when cueing do you use both ear cups or just 1?

[Alex_Johnson]

topic! and also seeing as i dont play at many venues yet! cause im fairly new! do most clubs have mixer's with split cue? cause i prefer to use the split cue method insted of the one earcup? thanks guys

[dabbler]

when i first started practising at home, i trained my ears to pick up
on one track each. so my left ear is my cue of the tune i'm going to mix in,
and my right ear is listening to the master mix (the tune playing out)
i totally can't mix in only headphones, but that's basically cause i've never done it that way.
either way works, i have friends who mix in headphones only, and i'd say
more often than not, it's because they can't play loud at home,
so they've had to practise in their headphones.

[ppcock]

i cup one ear, i can mix in my headphones but i've always been able to play loud.

I prefer when im doing a show to cup into one ear.. it makes me look much much cooler.

[decypher]

I can mix with only headphones if necessary but i dont like too. I usually have the right cup on my right ear, left one exposed to monitor.. Get it beatmatched close, then split the channel on my right side to fine tune it, then i hit the cue button on my mixer to listen to the postfader sound, it also lets u listen to how the EFX are going to process the sound before doing it on the PA... then after all that i bring in the track....

[dj_soo]

1 cup for the cue - take off the headphones when in the mix with the cup near my ear so I can occasionally telephone it to fine tune the mix.

I despise mixing in my headphones and never use split cue cause my home mixer doesn't have that option.

[decypher]

Originally Posted by mofo-x

1 cup for the cue - take off the headphones when in the mix with the cup near my ear so I can occasionally telephone it to fine tune the mix.

I despise mixing in my headphones and never use split cue cause my home mixer doesn't have that option.

yeh i take my headphones off all together sometimes when im starting to get confident in the mix, i usually dart back and forth. Although i do love the split cue function though...

[klockwize]

1 ear

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[mapleleaf4ever]

1 Ear

[Akeel]

split cue is only useful if you u dont have a monitor available and are playing in a big room so it wouldnt be accurate to mix off the mains.

[decypher]

Originally Posted by Akeel

split cue is only useful if you u dont have a monitor available and are playing in a big room so it wouldnt be accurate to mix off the mains.

yeh i dont have appropriate space to setup a monitor right next to me. and for some reason i get a slight 2ms or so delay, possibly the receiver im using? So when its beat matched(1 ear), its always slightly off, and if its slightly off its beatmatched when it comes out of my jbl towers. i dunno. I find its much easier to mix without the cue split on other setups. But at home i have to use the cue split to make sure things are locked down.

[(val)Liam]

the monitors are normally so loud that they suffice... and split cueing gets more difficult... because then its like listening to three different tracks...

but I'd rather split cue with the monitors off...

[u_kno_it]

1 ear all the way ;)

[dj_soo]

Originally Posted by decypher

yeh i dont have appropriate space to setup a monitor right next to me. and for some reason i get a slight 2ms or so delay, possibly the receiver im using? So when its beat matched(1 ear), its always slightly off, and if its slightly off its beatmatched when it comes out of my jbl towers. i dunno. I find its much easier to mix without the cue split on other setups. But at home i have to use the cue split to make sure things are locked down.

Are you using a digital receiver by any chance?

The digital receiver I have has like a couple miliseconds of delay so it's near impossible to truly mix the way I like (monitor for playing track, 1 headphone for cued track). I actually had to go and get an analog receiver for my DJing and just swap the cables for my speakers when I want to DJ or watch a movie in 5.1.

[Alex_Johnson]

well for me i use spilt cue cause whenever i try the 1 ear cup to me it sounds beat macthed and when i bring in the song lets just say car crash! but i havent trained my self well enough yet for 1 ear cup so for now i only use split cue! thanks guys for the post's

[decypher]

Originally Posted by mofo-x

Are you using a digital receiver by any chance?

The digital receiver I have has like a couple miliseconds of delay so it's near impossible to truly mix the way I like (monitor for playing track, 1 headphone for cued track). I actually had to go and get an analog receiver for my DJing and just swap the cables for my speakers when I want to DJ or watch a movie in 5.1.

phew so im not an idiot. For like a year i thought i just really sucked, until i started doing split cue and my mixes started staying together nicely. Then as my ear for music developed i realized theres a delay. It has DSP and all that crap u dont really need. i tried putting it onto different settings, normal, etc etc. nothing. I might just eventually hook up my studio reference monitors for booth. circumvent my towers for mixing all together.

[dj_soo]

what kind of receiver? Sony? I'm pretty sure all Sony digital receivers have a minor delay and there's no way to stop it...

[Rytalin]

I've gotten used to mixing mostly in headphones... dabbler said it... pretty much cos I'm not able to play loud, and have shitty speakers. But at the same time, I kind of prefer syncing two tracks together while listening to them both in headphones. (or both on speakers for that matter) I've found that when one track is playing on headphones and one on the monitor, they can sound synced enough, but when you bring it in, it's not as synced as you thought.

That could just be a shitty monitor issue too though.

[ill-esha]

you know, I wish I could mix in just my headphones. It'd be a useful skill for all those times where the monitor craps out. but.. I can't. I've always learned with the headphone on one ear and the other ear against the monitor.

but PLEASE... NOVICE DJS.. LISTEN TO A TIP FROM SOMEONE WHO SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER...

ALTERNATE YOUR EARS IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO THIS!

I am now much, much, much more deaf in my right ear than my left. it fucking SUCKS. as an audio engineer, everything sounds slightly skewed to me. When I'm talking on my cell phone, I will crank the volume up until I suddenly realize that by switching to the left ear the sound is far clearer, cause I'm less deaf

SAVE YOUR HEARING.

or hey, wear earplugs, that works too.

[dj_soo]

feh - earplugs are for the weak.

[Avrum Gold]

1 ear...

when I started mixing I used to play in my headphones, I could play loud, but I found my sony 700's cleaner, so I stayed in my headphones.

then after once or twice playing out in my first year when the system cliped out, and I was still rocking in my headphones, I felt I needed to be more in the room, so I started mixing with one ear.

now I mostly use my phone (same 700 but it busted so I only have the cup now no bracket, and i really like it better that way) for cueing and finding the first beat, or to sort it out if it is skating. I use a makkie dj monitor so volume is not a problem.

I play mostly live now because I found that the phones sound dif then the room (most of the time), and I don't care really how good it sounds in my phones I care about the room.

my $0.02

[Alex_Johnson]

my worst fear is playing live at a club and fuckin up cause they dont have split cue on the mixer although they should cause most new mixers have em! cause i cant train my self with 1 cup at home cause i too am starting too think there is a delay in my system and well i dont know what kind to get that wont have a delay! but any wayz thanks guys for all the reply's :)

[Crazy Dave]

Originally Posted by dabbler

when i first started practising at home, i trained my ears to pick up
on one track each. so my left ear is my cue of the tune i'm going to mix in,
and my right ear is listening to the master mix (the tune playing out)
i totally can't mix in only headphones, but that's basically cause i've never done it that way.
either way works, i have friends who mix in headphones only, and i'd say
more often than not, it's because they can't play loud at home,
so they've had to practise in their headphones.

yup... shit when I first start to played out the moniters through me off. I ended up getting head phones that blocked the most sound out.

Now I start my mix in the headphone but need the full moniter to keep the mix in.

[NinjaBoy]

I mix personally just in my headphones, then take them off when I bring in the other track, but keep one ear close, with the track that's being mixed in.

You never know what the set up is going to be like at a club or rave so it's best to know how to to do it both ways.

[ppcock]

Originally Posted by Alex_Johnson

my worst fear is playing live at a club and fuckin up cause they dont have split cue on the mixer although they should cause most new mixers have em! cause i cant train my self with 1 cup at home cause i too am starting too think there is a delay in my system and well i dont know what kind to get that wont have a delay! but any wayz thanks guys for all the reply's :)

dont rely on mixers.. rely on your ears.. once you fuck up and think about it you'll continue to fuck up

ps: stop being a dj.. you're clearly not doing it for the right reasons.

"i cant wait to spin at this club and this club!!!! What's music?!"

[dj_soo]

just make sure you don't get a digital receiver meant for movies - don't use a 5.1 or DTS receiver for mixing if you don't want a delay.