you're allowed to spew your positive opinion and a negative one can't be understood? seems pretty clear to me that if you think that a positive opinion should be allowed and a negative one shouldn't (are at least it isn't understandable why one would want to post a negative one) that the positive one is deserving of more respect in your eyes.

Originally Posted by project.one

The question imposed by this thread was looking for people who enjoyed this style of music,

no, it wasn't. in fact, the original poster called it a "dayglo abortion of a genre". ultimately the original poster was looking for all responses.

Originally Posted by project.one

but you came in and stated how you dont understand how people can like it.

so? i can't. srsly. i don't understand the appeal.

Originally Posted by project.one

I never attacked you, I said in the same form as you did, how I dont understand why people feel the need to state they dont like it when people are trying to find others who do like it.

then why did you quote me and then mock the format of my post if you weren't attacking what i said? pretty standard practise on the internet to mock someone by using the format of their post. i'm pretty sure you're aware of that. your response was clearly an attack on what i said.

Originally Posted by project.one

This is why I dont post on FnK much anymore. Everyone jumps on everything people say, and everything MUST be an attack at someone else.

maybe you should be more responsible for what you say.

Originally Posted by project.one

Sorry I hurt your feelings!

what feelings? you can say whatever the fuck you want. i'd suggest being able to back it up though.

[ebbomega]

The appeal of HH/NRG is pretty much the same as any party-dance genre, if you think about it. Simple formula makes it easy to dance to. offbeat basslines make the music "bouncey", making it very fun for people on ecstasy. I can't really explain the appeal of the hoovers other than to say that some people are as obsessive about the hoover as I am of the acid line.

Frankly I still like a lot of the early HH/NuNRG stuff... Commander Tom, anything that came out of Tinrib before they got rid of the 303s, heck, I even had a Klubbheadz track or two in my collection back in the day.

I understand the appeal, I just grew out of it just under a decade ago. Kinda like Speed Garage in that respect.

Time moves on. There's probably going to be a resurgence of this stuff in about 10 years time, after the Rave and Trance revivals kick in, but before we get another Disco revival.

Right now we're just getting past the acid-house revival, which a lot of people are confusing with "electro" even it really has nothing to do with electro anymore (the whole "electro" genre gave up on actual electro around a year or two ago).