Changing synth beat structure into Real Instrument beat structure?

[Goodfellow]

I got a buddy who is amazing at producing rap beats. I was thinkin to myself how unbelievable these beats would be if I could pay to get the : synth basslines --> real bass guitar, synth piano--> real piano, etc etc

Im puttin together a CD that's why I'm wondering. How do you think I should go about doing this? Any help is appreciated.

[NinjaBoy]

So your friend has a series of drum pattrens you want to record over?

[optimum sound]

well im not an expert but my guess is you would have to transcribe the notes to written music. I dont know what the difference for sheet music (actually I dont even know if you call it sheet music) between a guitar and drums is, but I know for a fact that its written differently.
What program does he make beats with? I know fruity has a piano roll so you could start there. Reason also has one. I think putting the beats into music sheets is definetly the start. If you play an instrument that would help too.

[Goodfellow]

Originally Posted by NinjaBoy

So your friend has a series of drum pattrens you want to record over?

Drum patterns, no, SICK beats, yes!

see he does a lot of sound manipulation compression all that shit on his synths in his songs, so I'd keep that aspect of it.. the drumbeats/claps sound fine as well.. but the basslines I want written in with bass guitar .. and the piano written in with real piano. Those are basically the only 2 things I'd change.

he uses uhhmm.. Pro Tools I believe? I'll double check that, and in the mean time wait for somebody who knows how to translate computer notes to real music sheet notes.. I know there's a way. I just don't know how to do it. I guess I'll have to look for piano/bass players.. I mean, I know how to play that stuff but I'm not very good and the instruments I don't own.. so I'd rather just pay somebody to do it. I know enough about cubase to easily throw their recorded stuff over the beat, and chop out the stuff I don't want. *well I guess I'd use whatever he's using to chop, but anyway* Then I can record our vocals over it.

[optimum sound]

well, midi is your friend. So start there. Im looking for a music theory file I got. Ill post it when I find it.

[optimum sound]

Heres a site that I frequent.

http://www.musictheory.net/

Try and see if you can understand, I dont think its too hard if youre not a complete noob. Your friend might even be able to figure it out since he already makes beats.

[decypher]

If u wanna record live piano and bass. Your gonna need about 3 mic's for the piano. One to put above the piano, and 2 mic's to place a 3:1 ratio apart, one on the bass strings the other on the treble strings. For a bass, you'll need one mic to mic the amp, and a DI box to do a direct input signal. You can use these recordings to replace the digitally produced instruments he has used in pro tools.

[Code]

If you want to re-record in your home, just rent or borrow a high end workstation for the piano part. The Motif ES has a triple strike piano voice available from Ksounds. Alot of players will do their thing for free, but it won't cost you very much if you have to pay for a session bass player for a few hours. Warmth comes from a decent sound source to begin with, either recorded yourself, or sampled. You could try running the audio through a money channel, ie..high end <insert favorite name here> pre amps and hardware, one track at a time. If using Cubase, depending on the version, it should have something called "True Tape" which you can apply to incoming audio and should help. Pro Tools has many plug-ins that do this same thing and can very due to budget.

Cody

[Goodfellow]

Decypher, like I said I'm just gunna pay somebody to session for me .. but they'd need their own way of recording.

Actually though, I've been talking to one of my friends who is a DJ/producer and he said he's gunna take the beats Im gunna use, and write in real piano / bass.. cept technically with a computer , but they'll still be live sampled piano/bass .. but i dno if it will genuinely give me the "feel" im lookin for.. hm. we'll see how it goes. I'm just gunna seperate the beat into each sound, and export them into midi/wave files and he'll do the rest.