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Nov 19, 04
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Good post Aaron :) 
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Nov 20, 04
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Whats funny is the majority of the local people playing "promos" crack me up. They're usually just "Promos" they've ordered from the internet, or they were the first ones to nab them at the store. To me, those aren't really even "promos", cause they're out there for the public to snatch up. A promo to me is something that a label or a specific artist has given to you to play before it's available to everyone else.
Now another thing is, just because you have some new track, doesn't make it a GOOD track. But again, as dabbler said, a lot of the stuff that we see are future dancefloor rockers/future classics. My arguement to the playing what you want makes you a better dj. If you're playing and you don't like it. You're a poser. But if you like the NEWEST "PROMO"!!! Then fucking play it. ;) DJ's aren't special.
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Nov 20, 04
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Nov 20, 04
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grr... this is a sore spot for me... i play "promos" or new stuff if it's really good, and of course it's great to play fresh tunes, but give me someone mixing up classic hip hop with rock with bits of rad jungle tunes that i haven't heard in ages because everyone stopped playing them when they came of promo and got released (hullo, Terence!) over some promowhore top 10 jungle hipster, ANYDAY.
i mean.. i think the future is in adding your own stuff.. produce and make your own tracks, then you can be SURE nobody will have them... pick up a microphone and sing (but only if you can, and please don't fake a rastafarian accent) pick up an instrument (look at andrew spence aka slim) or even do live pa. you may soon spot a strange little crew - i'll be playing basslines off a hardware synth while mixing records into loops being sequenced live by my partner who simultaneously plays drums, and wielding a kaoss pad to manipulate my friend's vocals and maybe stealing the mic from her a few times.... (shameless group promo, hehe) =) screw promos.. create, create, perform, integrate, do something real, but keep rinsin' out the dancefloor!
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Nov 20, 04
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^but totally under appreciated by ravers
anyways.....im not saying "i dont like" playing "ravey breaks" and other break off genres, i just have more fun playing some other stuff
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Nov 20, 04
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Nov 20, 04
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i don't totally get all the talk about people buying promos for promos sake.
i could just be off my nutsac but what average dj living in vancouver can afford to walk into a shop and buy a record they dont like just because it's new? add to that a dj insdustry that isnt exactly paying people life sustaining income, (or even record habit sustaining) incomes that it once did in the past how can the average dj thats playing out not be 'keeping it real',. prolly more generalizing to jungle on this but i think its relatively true throughout, but i dont think theres much room for dj's that arent doing what they personally feel.
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Nov 20, 04
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what he said!
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Nov 20, 04
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When I first started I used to be all about spending 2x as much cash to get records a month before their release. What a huge waste of money that was =P
I do get quite a few legit trance promos these days, but would only play ones that I thought would fit into my set and rock a dancefloor. I'd never play a promo for the sake of it being a promo; that's just stupid. By the end of next year I'd like to be playing sets that consisted of 70% original productions though, but for the time being I don't have enough stuff made to do that.
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Nov 21, 04
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lots. trust. though not so much that they actually dislike the record, just that they wouldn't like it enough to buy it if it wasn't a promo.
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Nov 21, 04
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why not semi-Live PA?
if I was getting gigs DJing, I wouldn't just dj... I'd bring my guitar, my didgeridoo, my beribau, my djembe, hook up a lap and start improvizing my own creative elements to the songs... you could start producing your own stuff and then improv new elements to your own tracks while you're playing them too... then all your shows are "fresh"
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Nov 22, 04
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Nov 22, 04
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I buy tracks simply if i like it or not, not any certain style, just if im feelin the track or not. Although i have had my share of impulse buying when flipping through the promo's, it was because i didn't think it over, not because it was just a promo. A good track is a good track, doesen't matter if its old, to me it only matters if the track is so played out its painful to hear it again and again. I always make sure i listen to a track a good 9 or 10 times before i know i want it.
Good points in this thread, originality is key for sticking out, whether its through your track selection, production or improvisation of musical intstruments. Those dj's are simply more fun to watch. No variety gets boring and contradicts the reason some people listen to this kinda music for. Last edited by decypher; Nov 22, 04 at 09:23 AM.
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Nov 22, 04
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Nov 23, 04
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Nov 23, 04
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meh, as a multi-genre dj that attempts to mix several styles in a single set... my advice is: don't do it!
it's fuckin expensive to maintain 7-8 genres especially when there's great music coming out in all genres and tons of classics that you can still pickup. And then lugging all those records out to a gig - ow... my back... On top of that, half the people in the crowd won't understand what you're doing, the other half won't like it and just wants to here the original, unmixed tune, the third half are too drunk and aren't paying attention, the 4th half just wants to drunkeningly stumble up and ask for inane requests while you're in the middle of sustaining a mix (try keeping a track with a live drummer in sync with a track that uses a drum machine... it's really hard), the 5th half just wants you to stick to their preferred genre of choice ("play more jungle!"). But the 6th half of the people who appreciates what you're doing really does make it worth it. uh... yea... So in conclusion: COME TO THE MET ON SATURDAYS - we mix lots of different stuff and do it really well! and you get drunk for cheep! that's it. PS Z-Trip is my dj hero Last edited by dj_soo; Nov 23, 04 at 05:45 AM.
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Nov 23, 04
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