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I dont think dj's spin croud pleasures for the croud they prolly love em themselves. I love it when a dj plays awesome farely well known tracks throughout there setZ. People label phat ass tracks that everyone wants to hear at parties croud pleasers but they can also be dj pleasers too!
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Awol ... I know how you feel
I like to bring the darker spectrum of drum and bass into my sets, yet I can remember countless times where I've dropped stuff thats waaay lighter, simply cause the crowd can't handle it. Simply put ... Vancouver sucks Ask any DJ from here who DJ's in other cities and you'll get the same awnser. Sure, we ain't the worst, but we are far behind. The only thing kids wanna hear are tracks that make em dance, they don't wanna explore the musical styles it'll take some time for Vancouver to grow as a city and scene before it gets more experimental on a main stream basis. So go play some flordia cheese ... oh wait that was 2 years ago Just play what you wanna hear, cause its your style and if the crowd dosn't like you ... fuck em. They need to hear some different music anyhow. |
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Seriously, if someone has hired you to perform there is a certain amount of a job you have to do. Its striking the balance between playing what you want to hear and what the crowd wants. You are there for one reason (in the promoter's mind): Get the crowd moving and having a great time. Whether this means playing anthems or the darkest hardest jungle ever depends on how much you think you can get away with, what the crowd likes, and how much you care about being hired again. Don't get me wrong, you should love every track that you play, never play a track that you hate just because the crowd loves it... but out of all the tracks that YOU love, you should be able to tailor a set to a specific crowd within the genre or genres you have chosen...using these tracks that you love. This is my point. Hopefully you have a broad enough musical taste and appreciation of different styles to do this. If you don't, you should'nt be a Dj. |
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I've seen it happen so many times.... |
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hmmm...
all i really gotta say is....
PEOPLE DON"T LIKE HEARING THE SAME SHIT 3 times a night !!!! or the same tracks every party !!! thats what gets boring !!! CLASSICS BABY ! CLASSICS !! is always good !! too many or the same song played over and over is........ annoying !!! BREAKZ ALL DA WAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
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I think you have to take the big picture in, you'll go farther if you keep true to yourself and your music. Rather than "selling out" just to get booking. It'll all come around one day, anthem dj's are a dime a dozen, playing whats new on the charts. If you play what you like and push it like its the coolest fucking thing youve ever played etc.. IT's allllllll work out. Give them 2, teach them 1 if you have to, but obviously with tracks you can bare.
Just cause your sound dosn't "go off" in Vancouver dosn't mean the rest of the world dosn't like it. I find vancouver to be quite snobby and shallow with our tastes in music, whether we try to do it or not! Sa'll good though. Kyle |
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Word Kyle!!
I don't play too many anthems. I'm not particularly fond of the Bad Company and Trace stuff that is so popular now. But you know what? I do alright. If you put the right energy into what you do, and play -variety- then it will work out. Variety is key.. that way there's something for everyone!!! I played in Winnipeg on Friday and every other DJ there is playing the dark hard stuff.. but somehow, I managed to drop a whole bunch of jazzy funk without complaint. It's all in the energy you put out. And fuck Vancouver, seriously!! I play here every once in awhile, but like Kyle said, focus on the bigger picture.. that's what I did, and I think my total now is 38 cities across North America. Become an internet geek like me, meet people from all over and you can play a plethora of more welcoming places. |
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If you want to fill your promo with anthems and get booked, you have to give the promoter what he paid for.
If you fill your promo with the shit YOU want and get booked, you still have to give the promoter what he paid for. Simple logic. What's more important to you: Playing out or playing the music you love? |
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the artist does what he/she wants, not what the crowd wants.
If the artist wants it bad enough, the crowd will too. That's how it works, not the other way around! The moment any artist begins to alter their product to cater to the whims of an audience is the moment the art begins to suffer. vancouver needs more djs that treat djing as an art. there are just waaay too many shitty djs playing out. |
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id say theres more unoriginal djs than shitty djs. i think vancouver is chok-ablock full of talented people, but theres not enough interested audiences. msny dj feel they have to play anthems to get people to dance, or theyll go to the speed garage room
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^^^my opinion is that unoriginal djs are shitty djs.
anyone and everyone can learn how to dj, it's fucking easy. but we all know that originality strikes few and far between. It's a shame. your right about there not being a big enough audience for it. this is true. Last edited by -evil-duerr-; Apr 10, 07 at 09:59 PM. |
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Most Dj's want to play the music that they think is good. If you have good taste and the music fits the scene in the venue, then it's all good. However, if you're a techno club playing house all night, don't expect a second shot.
Also, the scene is changing so fast. I think the current buzz is this big electro clique in Vancouver. Maybe next year it will be tribal, who knows? Anyways, sometimes you gotta play for the people, get em dancing, and then maybe drop that underground track in the set and see how it goes, if everyone likes it, keep em coming. |
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Ding ding ding! Yup a good track is a good track....I'm all about having a certain dynamic within my sets, it allows me to take the crowd on a journey without compremising the "big bang factor" as I call it, keep the energy up, but build on elements, or certain signature sounds that make ones sets stick in the crowds head...it certainly helps having a wide range of not only track selection but to know what works at certain times of the set, and what simply won't work, but yes, I certainly like dropping my classics too, always yield to good times : ' ) |
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Programming...
For me it has always been about programming a set properly.
If you're using party anthems as a dancefloor filler, well, it's a very handy tool. But if you have no need to create/fill a dancefloor, then you might want something else. There are so many scenarios on a dancefloor, and learning to adapt to them is a DJs job. It really all has to do with the dynamic you are trying to create within the masses. What are you trying to do? Create the party? Keep it going? Are you losing them? Are people passing out? Is it the end of the night? Who are you opening/closing for? Are you the headliner? etc.... Every track has it's time and place. As a DJ, you must figure out when/where that is... |
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Hearing the noise of what's happening this summer makes me think that there's something good brewing in this city, even the indy rockers are seem to have some steam built up. I'm not sure the audience issue is something to be concerned about. Playing smaller clubs, with crowds that are there because they want to hear the music is refreshing. As much fun as the massive styles of some place like Guverment or The Docks in Toronto has some pull, there's a lot of fat in the crowds there. Some of the smaller shows that I've caught here I've really enjoyed, especially because they would have been over sold in other cities. It's just to bad the people putting them on aren't getting the coin and props they should be. |