reason

[meth0dical]

got this shit hooked up from a buddy, fuckin confusing!
anyone got any tips or tricks on any subject they care to share?

[decypher]

www.futureproducers.com/forum/

do a search im sure there is a WEALTH of information

[meth0dical]

word, thanks
er, mad werd!

[(val)Liam]

play with it as much as you can... and try to get a hold of some tutorial songs...

[Revolver]

get a midi keyboard i have one for sale if you want...its a miditech 49 key with all parameters you could need.

check http://www.reasonfreaks.com/

ive always liked this site for reason resources.

[meth0dical]

yea i found a lot of good reason sites after looking for a bit, theres tons of tutorials and shit out there :)

[-ff-]

speaking of reason - I have 2.0 and the soundbank, but I somehow lost the orkester CD - anyone know where i can DL it?

[P.A.R.T.Y]

Reason kinda sucks. I have the Orkester CD for reason 2. Your blown away because you never owned a decent synth.

[Revolver]

Reason kinda sucks.

are you fucking retarded?

Your blown away because you never owned a decent synth.

heh, i guess you are.

[Séguin]

There's nothing Reason can do that Fruityloops can't do, with a better user interface.

[P.A.R.T.Y]

Revolver~ Look, a decent synthesizer and Drum Machine, such as Roland Jupiter-8 combined with a Roland TR-909 blow away the Reason 2 program. I hate the samples in Reason 2, the algorythms sound like shit, their so digital and exact and sterile. I can almost instantly tell a song from Reason apart from a song written with true gear. It's good for a drumfill now and again. Next, judging me negatively only makes you look bad, I critisized Reason 2, not your bad breath, fool.
Sure Reason is fun, I mean it has a 16 bar looped drum machine full of horrible compressed digital drums, a horrible filtered sampler, horrible effects, etc, etc.. Reason SUX ass. Analog rules!

[Séguin]

I know a Jupiter 8 is all analog 'n' shit... but a JP-8000 (or 8080) is SO much more practical, cheaper. and a hell of alot lighter.

[Leviathan]

you make it sound like its shit, last I checked, people like BT, NIN and charlie clouser were using reason quite frequently and they all have access to all the "gear" they could ever dream of. Personally I like hardware just for ease of use but reason is a brilliant program.

its all personal preference. I would be willing to bet you couldn't tell the diffence between the two if they were both mastered properly.

Originally Posted by P.A.R.T.Y

Revolver~ Look, a decent synthesizer and Drum Machine, such as Roland Jupiter-8 combined with a Roland TR-909 blow away the Reason 2 program. I hate the samples in Reason 2, the algorythms sound like shit, their so digital and exact and sterile. I can almost instantly tell a song from Reason apart from a song written with true gear. It's good for a drumfill now and again. Next, judging me negatively only makes you look bad, I critisized Reason 2, not your bad breath, fool.
Sure Reason is fun, I mean it has a 16 bar looped drum machine full of horrible compressed digital drums, a horrible filtered sampler, horrible effects, etc, etc.. Reason SUX ass. Analog rules!

[P.A.R.T.Y]

Yeah, I did kinda bitch slap Reason. Well, I guess being able to import your own drum samples into the redrum is kinda kool and the advanced sampler's filter sux, but at least it works and its cheap. I know there are quite a few newbie producers these days who rely so heavily on Reason. I just want them to look past Reason and explore other options. There are some really awesome analog musical machines that put techno music on the map that are still available for a good price. The Jp-8000 is kinda nice ($800), lots of slider and contols, not a bad synth. I would look a bit older than the Jp-8000, might go back to the Korg monopoly or the Moog minimoog. Anything Roland from the MC202( $350) to the Juno series ($200-500). Some musicians aren't willing to make sacrifices, they get a free version of such and such software and then they think their the next Freddy Fresh or something. Going analog takes longer, but the reward is much greater. Good luck.

[Revolver]

hee hee hee, party ,i too am aware of the ''RESONIZED'' sound that alot of tracks have if they are used only with in reason with reason's very limited idea of what effests processing are....and whats worse,peoples limited scop of how to use them

but if you re-wire it into somthing a bit more heavy,like my buddys dose with logic or what i do in pro tools that you culd bang out some ripping stuff using reason and reason alone!

*digital vs analog*there is someting to be said about sound beign processd through actual circuts and transistors, ive hear it time and again when comparing urie1176 comps to digital, or a studer 2'' to a radar system...digital sounds cleaner but analog still has those dynamics we just cant let go of.

i understand your argument.

but stating that a jup 8 or a tr909 could whip reason? thats silly.

[Leviathan]

agreed!

Originally Posted by P.A.R.T.Y

Yeah, I did kinda bitch slap Reason. Well, I guess being able to import your own drum samples into the redrum is kinda kool and the advanced sampler's filter sux, but at least it works and its cheap. I know there are quite a few newbie producers these days who rely so heavily on Reason. I just want them to look past Reason and explore other options. There are some really awesome analog musical machines that put techno music on the map that are still available for a good price. The Jp-8000 is kinda nice ($800), lots of slider and contols, not a bad synth. I would look a bit older than the Jp-8000, might go back to the Korg monopoly or the Moog minimoog. Anything Roland from the MC202( $350) to the Juno series ($200-500). Some musicians aren't willing to make sacrifices, they get a free version of such and such software and then they think their the next Freddy Fresh or something. Going analog takes longer, but the reward is much greater. Good luck.

[Royal_Phunk]

Originally Posted by P.A.R.T.Y

Going analog takes longer, but the reward is much greater. Good luck.

Its all about the best of both worlds imo, Reason is a good place to start but you sure as shit cant make stuff sound pro exactly. But a minimoog is definately on my shopping list, good call.
:364:

[(val)Liam]

just a question...

how does one rewire reason into adobe audition? whenever I try it comes out as pure fuss...

edit: on the debate:

I think the problem has more to do with producers not being picky enough with their synths, fxs, etc. or not fitting the right sounds into the right atmosphere... there is so much shit that I've heard where the beat and the bassline don't even have the same time... when I make a track, I try to be as sure as possible that the sounds fit correctly... even if I really like one sound or synth or whatever, I'll save it for another track because it won't fit with what I want to create... I personally think a track is as good as the time, effort, and love put into it... I can spend weeks to months on a track, and after that I'm always contemplating in my head how I could make it better... you could have all the "gear" in the world and still make pieces of pure shit... same applies to any form of music... owning a $4000 Gibson guitar doesn't make you Jimmy Page...

[P.A.R.T.Y]

Yo,
So far their have been some really good comments posted.There seems to be a common ground when it comes to Analog and Digital equiptment. I personally like the VST and Logic plug-ins, They sound impecable. Truly impecable! I pride myself on using pure analog gear. Reason has found no home in my tunes even though I have owned it for years. I have heard many musicians like BT use Reason, but not being a BT fan, I don't really care.

[Krusha]

Originally Posted by Robb Peppertre

There's nothing Reason can do that Fruityloops can't do, with a better user interface.

rewire

thanks for coming out

[.funktr0n]

Originally Posted by Robb Peppertre

There's nothing Reason can do that Fruityloops can't do, with a better user interface.

Sure there is, Reason can make tracks that in fact DO NOT sound like 80's videogame beats.

[(val)Liam]

I think there should be more focus on the music as opposed to the tools being used... if you like the music, it shouldn't really matter what it was made with...

[ebbomega]

BUY A REAL SYNTH!
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Reason = Teh rox0r.

[Séguin]

Originally Posted by P.A.R.T.Y

Yeah, I did kinda bitch slap Reason. Well, I guess being able to import your own drum samples into the redrum is kinda kool and the advanced sampler's filter sux, but at least it works and its cheap. I know there are quite a few newbie producers these days who rely so heavily on Reason. I just want them to look past Reason and explore other options. There are some really awesome analog musical machines that put techno music on the map that are still available for a good price. The Jp-8000 is kinda nice ($800), lots of slider and contols, not a bad synth. I would look a bit older than the Jp-8000, might go back to the Korg monopoly or the Moog minimoog. Anything Roland from the MC202( $350) to the Juno series ($200-500). Some musicians aren't willing to make sacrifices, they get a free version of such and such software and then they think their the next Freddy Fresh or something. Going analog takes longer, but the reward is much greater. Good luck.

Ya, I used to have an MC202. That think had a fat fucking sound. I kinda miss it. I had a friend in my neighbourhood who had a Mono/Poly, PolySix, Juno 106, and a whole bungh of other analog gear.

[SLOW DJS]

If your gonna use "reason" you have to get "recycle" they go hand in hand.