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Old Apr 04, 04
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Why Techno is so F**king Good

I’ve been thinking a lot about why I like techno. Jesus, it is repetitive just like everyone says, but there is something about it that really turns my crank. So after careful consideration, I’ve concluded that I love electronica because it’s a memory thing – I’ll get back to that but I was hoping some of you would comment on these thoughts – bounce your ideas off mine – ‘cause this music affects so few so much.

If I think about my first rave, I can only really remember a few things. I remember the apparent chaos of so many people dancing by themselves, the rush of E for the first time, the taste of Nerds when I was ripped, the constant satisfaction of smoking, the lasers…. I only remembered one track the whole night – ironically “Communication” - you know, the one that goes “Somebody Answer the Phone”. Anyway, although I roll my eyes when I think of that track now, remembering my own naivete, it still brings back all of those feelings, emotions and intense recollections.

I hated progressive for the longest time – and then I went to the SuperSweet that Nick Warren played at. Again, I swallowed a horse-pill and remember the deep, driving bass and crazy lighting rig. I remember smiling at girls, holding hands with a complete stranger, and the aura of a superstar DJ. And whenever I listen to driving progressive, I feel those feelings, and live those experiences all over again.

But my point is that every time I listen to an Anne Savage set, or Nick Warren Amsterdam, or Tiesto Energy 2000 or Northern Exposure or Greg Packer or whatever, I re-live those good times. Not particular moments per say, but a kind of general euphoria that surrounds musical events. They are an avenue down which I escape the everyday without drugs or booze. They have the ability to re-produce happy emotions, and further push me to dream about future ones. Techno is deep in my memory and god-damn it, it’s getting played at my wedding.

The guy below me is a F**king Momo

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Old Apr 04, 04
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Why do people always feel the need to put stars in the place of letters in swear words?

If you're going to fucking swear, you might as well go all out and do it.
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Old Apr 04, 04
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^^ exaclty, as for this thread, fuck it.

techno isnt good enough to be placed into a thread explaining why its so fuckin good.
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Old Apr 04, 04
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f**k why not. Maybe we f**king get use to it.

Oh yea,,, techno. drool.
:Techno: <----- that the techno smillies on this board...
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Old Apr 04, 04
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"techno" is music you feel, its not just music you hear!

the melodies shift your brain.......its hard to explain but, lets say you never heard this track before and your like " yeah i like this" and the track just goes exactly like want it too, and you go "thats fuckin awsome!"

i think this is due to the producer, and the way the track is formated in his/her head.... they put it the way they "FEEL" it, and when you hear it and it goes ecatcly the way you want it to, is cuz the "wave lengths" in you head match the way the producers "wave lenghts" where when they produced it .

ie. with all the right sounds you look for , and the way the melody flows, the stales, and the pitch shifts!...its all about how the producer "FELT" and the way thier brain wanted to process it!

so in a sence techno is about the way your brain talks!

this sounds like jabber, but i think it makes a bit of sence!

anyways

RAVE ON!!
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Old Apr 04, 04
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fuck loving music is all about the feel, the moments beind the song...the way it speaks in a sense...
like u say...its a brain thing...i just go nuts for those repetative riffs...along side with the pounding sounds of the bass...just put adrenaline in my blood and goosebumps on my skin..and just the song..if it really appeals...you will remeber it and love it.
None the less... i listen to trance...those alone tell a story...and if your brain works the way the music does...its just something worth it
man its just soo hard to explain
mixing is only half the fun..chooseing your favourite tracks that u feel...for others to feel
but producing...is taking what u feel....for other djs to feel and love...to spread to the world for the masses to enjoy
hahaha i make no sense
its all good tho
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Old Apr 04, 04
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^^ exaclty, as for this thread, fuck it.

techno isnt good enough to be placed into a thread explaining why its so fuckin good.
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Old Apr 04, 04
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If you could take whatever is in certain types of music (the type of music that a particular person gets a rush from) and put it in a bottle and sell it, you would be very rich.
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Old Apr 04, 04
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I love Techno... the darker and more machine sounding like, the better (that's just my opinion). Acid Tech is cool shit too.
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Old Apr 04, 04
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Acid techno for me. Don't get me wrong, I love the techno - faves would have to be Thomas Krome, Hardcell, pretty much anything off the Drumcode, Code Red, or Corb labels. Lately, though, I've been listening to way more stuff like off the 4x4 and Hydraulix labels, and lots of classic Liberator and Geezer acid.

So I had a bad techno experience the other day; I grabbed a bunch of random music off some friends on soulseek, queued up my playlist for the day, and set my player to random play - and eventually this *song* comes on. It's *brilliant* acid techno - called "Control", it's Christian Varela's remix of someone called "Secret Hero".

So I jump back on soulseek, and grab all the Secret Hero I can. And goddamn if it isn't all awesome! This is getting me excited, I've found a new artist making tracks that I love... I start ranting about it on IRC, and showing people these completely awesome tracks from this new guy. I dunno what it was, but something about his stuff just strikes me as *perfect*, and I'd never heard of him before.

Then I go to discogs.org, which tells me that Secret Hero "also records as D.A.V.E. the Drummer".

*sigh*. :)

Anyway - I think acid techno is the best of the technos, because it is techno that fucking knows where it's going. An acid techno track starts, and goes down a straight path without stopping for directions - I think the problem with some lesser techno (and IMHO nearly all "IDM") is that it tends to wander around a little bit in song structure, and not really have a solid destination. Y'know what I mean? Like, the acid tracks are tracks designed specifically to make people go off on the dancefloor; they're efficiently programmed to build or change a little bit every eight bars, a little more every 16 bars, a big change on 32 bars, and a really big change (RD-RD-RD-RD-CR!) every 128 bars. I guess you could say it leads you on a trip that everyone knows way and the destination, but the music is in how well you can describe the journey. :)
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Old Apr 04, 04
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I'm not sure if Ponz is talking about techno specifically or techno as in the catch-all term for electronic choonz.

As it stands, the main thing that really attracts many to it may be due to the fact that, in a world of electronic musical generators, the potential for musical exploration is nearly endless. For the longest time, we only had organic instruments to explore with and, while some of the greatest composers in history did wonders with them, not to mention oodles of jazz musicians, there still was a certain limitation. Now, you have all these crazy gizmos and tweakers that create an endless kalidescope of sonic treats where the only limitation to the producers is their own imagination.

This is one of the reasons perennials such as Aphex Twin, Orbital, The Future Sound Of London, and such ilk garner such acclaim; they truly explore what is possible within the realm of electonic rhythms and melodies.

As such, in my experience, those who enjoy it are also fascinated by the sonic exploration, snatching up whatever they find to discover what a producer has created.
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"techno" is music you feel, its not just music you hear!
You lost your argument right around "feel".

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the melodies shift your brain.......its hard to explain but, lets say you never heard this track before and your like " yeah i like this" and the track just goes exactly like want it too, and you go "thats fuckin awsome!"
I'd prefer to be surprised by a song that to have it be predictable, myself. Besides, I have a lot of love for music that rewards multiple listenings. If you get everything out of a song the first time you hear it, personally I find that a rather boring song.

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so in a sence techno is about the way your brain talks!
sed -e "s/techno/art/g" Your.Post > A.Far.More.Pertinent.Post

Your description should apply to any music, not just techno. Techno as a genre is about, in my opinion, mindfuckability using mechanical and repetitive means. That's as good as I can describe it aside from "The Way that is spoken of is not the One True Way" (Badly translated from Lao Tze).

Art is art. It's one of the things you can talk about forever and never truly get to the heart of.
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Then I go to discogs.org, which tells me that Secret Hero "also records as D.A.V.E. the Drummer".

*sigh*. :)
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Didn't you know Drew? There's something like 8 professional Acid Techno Producers.... They're all on every single Acid label as well under a kabillion different names. They just do different collaborations under a ton of different names.

Oh well. I highly agree on the Acid Techno being the Best Techno there is...

Damnit. I think I have to go and listen to Three Day Illegal Rave Party From Hell.
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Old Apr 05, 04
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i agree with both dj klockwize and sykonee.
maybe its just because electronic music is my favoritest that i am biased. but there are more emotions conveyed through synths and drum machines than through traditional instruments. other types of music can help amplify a feeling you are already.. feeling. angry people seem to listen to alot of death metal for example.. but you cant listen to death metal and become angry. electronic music is the only genre that can do that. its more pure or something..
also, more is possible than was with traditional instruments. the only limit is the producers imagination.
also, dont refer to all electronica as techno. it's not.
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Old Apr 05, 04
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144 bpm... The speed of conciousness... apparently

Alot of psytrance is played at this speed, and it keeps people energized and dancing all night, even without drugs.

Anything close to 144bpm will do the trick too, they all sync your brainwaves into mid delta range. (or mid theta, if your brain syncs to the 1st harmonic of the tempo... stuff that's 4 to the floor with an offbeat 8th note bassline can do this easily)

oh yeah

Delta range = deep sleep/dreaming
low/mid theta = autononomous functioning/trance state
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You lost your argument right around "feel".



I'd prefer to be surprised by a song that to have it be predictable, myself. Besides, I have a lot of love for music that rewards multiple listenings. If you get everything out of a song the first time you hear it, personally I find that a rather boring song.



sed -e "s/techno/art/g" Your.Post > A.Far.More.Pertinent.Post

Your description should apply to any music, not just techno. Techno as a genre is about, in my opinion, mindfuckability using mechanical and repetitive means. That's as good as I can describe it aside from "The Way that is spoken of is not the One True Way" (Badly translated from Lao Tze).

Art is art. It's one of the things you can talk about forever and never truly get to the heart of.

no my opinion should not be based on any genre, i was speficacly talking about "techno"!--where you listning to anything i said??--you always have sumthin to say to piss people off!

post you own opinion on the topic, dont pick apart other peoples! loser!

i have been djing for the past 4 years, so i think i know a thing or two about different genres and my opinion, hence the name of the thread was spacifically on techno!, which i spin the most!---you dont hear climax's is a hiphop song!
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no my opinion should not be based on any genre, i was speficacly talking about "techno"!--where you listning to anything i said??--you always have sumthin to say to piss people off!
You always have "sumthin" to say to piss me off. Be less of an idiot and I'll be less of an asshole.

I read what you said. Everything that you said is pretty much the same thing I'd say about any type of art. You didn't mention one thing in your entire post that was anywhere near specific towards techno. You mentioned melodies.... Here's a hint: Techno isn't that melodic! You said a bunch of stuff about how techno "makes you feel." I don't know how much attention you've been paying in your life, but that's the point of _ALL_ art.

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post you own opinion on the topic, dont pick apart other peoples! loser!
I did post my opinion. My opinion is that yours is stupid. Your opinion seems to be that I'm an asshole. So be it. You wouldn't be the first nor the last to say it. But I'm the one who paid attention to your post and you're the one hurling the insults.

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i have been djing for the past 4 years, so i think i know a thing or two about different genres and my opinion, hence the name of the thread was spacifically on techno!, which i spin the most!---you dont hear climax's is a hiphop song!
I've heard plenty of good "climax's" in a hip-hop song. Maybe you're just being a genre elitist about it. I don't know. And credentials mean shit to me. Azim's been DJing since I've been partying, but I sure as hell don't take his musical opinions without a fuckload of salt. So don't give me any of that shit. Don't go around waxing how fucking l33t you are because you used your mommy and daddy's allowance to buy a pair of tech 12s and as such you're now an afficianado at music. I didn't buy it from Tiesto, I sure as fucking hell ain't buying it from you. Go wave your dick around someone who cares however the fuck long you've been trying to get laid with the wheels of steel or whatever.
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Old Apr 05, 04
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techno is to music , as recycling is to garbage

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You always have "sumthin" to say to piss me off. Be less of an idiot and I'll be less of an asshole.

I read what you said. Everything that you said is pretty much the same thing I'd say about any type of art. You didn't mention one thing in your entire post that was anywhere near specific towards techno. You mentioned melodies.... Here's a hint: Techno isn't that melodic! You said a bunch of stuff about how techno "makes you feel." I don't know how much attention you've been paying in your life, but that's the point of _ALL_ art.



I did post my opinion. My opinion is that yours is stupid. Your opinion seems to be that I'm an asshole. So be it. You wouldn't be the first nor the last to say it. But I'm the one who paid attention to your post and you're the one hurling the insults.



I've heard plenty of good "climax's" in a hip-hop song. Maybe you're just being a genre elitist about it. I don't know. And credentials mean shit to me. Azim's been DJing since I've been partying, but I sure as hell don't take his musical opinions without a fuckload of salt. So don't give me any of that shit. Don't go around waxing how fucking l33t you are because you used your mommy and daddy's allowance to buy a pair of tech 12s and as such you're now an afficianado at music. I didn't buy it from Tiesto, I sure as fucking hell ain't buying it from you. Go wave your dick around someone who cares however the fuck long you've been trying to get laid with the wheels of steel or whatever.
hahhaha!! your a fuckin loser!!---i care about what you think as much as you do about what i think!---get a life!-find another hobby besides being a comp geek that has nothin better to do then play on the comp as an only means of enjoyment

as for "mommy and daddy" paying for my shit--you dont know me!--ive payed for everything i own out of my own pocket!-cant you tell that you are an outcasted poster on this site, no one likes you!---yo useemed to be on everybodies hate list last time i checked!---hahah
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Old Apr 05, 04
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music + love = life......

and thats all i have to say about that.

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Old Apr 05, 04
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Acid techno is some good shit. they n eed to play more techno, don't hear it around nearly enough these days
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Old Apr 05, 04
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techno is to music , as recycling is to garbage

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hmm
It may be more accurate saying Hiphop/turntablism in place of techno.
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Old Apr 05, 04
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hahhaha!! your a fuckin loser!!---i care about what you think as much as you do about what i think!---get a life!-find another hobby besides being a comp geek that has nothin better to do then play on the comp as an only means of enjoyment

as for "mommy and daddy" paying for my shit--you dont know me!--ive payed for everything i own out of my own pocket!-cant you tell that you are an outcasted poster on this site, no one likes you!---yo useemed to be on everybodies hate list last time i checked!---hahah
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I don't think you know who your fuckin with here.

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