new dnb tracks

[ppcock]

How can local artists get new tracks to be listened to without getting quick cuts?

I was at lotus tonight enjoying some great dnb... Krusha played a track that he made and i was loving it. It was dark, heavy basslines and seriously twisted. All of a sudden it was cut to some dnb with vocals, your average shit.. (still being good but a huge change from the dark dnb)

If you were krusha dont you think you'd be a little upset if another dj just faded into another track.. having the listener not even respect what one producer put so much effort into?
If i was playing at a party and a dj put on some amazing stuff that i've never heard.. fuck yeah, i'd let it play out and manage a set that i could work on using that track as the starting song to my set. Even if i wanted to go minimal, i'd ignore it and keep building.

im really drunk so... krusha, that track you played was brilliant.

[decypher]

lol.... 1st post.

[Edoe]

yeah i agree
that seems extremely disrespectful
but then again its the dj's call right
if he wants to cut out of some new shit and ppl are diggin it
makes him look bad, no?
unless of course the song wasn't good
all a matter of opinion
because theres always that random x factor

[dj_soo]

welcome to dnb - it's the big thing to mix out as fast as possible.

[ill-esha]

I once had a ridiculous demo CD given to me that had something like 72 tracks over the space of the CD. It was pretty much all teasers and cuts. Every time a bassline dropped it would last for about 4 bars.

Obviously if the crowd is digging it DJs should keep it going longer - but think about it. The only thing the DJ can really do to actually involve themselves in the performance is to mix and blend tunes that they think go well together. I have several CDs full of amazing tunes that people have made that are fresh, but I'm not going to play each one of them from beginning to end, nor am I going to rewind unless people start screaming their heads off.

[dj_soo]

well, it helps that the grand majority of modern dnb tunes are so frightfully boring and repetitive that you wouldn't really want to listen to the same tune unmixed for more than 2 minutes...

I once had a ridiculous demo CD given to me that had something like 72 tracks over the space of the CD

heh - i think a lot of djs haven't gotten over the perceived notion that their track listing size is indicative of the size of their penis.

um... myself included :P

[angst]

Dark and brooding into vocal geihness, sounds like Soda has struck again. If I'm tagging with someone and I want the track to play out, then I simply tell whomever, "let it play."

[dabbler]

there is also the point of, sometimes a track is clearing the dancefloor. this may mean drastic measures to mix out ASAP (despite the fact that ppcock likes it) :P

[dabbler]

i have a theory about how since less people smoke now there are more non-smoking dj's, and the non-smoking dj's mix faster cuz that's all they have to do behind the decks.
same for dj's who don't scratch (like me) nothing else to do but mix since i'm sure as hell not gonna stand there and wait for 4 minutes....
72 tracks on one cd... wasn't that angst? :P

[ill-esha]

same for dj's who don't scratch (like me) nothing else to do but mix since i'm sure as hell not gonna stand there and wait for 4 minutes....

Try MCing. Actually, don't. But there's all kinds of fun things you can do while mixing and not smoking. Like playing keyboards, or operating effects pads. I do all of those things at once occasionally and it keeps it exciting (I run out of hands a lot).

I saw some guy with a bass guitar slung low who kept playing bass solos over tracks. It was cool. Vespers and Spence play sax..

Dabs, if it's too complex for you you could always try the harmonica, or the tambourine. ;)

[dabbler]

ha ha ha. be that as it may, i have no interest in adding anything else to the tunes, i don't usually find it sounds good

[angst]

Originally Posted by dabbler

i have a theory about how since less people smoke now there are more non-smoking dj's, and the non-smoking dj's mix faster cuz that's all they have to do behind the decks.
same for dj's who don't scratch (like me) nothing else to do but mix since i'm sure as hell not gonna stand there and wait for 4 minutes....
72 tracks on one cd... wasn't that angst? :P

nope, not I - Soundmurderer "Wired for Sound Mix" 61 tracks in 70 min.

Most I've gone through is 8 records in 2 1/2 min. (had to stack em), but that was just for an intro where i was just using short soundbites.

[ppcock]

Originally Posted by ill-esha

Try MCing. Actually, don't.

That'd be sweet.

I'd have him on my next dnb mix.

[dj_soo]

Originally Posted by dabbler

nothing else to do but mix since i'm sure as hell not gonna stand there and wait for 4 minutes....

You should be doing the robot dance like John B :D

[Bevvy Swift]

Originally Posted by ill-esha

Try MCing. Actually, don't.

i would pay good money to see that. sorta like moby meets eminem? :P

[dabbler]

hahah, ya the robot dance would work, but i can't wear that much makeup all the time.

[Wood]

nothing wrong with a little rapid-fire mixing. how much of a dnb tune do you need to hear anyways? 32 bars past the drop & you've pretty much got the gist of it.

[twentyHz]

Twas I that cut George's track short the other night. No disrespect at all... if I had known the tune was his, it would have got the proper rinse out.
Its hard when your playing 1s with 3 other DJs, whom all play different styles of the sound. Dabs is right though... if a track ain't doing it regardless of who made it, you got to mix it up, cause its all about the dancefloor and not the punters around it.

-s

[automatic]

^plus he was hammered!

i should point out when you're playing "ones" at the end of the night you shouldn't expect ANYONE to let a tune ride, the whole point of ones is to bandgi tout as quick as possible. george should have dropped that one earlier in his set.

and i'm buying dabbler a kazoo for next week! the next thing you know he'll be signed to either technique or whatever hazard's label is....

"toooooot-tooooooot-toot-toot-toot-toooooooot-toooooooot!"

[automatic]

Originally Posted by ppcock

How can local artists get new tracks to be listened to without getting quick cuts?

come down to the lotus early and we always let local producers listen to their new tracks on the soundsystem, even if they're only half-finished. a lot of guys come down after the first mixdown to hear what it sounds like on a club sound system. george brings his new tunes down fairly regularily, and even though they're not what i'd call "early-in-the-night" tunes we'll still always give them a proper spin.

[ppcock]

can i play trance?

[dabbler]

NO.


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