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Old Feb 23, 04
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such a grade 7-9 flashback.. i used to be into the orb, orbital, chemical brothers, prodigy etc etc back then... always loved prodigy's stuff...
haha me too, thats when i started to like electronic music
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Old Feb 23, 04
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agreed.
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Old Feb 23, 04
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i liked jilted generation and experience alot more than fat of the land.
The Experience album, to me, is the most influential electronic albums of all time. The song Outer Space being one of the most popular rave tunes ever!!! Most people don't realize how huge the Prodigy were in the UK well before they released songs over here in North America. Another thing that most people don't know is that back in 1992 most of the dj's who were around in the rave scene (UK anyway) played old skool breakbeat hardcore, which at the time was just called hardcore. North America was not as technical and basically classified all electronic music as 'techno'. Anyway, Prodigy are true pioneers, no doubt.

I get into arguments all the time with people about there favorite jungle dj's who used to play hardcore! Kenny Ken, DJ Hype(hypn, Grooverider, Fabio, SS, AK 1200, ect. All played old skool breakbeat hardcore!!! Most of them made there mark producing the stuff too!

Anyway enough of that. If you like old skool breakbeat hardcore (Stuff that sounds like early Prodigy) and want to hear more of it and don't know where. Check out "History of Hardcore Pt. 1" mixed by Kenny Ken, the CD was put out on the Suburban Base lable. Also check out "Sub Base Classics" also on the same lable, mixed by AK1200. Last but not least, this is the best Old Skool site of all time, you can download live recorded sets from the UK from 1992!!! www.oldskoolmadness.com



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Old Feb 24, 04
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^^ Actually, the oldschool breakcore (Rave music) wasn't the only stuff being called Hardcore. Stuff Chris Sheppard brought over to Canada back then like Human Resource and Apotheosis and all the other Dutch early early stuff (Think James Brown Is Dead) was also oft referred to as hardcore. In fact that stuff pretty much is what modern day hardcore evolved from.

A lot of the more mainstream (THAT AREN'T TRANCE) acts that kicked around the late 90s got their start with the oldschool rave shit. Moby, Norman Cook (known to many as Fatboy Slim), Prodigy, etc.

On that note, does anybody know what Messiah's been up to in the last 13 years?
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Old Feb 24, 04
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Actually, the oldschool breakcore (Rave music) wasn't the only stuff being called Hardcore. Stuff Chris Sheppard brought over to Canada back then like Human Resource and Apotheosis and all the other Dutch early early stuff (Think James Brown Is Dead) was also oft referred to as hardcore. In fact that stuff pretty much is what modern day hardcore evolved from.
Ya but most of the stuff Chris Sheppard had on his mixes was exactly that, rave music, breakbeat hardcore! It's funny how I bought the tapes when I was 10 years old, sold them all a couple years later to buy Nirvana and Pearl Jam CD's and now, a decade later, I find myself rebuying all the old stuff but now on vinyl. Unfortunatly Chris Sheppard's mixes became more and more mainstream dance every release he put out. He tried to redeem himself by temporarily changing his name to Dogwhistle and he put out a few cd's that sounded a little more underground again, but it was basically just hard trance, and he played the same tracks every other hard trance dj played at the time. If you remember the group Love Inc, he was also the main man behind that act too, and that was as mainstream dance as you could get.

I'd have to say that old skool breakbeat hardcore led to not only everything the Hardcore scene is now but also led to Jungle and D+B. Before 1992 jungle and hardcore were basically the same thing. In 1993 the scene pretty much split in two, half the dj's/producers decided to take the jungle/d+b route, the other half took up the happier side of hardcore. It was also around that time that all the music got a heck of a lot faster, going from 140 bpm in 1992 to 160-170bpm by 1994. Of course this was all happening over in the UK, I'm not sure why everything progressed so fast. My guess is that it was the insurgence of Extacy into the scene in the early 90's that had the producers thinking people would like the music faster to dance to. Before say 1992 LSD/Acid was the drug of choice as far as I know.

Anyway I'm talking like I know everything. I don't know shit compared to that site I posted before. If you people want to take a serious lesson, check this site out: www.oldskoolmadness.com

GOLD, PURE GOLD!!!!!! :c-tard:



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Old Feb 24, 04
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Originally posted by Plasticmotive:

Unfortunatly Chris Sheppard's mixes became more and more mainstream dance every release he put out. He tried to redeem himself by temporarily changing his name to Dogwhistle and he put out a few cd's that sounded a little more underground again, but it was basically just hard trance, and he played the same tracks every other hard trance dj played at the time. If you remember the group Love Inc, he was also the main man behind that act too, and that was as mainstream dance as you could get.
Now why does this sound so familiar...?
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Old Feb 25, 04
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haha. Ya why does everyone sell out?!?!

stupid question I guess, I hope I never sell out. lol



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