2004's which genre ready to make it big

[REV]

Come on people, looking over the past 3-4 years, even the past year things have really really changed in this city....
- Weekend club nights catering to electronic music
- Less raves
- Only one dedicated drum n bass nights
- "Sexy house" on the decline
- Trance coming back?
- A few techno show going off
- Tonnes of new locals on the rise
- Less people supporting locals
- No more commerical radio play for local electronica
- A big shift in who are doing the clubnights
- Breaks scene seems to be growing
- 4am openings


what do you think some of the biggest new trends will be?

[ƒORM]

I gotta add breaks to your poll :smoke1:

[ppcock]

techno all the fucking way

enough of this breaks bullshit :P

[dj4mula]

-Nu Skool Breaks has offically broken out
-More party kids heading to Seattle for events
-House music is starting to grow (All forms)
-More DJ's becoming producers and many of them becoming successful
-Small production crews continuing to bring some of the best DJs to clubs
-Some
-More hip-hop heads are turning to breaks and dnb
-More younger kids being really really high at parties
-More nammers are indoor events that ever :trippin:

`t1m

[ƒORM]

^lol

It was all about techno when first started going to these things but according to Eminem "Nobody listens to techno"

[REV]

you guys have to be a bit more realistic and realise that 2003 was quite possibly the worst year for the scene of our generation....

something has to happen to make it come back to the way it was.. what do you think it will be?

[ppcock]

according to moby: "Eminem might have a thing for guys"

And also, where's eminem now?

[ƒORM]

The older generation thinks all electronic music is techno..i tried explaining the differences to family members many a times. The truth behind it is I haven't heard any good techno in awhile. Perhaps I don't taste the menu all that often.

[miss.myra]

I'm hoping house makes a huge comeback...to the clubs, to the parties..everywhere...instead of trance headliners, I'd like to see someone like felix or pete tong headline a massive and have everyone dancing.. (nice start with kiss 2004, love to see what dmitry is going to have all the kids saying)

Vancouver has to kind of get caught up with the rest of the world. Trance headlining every massive has nothing to do with it being #1, do people honestly always attend those things just for the music? :P

I also hope there's death to electroclash and all the pretentiousness that ensues.

i'm always hoping for some more techno, I haven't seen a great show since Richie Hawtin came to the commadore a few years ago. *there's been good shows since then, i just haven't gone

Dnb wise, it's seen a steady decline for the last few years which is pretty unexplainable. I'm hoping there will definitely be some great talent brought in 2004, because I'm going to scream if John B comes one more time :P. I don't think this city has its love for great dnb in all the right places (for example, teebee came a few years ago and nobody really showed up, fuck you guys!)....unless someone tries something completely new and amazing, I don't anticipate things turning around, but that doesn't mean people won't still have a great time with automatic at the lotus and clash parties.

[Bevvy Swift]

dnb is gonna break out of its shell this year, closely followed by nuskool and tribal breaks. trance is going to get less and less exposure (hopefully) and i am going to get a gig doing beatboxing with a live dj.

[REV]

AS for Techno, Mauro Picotto & Marco Carola , Juan Atkins, John Kelley, Akufen, Tactical Techno showcase 1-3 were some major events this year not to mention the series of techno shows Derrick Wilson has started (although they only focus on hard techno)

well... the only thing that I really see is that want more then just to here some name dj who they can download... people need to be re-introduced to some sort of experience but there seems to be an overall lack of enthusiasm, support and positivity from the "community"

[MC Hammered]

Originally posted by ƒORM
^lol

It was all about techno when first started going to these things but according to Eminem "Nobody listens to techno"

He sais nobody listens to Disco or Techno :c-tard:

But trance is where it is at.

Then progressive house and psytrance.

[ebbomega]

Trance has been default music for far too long.

Bring on the Techno. Let's see a Liberator out here or something already!

[stabmyhead]

I want to see more techno, more Japanese techno and experimental artists. Thank you AgroDave for bringing KenIshii. Someone bring back Cornelius, or Cubismo.

I also want to see some Tiga, Felix Da Housecat (I know he was here recently already), Dax Riders <3 - the shake your ass and groove like a maniac kinda stuff. I'm hoping it comes back big in a good way for this year.

[miss.myra]

Originally posted by REV


well... the only thing that I really see is that want more then just to here some name dj who they can download... people need to be re-introduced to some sort of experience but there seems to be an overall lack of enthusiasm, support and positivity from the &quot;community&quot;

I see a lot of 'hey! this big name is coming to town and this is why we say they're good, so you're going to like them!'

I think as a whole, there's just not as much passion in this community for music like there is elsewhere. I would say it's certainly refreshing to meet people who are so in love with music..and it's definitely great to see promoters taking risks to bring in names that people may not be entirely familiar with because they enjoy their stuff and know that an unknowing crowd will be turned onto something new. This city is not supportive and excited enough about new things that it's so incredibly hard for people to try anything new...but I hope that turns around.

[Wood]

how about fucking MUSIC. genres are killing music, if DJs and clubbers weren't so caught up in their separate little scenes, dance music wouldn't be in the dire straits that it is right now

this whole movement needs to grow up, get over it's ego issues and start bringing people TOGETHER with sounds, instead of pushing them apart.

i mean obviously different people have different tastes, but DJs need to view that as a challenge, instead of just staying safely within the boundries of your chosen scene and everyone else be damned. then we'll start seeing successful clubnights & parties that don't rely on expensive & over rated OOT talent.

that, and kill all the electroklash. anybody read this weeks westender? hehe 'haircuts' lol

[REV]

Originally posted by Wood
how about fucking MUSIC. genres are killing music, if DJs and clubbers weren't so caught up in their separate little scenes, dance music wouldn't be in the dire straits that it is right now

this whole movement needs to grow up, get over it's ego issues and start bringing people TOGETHER with sounds, instead of pushing them apart.

i mean obviously different people have different tastes, but DJs need to view that as a challenge, instead of just staying safely within the boundries of your chosen scene and everyone else be damned. then we'll start seeing successful clubnights &amp; parties that don't rely on expensive &amp; over rated OOT talent.

that, and kill all the electroklash. anybody read this weeks westender? hehe 'haircuts' lol

Totally agree mr woody, the past two years have seen music stick its head up its own ass. People forgetting the roots of it all and forgetting that its all about having fun with people you are friends with and being introduced to something you might not otherwise know. most nights have really tightened up the formats, some are still wide open... either way the attitude that comes along with say, people that follow progressive house like religion is very detrimental because its like a cult now... ironically most of those dj's could care less and love playing eclectic or big anthem sets... same goes for tech-house and probably with dnb, Breaks have gone in a darker direction or late and most people have a big misconception that techno is only blazing hard headbanger music.

[MC Hammered]

It is hard to convince people to open their minds and ears to new types of sounds.

My taste in music spans the spectrum but it is hard to get people that like trance to listen to DnB, people that like hip hop to listen to progressive house, etc.

It is also unfortunate that people will only go to shows where the big name pulls in the ticket sales as it is the new up and coming artists that are making the best music right now.

[Wood]

Originally posted by MC Hammered
it is hard to get people that like trance to listen to DnB, people that like hip hop to listen to progressive house, etc.

those are extreme examples... but i do think it is the DJ's job to bridge those gaps. DJing in one genre, playing sets all one tempo.... it's over, in my most honest opinion. It's been done to death and people are ready to move on, even if they don't know it yet.

[matéo]

They don't call him Papa Wood for nothing. He got it spot on.

[MC Hammered]

I don't think my example were that extreme.

A club like Sonar on Wednesday plays hip hop and on Friday caters to techno, some of my friends will stay all night Wednesday but don't care to do so on Friday since the 'music doesn't inspire them'.

lol.. like listening to the Milkshake song is inspiring.

But you are right as being a DJ you do have the chance to expose the masses to new types of music.

[Wood]

no your right, they aren't that extreme.... i could have worded that differently...

i meant just that those wouldn't be the most likely genres to cross over, like i could see there being more potential for crossover between breaks/hiphop/jungle/dancehall or techno/trance/prog/breaks .... hmmm seems like breaks is the most unifying genre of the lot... maybe that's why it's gaining so much popularity lately

ultimately i guess no one dj's selection is gonna please everybody... but breaking these sub-genres up so rigidly isn't helping things either

[MC Hammered]

What we need is trancy, progressive DnB

[Wood]

yeah, i would've said the same thing.... only there's absolutely TONS of trancy, progressive dnb and, with the possible exception of dieselboy, it has never come close to crossing over to the trance audience, as far as i know

???

j. majik? sonic? john b? concord dawn? illskillz?

[ƒORM]

This is a great thread so I’ve added my 2 bits (not to be taken entirely seriously) on "bridging the gap" I say we start a coalition ;)


Country Listeners:

Tune they’ll mention if they think “Rave Music or Electronic”: Darude, Sandstorm

Wildest Clubbing Experience: Boone County, Halloween

Other Genres they’re most likely to enjoy: Live fiddle

Genre they’re terrified of: Heavy Metal, Rap or anything rave

FINAL CONVERSION VERDICT: TOUGH



Rap, Hip Hop R&B:

Tune they’ll mention if they think “Rave Music or Electronic”: That song that goes Nah nahh nahh nahhh

Wildest Clubbing Experience: Ozone @ Halloween

Other Genres they’re most likely to enjoy: Rap, Hip Hop, R&B

Genre they’re terrified of: Country

FINAL CONVERSION VERDICT: MODERATE



Breaks:

Tune they’ll mention if they think “Rave Music or Electronic”: Daft Punk

Wildest Clubbing Experience: Sonar, HOB Florida, Shine, Drink, Florida

Other Genres they’re most likely to enjoy: DNB, 2 step, speed garage, hip hop

Genre they’re terrified of: Happy Hardcore

FINAL CONVERSION VERDICT:GOOD



Trance:

Tune they’ll mention if they think “Rave Music or Electronic”: Agnelli & Nelson - Holding onto Nothing

Wildest Clubbing Experience: Pacha, Eden , Studio 54 Las Vegas, HOB, Privilige Ibiza, Innercity

Other Genres they’re most likely to enjoy: Progressive house, techno, house, dance

Genre they’re terrified of: DNB

FINAL CONVERSION VERDICT: TOUGH


DNB:

Tune they’ll mention if they think “Rave Music or Electronic”: DJ Jean The Launch

Wildest Clubbing Experience: Sonar, Pound, Air in Birmingham, Rhino club UK, The Republic, Sheffield, HOB USA

Other Genres they’re most likely to enjoy: Breaks, garage, 2-step

Genre they’re terrified of: Polka

FINAL CONVERSION VERDICT: GOOD


House:

Tune they’ll mention if they think “Rave Music or Electronic”: Paul van Dyk, Oakenfold

Wildest Clubbing Experience: HOB, Pacha, Celebrities

Other Genres they’re most likely to enjoy: Dance, trance, lounge, Z95.3

Genre they’re terrified of: Punk

FINAL CONVERSION VERDICT: GOOD



Classical:

Tune they’ll mention if they think “Rave Music or Electronic”: Prodigy or Pink Floyd
Wildest Clubbing Experience: BMW galla @ The Hyatt

Other Genres they’re most likely to enjoy: Piano, fiddle, harp

Genre they’re terrified of: Rock N Roll

FINAL CONVERSION VERDICT: INSANELY TOUGH


Pop

Tune they’ll mention if they think “Rave Music or Electronic”: Kylie Minogue

Wildest Clubbing Experience: Still 16

Other Genres they’re most likely to enjoy: American Idol re-runs, Mickey Mouse Club

Genre they’re terrified of: Punk

FINAL CONVERSION VERDICT: LOTS OF TIME