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Old Jan 22, 05
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Comprehensive Electronic Music Genre Guide

You don't know nothing!! ... This guy does! ISHKUR.

Check this out: Ishkur's newly updated comprehensive (frickin really well done dude!) electronic music genre guide, with lotsa samples!!

Very opinionated wicked sense of humour critiques of all electronic music genre's with the knowledge to back up your brutal yet hilarious honesty.

This just kicks ass: http://www.ishkur.com/music/

So FNK'ers, what's your favorite genre/sub-genre?!

My favorites: under the Trance genre (of course!) the Hard Dance sub-genre: Hardstyle, NRG (Hard NRG) and Hard Trance. (Sublime, Sydney, Australia club nights woot!) But let's not forget the Psy, Dutch, Anthem and Progressive Trance. The rest of that trance is shit okay trance haters! So now you can at least get it straight before you dis.

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Old Jan 22, 05
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SPEED GARAGE AKA...the worst music in tha world..



How did this music get past the censors? Who greenlighted this project at the Official Electronic Music Genre Standards and Classifications Consortium? I'm still at a loss as to what it's trying to do. Is it funky? No. Those dulled basslines sound like someone farting into a pillow. Or like the school teacher in the Charlie Brown cartoons scolding some child for his inability to spit, sing and gargle at the same time. Is it soulful? No. Time-stretched vocals never had any appeal, ever. There's no real hook, no real melody. It doesn't even pay any decent homage to Classic Garage. So what the hell is this stuff doing?! Sucking, by the sounds of it. But as bad as it sounds, it has actually managed to find a way to get WORSE over the years, dumping the time-stretched vocals in favour of......you guessed it: those annoying, crooning Mariah Carey wannabe diva hooks. Oh, fucking hell.


IM SORRY LISA BUT THIS GUY KNOWS ALOT OF SHIT
BUT HE KNOWS NOTHING ABoUT SPEED GARAGE!

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Old Jan 22, 05
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Ishkur(kent) is a dick and he's balding like a mother fucker.... hehehehee. I was drinking with him at BigTrouble last Wednessday. Just like the old days at Cheeky...

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Old Jan 22, 05
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IM SORRY LISA BUT THIS GUY KNOWS ALOT OF SHIT
BUT HE KNOWS NOTHING ABoUT SPEED GARAGE!
speed garage fucking rules...i think that "Ishkur" guy needs to get laid
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Old Jan 22, 05
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IM SORRY LISA BUT THIS GUY KNOWS ALOT OF SHIT
BUT HE KNOWS NOTHING ABoUT SPEED GARAGE!

In Look at his whole setup I notice he skimps in most places... But then again it would have to be 100times as big to fit it all. And really Garage was such a niche any way. Unless you where in it, then really what would you know.

PS why not make sugestion to him for tracks.

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Old Jan 22, 05
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i remember when this was a part of loungex...
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Old Jan 22, 05
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1998 called.
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Old Jan 22, 05
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I never said the opinions are right (about Speed Garage, or Trance, or whatever) - just that they are backed up with samples and witty remarks.
But ya gotta admit that the guy's onto something with a lot of em.

This is certain to get a lot of people all worked because Ishkur's going off on their favorite kind of electronic but it's good work. And when anything positive is said by one person (me for instance) it's game for an all around good FNK bashing. Let's not turn this into another bitch-fest whored out thread eh. "Take it with a pound of salt" and stick to the positive and the purpose! *PLUR*

So Pat likes Speed Garage. Yes it is alright, I like the speed to it. Anything over 120 bpm does something funny to my brain and I like it!!

I think the section on Hardcore is crazay! Friends (in other countries) have told me about raves that play Terrorcore, Speedcore and Gabber: you walk into an auditorium full of kids just punching the air, with looks on their faces off their heads. Heh, picture that shit.
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Old Jan 22, 05
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1998 called.
Bwahahahahaha.....Ishkur's rave page!!!!!
Is Kent still as much of a dick now as he was back then???
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Old Jan 22, 05
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1998 called.
True. But if you were trying to find samples for a lot of those genre's, what would you pick? The classics of that genre? Seems reasonable.

Some genre's haven't even been touched or much has happened since then anyway - and rightly so. *shudder to think*

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Old Jan 22, 05
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Boy, Ish sure doesn't like breaks much.
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Old Jan 22, 05
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1998 called.
man im embarassed to visit that site in the privacy of my own home, yet alone post about it.. 1998 called? thats the least of her worries,,,
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Old Jan 22, 05
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In fact, Ish dogs pretty much every genre I like..

*closes site*
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Old Jan 22, 05
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Go read it again kid,,, he likes breaks. just not shitty breaks.
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Old Jan 22, 05
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SPEED GARAGE AKA...the worst music in tha world..



How did this music get past the censors? Who greenlighted this project at the Official Electronic Music Genre Standards and Classifications Consortium? I'm still at a loss as to what it's trying to do. Is it funky? No. Those dulled basslines sound like someone farting into a pillow. Or like the school teacher in the Charlie Brown cartoons scolding some child for his inability to spit, sing and gargle at the same time. Is it soulful? No. Time-stretched vocals never had any appeal, ever. There's no real hook, no real melody. It doesn't even pay any decent homage to Classic Garage. So what the hell is this stuff doing?! Sucking, by the sounds of it. But as bad as it sounds, it has actually managed to find a way to get WORSE over the years, dumping the time-stretched vocals in favour of......you guessed it: those annoying, crooning Mariah Carey wannabe diva hooks. Oh, fucking hell.


IM SORRY LISA BUT THIS GUY KNOWS ALOT OF SHIT
BUT HE KNOWS NOTHING ABoUT SPEED GARAGE!
shuuuuuuuuut uuuuuuuuuuup!
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Old Jan 22, 05
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Go read it again kid,,, he likes breaks. just not shitty breaks.

Ooohh. I see, how could I be so stupid! What an open minded, educated reply that was! Thanks man!
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Old Jan 22, 05
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Ooohh. I see, how could I be so stupid! What an open minded, educated reply that was! Thanks man!
He like a small type of breaks... I don't agree with the hate of the others, but I agree with what he likes.
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Old Jan 22, 05
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this guy's opinions about nu skool breaks are teh bunkness...
he hates it, but then makes up a genre of it that he likes...
can we say "I dunno what the fuck I'm on about, but I sure am better than you!"
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Old Jan 22, 05
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Turntablism

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ATTENTION ALL DJS: IF YOU ARE NOT CAPABLE OF DOING THIS, YOU ARE NOT A "MUSICIAN". In the world of playing recorded music, one genre stands far and away from the rest as the one true art of competence, skill, and showmanship: Turntablism. The idea that a record can be scratched, back-spinned, cutted, sliced, spliced, and manipulated as a deliberate musical feature warrants so much praise and respect I crap my pants just thinking about it. It doesn't even seem right to call them DJs. It's unfair that these people are given the same title as some idiot blathering away on morning radio, or a tacky human stereo playing cds at a wedding. That's just impolite and rude. Call them what they really are: Record Gods.
This is great, all DJ's that can not do this take note.
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Old Jan 22, 05
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But in all honesty, you have to be as un-biased as possible when you're doing stuff like this. It's supposed to be informative, not opinionated. You can't say, well speed garage is kind of like house blah blah blah, but it sucks, so don't listen to it. I personally really don't care what this guy thinks, but i'm sure a lot of newbies would. And be turned off by a genre they potentially have never even heard. This guide is terrible for that.

If it said "Breakbeats were defined back in the 70's with b-boys and artists like grand master flash, ghetto blasters, etc. The genre has since evolved many ways including getting faster, darker and more danceable" and so on, i'd be wanting to check breaks out. Not the opinionated crap that's on there.

You gotta remember this guide is made for people who have never heard of this stuff before.

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Old Jan 22, 05
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then again we are talking about Cunt,,, errrrr I mean Kent.
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Old Jan 22, 05
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Yeah I remember this dude from Loungex, what the story with this guy anyways?
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Old Jan 22, 05
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But in all honesty, you have to be as un-biased as possible when you're doing stuff like this. It's supposed to be informative, not opinionated. You can't say, well speed garage is kind of like house blah blah blah, but it sucks, so don't listen to it. I personally really don't care what this guy thinks, but i'm sure a lot of newbies would. And be turned off by a genre they potentially have never even heard. This guide is terrible for that.

If it said "Breakbeats were defined back in the 70's with b-boys and artists like grand master flash, ghetto blasters, etc. The genre has since evolved many ways including getting faster, darker and more danceable" and so on, i'd be wanting to check breaks out. Not the opinionated crap that's on there.

You gotta remember this guide is made for people who have never heard of this stuff before.
I think he just has fun making his web site. If people read his site and base their musical preferences on it than I'm sure they'll have a new favorite genre in a couple days anyway.
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Old Jan 22, 05
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i've met kent a few times, he's a stand up guy in person.
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Old Jan 22, 05
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that link is pretty old
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