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Jun 17, 06
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I think hip-hop dj's using fs/serato will be one of the main reason tech12's will remain to be the standard for playing music at established and underground clubs. ps. fuck top 40. 
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Jun 17, 06
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Jun 17, 06
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But one thing I do have to say about cdj's. . being able to speed up your track without changing the pitch is fucking handy.
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Jun 17, 06
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Jun 17, 06
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I love being able to control 4 decks with effects for each channel. so fuckin intense!
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Jun 17, 06
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awsome, just what i thought this thread would end up being.
educational and no fighting. I do myself have CD Decks but havent used em for the longest time. i basically only bought them for remixing hindi songs. But i guess for expensive djing that keeps changing, like top 40, or songs that dont exist on Vinylm like hindi songs, cd's are good. But i still love the feel of vinyl, and will continue using vinyl, hopefully, for times to come.
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Jun 18, 06
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dubplate
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Jun 18, 06
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Jun 18, 06
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What kind of bothers me is the lack of content that is not being put on CD's from the artist and there recording label. I mean face it CDJ'S are here and they will stay.... Media is cheap... Less maintenance "don't have to change needles" so in general its cost effective. Why is it in electronica music 98% or 99% of the tracks (singles) are produced still on vinyl and not on cd's? The only cd's that you get from your artists regardless as to what genre is simply a collaberation of mixes...... Materials and distribution of cd's are indeed cheap.... So if you think of it if the materials and distribution is so cheap you can still sell your content at a price where you would be getting some nice coin!....
Instead what I am seeing is alot of artists that are complaining about people burning mp3's of vinyl rips on cd's and then playing them out.... But again the subject is why hasn't that artist released any of there tracks on a cd???? Because if they had.... then ya they would have a valid point of complaining and in all fairness support that artist...... But why should I say for instance because my preference may be cdj's...... have to purchase a turntable.... then rip it so I can put it on a cdj if I want to play it... and when it comes down to having to "prove" I own the track...... take a picture of the label on the vinyl???? So with technology and the resources and materials available....... why aren't artists putting there material on cd's as they are on vinyl?
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Jun 18, 06
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The industry has responded with online MP3 stores. Not sure if you've been paying attention to the thread. Check out stores like Beatport who are one of the leading providers of digital media for electronic music. For mainstream or wider range of media check out iTunes. Distribution thru DL sales is retardedly inexpensive. Only problem I find w/ buying MP3's online is the lenght it takes for a single to be available on MP3.
You also have indipendent artists like Psidream & Pacific, Influenza, and many others who are selling their unreleased music to the masses who are looking to buy their music. Last time I talked to Psidream about DL sales on his site he told me that he was pleasently surprised at the reaction and figures that he had pulled in on the first day of sales. Quote:
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Jun 18, 06
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Jun 18, 06
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pros it's sexy it's the original shit you can actually touch it and cue with the needle i suppose it sounds better better for scratching and juggling cons costs a shitload to by records lots of records are hard to find doesnt have as many features as some digital alternatives (pretty much only has a pitch bender) CDJ's pros you dont really have to spend much money (if any) on songs you can play your own tracks (since most ppl cant make their own vinyl) you can pack way more songs with you more features onboard (like effects, cueing points, bpm counter, speeding up without changing pitch etc. depending on the model) cons expensive to buy the decks it's not as classic as vinyl and has less respect from lots of ppl cueing points can be annoying could potentially rip off the music industry i currently spin with vinyl.....but after considering many of the pros and cons here.....im planning on switching to CDJ's very soon. My main reason is really that I dont wanna keep buying records at $20 per song....especially when i have to skytrain downtown everytime i wanna pick up a song or two....or order from the UK or something online and wait two weeks for it in the mail...And ontop of that.....the songs inevitably become old or played, and new songs have to constantly replace the old ones....and you pretty much end up with like 100 old records that you either dont wanna spin anymore or people dont wanna hear anymore. but this is mainly talking from an electronica standpoint...... vinyl will always be the best for hip hop....and i dont think i will ever like scratching with CD's more (except I'll be able to get ahold of a lot better samples for scratching).
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Jun 18, 06
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i like both >> i like to scratch with my vinyl >> but to access alot of the music i wanna play thde cdj helps me out alot > vinyl is soooo damn expensive << ask my visa bill >>> GODAAAMN!!! so i like dropping a few tracks on my cdj too <<>> but for scratching >:>VINYL ALL THE WAYY!!(or serato)
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Jun 18, 06
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Jun 19, 06
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^^ uhh you CAN scratch with CDJ's....it just doesnt have as good of a feel as vinyl....or as much authenticity in the sound.....but it isnt pre-recorded scratching sounds.....it's still the actual song being manipulated as you move the jog wheel
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Jun 19, 06
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^exactly. and I'm sure in a few years the digital scratch sound (whatever ya wanna call it) will be refined to a point of being near identical to vinyl, as more people go digital and the demand for it is higher.
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Jun 19, 06
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Jun 19, 06
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James Zabiela can scratch and produce sounds that vinyl could never duplicate. So to each their own.
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Jun 19, 06
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You've obviously used a lot of CDJs. It's not sampled loops that they use on CDJs to make the scratch sound, as much as you think it is. It's a process called "interpolation" and it's the same type of camera trick they used in The Matrix, except it applies to audio instead of video. Basically, they take a digital signal (which if you slow it down enough can be very "pixelated") and use probability to smooth out the sound between the notes depicted on the digital signal for whatever speed you happen to move the platter back or forth. So it's a lot different than the "puh-sh" sound sampled on your boombox.
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Jun 19, 06
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Jun 19, 06
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Pepsi or Coke?
Nestea or Lipton? Choose whatever you want.
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Jun 19, 06
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