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Old May 20, 08
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shit i though we figured this out a few post back. I must need new glasses cause I can't see yours at all from here.
Show me where I once demanded to hear, and criticize your music? I didn't, because I don't care. If you were the best thing since sliced bread, you wouldn't be on fnk on a Tuesday night, arguing with someone who's deliberately trying to piss you off.
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Old May 20, 08
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If you were the best thing since sliced bread, you wouldn't be on fnk on a Tuesday night, arguing with someone who's deliberately trying to piss you off.
Fnk is great entertainment for me when I'm on the net. If you are deliberately trying to piss me off that's pretty lame. I was trying to educate you on some of the lingo used.

^PARTY I want to hear some of your tunes!!!!
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Old May 20, 08
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^ that's real funny.
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MySpace.com - Dj Nameless - Vancouver, CA - House / Trance / Ambient - www.myspace.com/djnamelessmix
Tell me what you think. Yeah, these ones are a little old, but I still got some tricks in my bag. Looking forward to releasing my other tracks in the coming weeks.
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Old May 20, 08
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MySpace.com - Dj Nameless - Vancouver, CA - House / Trance / Ambient - www.myspace.com/djnamelessmix
Tell me what you think. Yeah, these ones are a little old, but I still got some tricks in my bag. Looking forward to releasing my other tracks in the coming weeks.
sounds not too bad, can't wait to hear the newer better tracks, they always sound better the more you do;)
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they always sound better the more you do;)
well at least I can agree with that.
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working at hmv? Sorry man, I know way to much about making tracks to be beat down like that.

Just wait and you'll see!
HMV?

How many shows have you performed at out of interest?

If you have preformed more often then I have in the past then you might have a valid point. I haven't done a ton since music is purely a very casual hobby, so you better have done more.

Otherwise you're a kid with with a hard drive of pirated software.

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Just wait and you'll see!
You haven't done anything in 8 years. You have no connections, and a bad attitude.

You are hardly on the cusp of fame.

Get rid of the better then everyone else attitude. Because one of the first things you need to know in music, is that there is always someone better then you in the world, in your country, and in your city.

The only way to build any sort of connection is to be humble, lucky and have some original ideas.

Labels don't care what programs you use, or how many plugins you have, or how well you know a program.

They want a good track and someone who's easy to work with.

Both of which you lack

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Old May 21, 08
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HMV?

How many shows have you performed at out of interest?
A few house parties. I haven't had any dj gear for the past 6 years, and had only two years bedroom experience. The reason I had to sell the 1200s is pretty lame, and sad. I have never had a job until now that I could pay the bills, and get some gear till now.

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If you have preformed more often then I have in the past then you might have a valid point. I haven't done a ton since music is purely a very casual hobby, so you better have done more.
If your talking about djing, whe all know it isn't that big of a deal, or skill to mix track a-b. If you are some crazy techno dj mixing tracks a,b,c,d to track e, much respect cause that's some pretty crazy shit, or if you a turntablest. Both are next level djing.

As far as my personal live ambitions, I want to just mix track a-b. I really don't see myself as getting into live pa, or doing the hybrid thing with Ableton Live.

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Otherwise you're a kid with with a hard drive of pirated software.
I wouldn't say I'm a kid anymore. At least I know the difference of what a good sounding plugin is.

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You haven't done anything in 8 years. You have no connections, and a bad attitude.
Yeah, it has taken me a long time to get competent at producing dance music, but not comming from any kind of musical background; I had to learn Music theory, sound design, audio engineering, all the software, and not to mention all the bs of computer hick ups.

I just started making music using some proper monitors just yesterday, before I was using a combination of HD25s and Pc speakers. My track Electronic was the best track I had done using a setup with out proper speakers. I got a good responce from it.

Connections? Anybody with an AIM account can get a track signed.

My additude is awsome, I'm really positive, confident, funny, pretty sharp most the time.

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You are hardly on the cusp of fame.
One of the cool things of making music is dreaming that you can make a worldwide impact with your own tunes. With the advent of powerfull daws they have brought the ability to make music recordings of the highest of quality in a bedroom. Fuck you can even do some pretty good DYI mastering these days.

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Get rid of the better then everyone else attitude. Because one of the first things you need to know in music, is that there is always someone better then you in the world, in your country, and in your city.
I stated my sound design is the shit, and it is. I have sounds no one else has. I'm sure there are people that have sounds that I don't have as well. That's one reason I like synths in music so much because you can create sounds that no one else has heard. I just don't want to end up using "stock", or "canned" sounds all the time that have been rinsed out to death.

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The only way to build any sort of connection is to be humble, lucky and have some original ideas.
Nope. Good artist borrow, great artist flat out steal! Well at least I'll have some original sounds.

You are right about the luck thing when it comes to being a full time superstar.

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Labels don't care what programs you use, or how many plugins you have, or how well you know a program.
True.


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They want a good track and someone who's easy to work with.

Both of which you lack
Well I do have a good track. It didn't get signed because it wasn't a great track.

How would I be hard to work with if I just send a file over the net to get mastered, and put on a website?

Like I have said I'm a pretty nice guy. If I come across as cocky, I see that as a good thing. It's all about the confidence
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Old May 21, 08
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If your talking about djing, whe all know it isn't that big of a deal, or skill to mix track a-b. If you are some crazy techno dj mixing tracks a,b,c,d to track e, much respect cause that's some pretty crazy shit, or if you a turntablest. Both are next level djing.
Djing and Musical performance. Either or I would have taken. I've done both to some degree.

You don't have the experience to back up your attitude. I don't have a ton, but I don't come on here thinking I'm the best musician around.

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I wouldn't say I'm a kid anymore. At least I know the difference of what a good sounding plugin is.
Till you get some experience, your still a kid in this aspect.

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Yeah, it has taken me a long time to get competent at producing dance music, but not comming from any kind of musical background; I had to learn Music theory, sound design, audio engineering, all the software, and not to mention all the bs of computer hick ups.

I just started making music using some proper monitors just yesterday, before I was using a combination of HD25s and Pc speakers. My track Electronic was the best track I had done using a setup with out proper speakers. I got a good responce from it.
People don't care about this.


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Connections? Anybody with an AIM account can get a track signed.

My additude is awsome, I'm really positive, confident, funny, pretty sharp most the time.
Really? How come you haven't got signed? You don't have an AIM account?

All of the major and minor recording artists worked their way up to some degree. They didn't just send an email to a label saying "OMG THIS TRACK ROCK'S CHECK OUT MY SHIT".

Get out and play, see how your tracks fair with people who aren't your friends. Learn how to handle a crowd. Get a following, then maybe a label will look at you.


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One of the cool things of making music is dreaming that you can make a worldwide impact with your own tunes. With the advent of powerfull daws they have brought the ability to make music recordings of the highest of quality in a bedroom. Fuck you can even do some pretty good DYI mastering these days.
And have filled Radio Stations and Music labels inboxes and mail boxes with dozens of CD's from no name people that nobody listens to.

Yes you can produce a track. And maybe even fairly well. But labels aren't going to listen, unless other people do first.

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Nope. Good artist borrow, great artist flat out steal! Well at least I'll have some original sounds.

You are right about the luck thing when it comes to being a full time superstar.
When it comes to being a full time superstar? Hardly, when it comes to getting a booking at your local club, luck and connections help big time.



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How would I be hard to work with if I just send a file over the net to get mastered, and put on a website?
Uh, are we talking about actual music labels, or some guys music blog?

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Like I have said I'm a pretty nice guy. If I come across as cocky, I see that as a good thing. It's all about the confidence
Have you considered this:

On this board, most of the people who book local electronic acts post to some degree.

You've been a dick in this thread, and showed that you are unwilling to listen to people with more experience then you. They aren't going to be clamoring to book you. Off the top of my head you've probably shut your doors to 3-5 clubs in this city.

You do not have the skills to back up your talk.

Big/medium size names in electronic music who tour and put out CD's didn't just email their stuff out (here's a hint to, labels delete almost every email they receive from outside sources).

The key is this. Get some cred in your own city. Slowly expanded outwards. Get known to some degree. Make connections and work your way from the bottom.

Look at some local talent that's done good. B.Traits for example. Dj'd worked her way, made connections, and was an all around nice person. Stuff is happening to her now.

Name one major player who got signed after emailing a track to a label from their hotmail address with no previous crowd experience.
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this thread was exhausting. you kids should spend more time writing music and less time writing ABOUT music... typical long winded producer/rockstar wannabe tripe
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Old May 22, 08
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You've been a dick in this thread, and showed that you are unwilling to listen to people with more experience then you. They aren't going to be clamoring to book you. Off the top of my head you've probably shut your doors to 3-5 clubs in this city.
Don't worry, inside. I'd hire you just for being a dick in this thread.
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Don't worry, inside. I'd hire you just for being a dick in this thread.
Am I trying to be a musician?
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Old May 22, 08
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How would I know? I know nothing about you.
Inside, on the other hand, is a legend born of the maelstrom of positive press only arguing in this forum can bring.
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Old May 22, 08
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How would I know? I know nothing about you.
Inside, on the other hand, is a legend born of the maelstrom of positive press only arguing in this forum can bring.
Thanks Mangle. I know you "get" it.
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Old May 23, 08
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How would I know? I know nothing about you.
Inside, on the other hand, is a legend born of the maelstrom of positive press only arguing in this forum can bring.

If you had actually read all of this thread then you would have noticed he said its a hobby for him. He isn't really being a dick he us just calling bullshit on someone who talks like they are a production master.
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Old May 23, 08
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If you had actually read all of this thread then you would have noticed he said its a hobby for him.
How do you know I can read?
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Well getting pretty close to being semi-pro. It's near impossible to be full time, but I can dream, and try my hardest.
Sorry... who's paying you? Because unless you're making any money off your craft, you don't get to use the word "pro" in any respect, semi or otherwise.

It's not impossible to do full time, it's just tedious and costly. You need some backup capital to survive off a musician's wage for a while, and expect a lot of kraft dinner.

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I'll go with a number 2, but it's really just confidence. If you can back it up, have'r.
You can't back it up. You have no signed records. Your experience is limited to house parties (dude, I broke past that three years ago and I still consider myself amateur... and I get paid for gigs!)

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We all get our start some where. Daft Punk-Homework, The Streets-Original Pirate Material, Dizzee Rascal-Boy in the Corner.
Signed, signed, signed....... noticing the pattern yet?

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I'm a dance producer. There is a project in the works to produce a big dj in the international scene very soon.
Mmm-hmm. Less talk, more action. I've heard this story before from many more before you who had more experience and still didn't bring anything out of it.

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Sorry... who's paying you? Because unless you're making any money off your craft, you don't get to use the word "pro" in any respect, semi or otherwise.
I said semi-pro very soon, which mean I am confident I will be getting shit signed very soon. READ!!!

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It's not impossible to do full time, it's just tedious and costly. You need some backup capital to survive off a musician's wage for a while, and expect a lot of kraft dinner.
Some capital to survive? It's hard enough to pay the bills, and buy gear. Nevermind saving up to take off three months or whatever to make beats.

Get a huge single=Going fulltime. That's when luck comes into play.


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You can't back it up. You have no signed records. Your experience is limited to house parties (dude, I broke past that three years ago and I still consider myself amateur... and I get paid for gigs!)
I don't really care about my lack of "live" experience. 8 years of learning to make beats is an experience!


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Signed, signed, signed....... noticing the pattern yet?
Made in a bedroom, bedroom, bedroom.... noticing a pattern?

Fuck man did you even read the postings?


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Mmm-hmm. Less talk, more action. I've heard this story before from many more before you who had more experience and still didn't bring anything out of it.
Yep, on it! DAW was down since January. Just got some proper monitors. Will be mixing down a new track on Sunday!

You know what? I am a fuckin rock star, you just don't know it yet. If you don't think it, you won't do it!

If anybody has any opinions that are negative, fuck off I don't care.

People should support local producers. Way too many people are hung up on Djing.

I bet you guys didn't even listen to my last track which I posted twice.

Off to the studio fuckers!!!!!
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I said semi-pro very soon, which mean I am confident I will be getting shit signed very soon. READ!!!
Being confident you will be getting signed very soon and getting signed very soon are two very different things. The more you talk about it like it's going to happen, the more you tempt fate to make it all fall out underneath you.

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Some capital to survive? It's hard enough to pay the bills, and buy gear. Nevermind saving up to take off three months or whatever to make beats.
There's a reason the word "starving" very often goes in front of the word "artist". Without sacrifice there is no reward.

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I don't really care about my lack of "live" experience. 8 years of learning to make beats is an experience!
Yup, so have all the other local production acts. You seriously act like you're the only person with shit together production wise. Heck, we can look directly on this board for a host of people who have been signed, put out albums, and STILL have day jobs. You don't get any of those bragging rights until you actually pay your dues like they have and have something to back it up. You're still being an armchair expert until you actually have the cred to back up your shit.

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Made in a bedroom, bedroom, bedroom.... noticing a pattern?
I also notice that they performed in front of a crowd long before they all got signed.

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People should support local producers. Way too many people are hung up on Djing.
Just about any local producer that I know of that's been signed is also either a DJ or a Live PA artist. Which of these do you do? If you do put out a record, how exactly are you going to promote it? Just hand them out to your DJ buddies and hope that they have enough force to push it to the crowds? Are your friends really that highly influential in the dance music community? We see record releases here every month.... Ill-Esha, Influenza, Hirshee, Male Model Machine, Lazy Rich... all people who have had some kind of presence on FNK and all people who have actually worked within the scene a bunch. Not just DJing but throwing shows and release parties, promoting their work, touring, etc. etc. etc. (and there are a lot of etcs)

All that stuff that takes a full-time effort.

You can keep talking about your shit like it don't stink kid, it don't make it true. There's a lot of people who work their ass off, not just in the studio, who have come before you and they're nowhere near as successful as you imply to be able to be. How the hell are we supposed to.

The music world just doesn't work like that.
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