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Old Jun 17, 06
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VINYL vs. CD

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state your argument, no fighting. lol. ya right.

i just want to know what you think, and your reasons, i dont want fighting, i want preference and reason.

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What can be said has already been said a million times and is really a circular argument.

However, i believe it's more viable to get serato scratchlive for home users, if they already have a laptop. If they don't already have a laptop, it's more cost effective to get CDJ's.
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before there were four reese's peanut butter cups in a pack, there were three. Some people love the extra cup. . some people waste the extra cup.

some are just glad they blended chocolate and peanut butter together so well...

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I use vinyl mostly, but also have cdj's they both have their advantages, but i havent touched my cdj's in months. I prefer vinyl, purly because i like the feeling that a whole track is a whole disc, and i like the manipulation.

I dislike cueing on cd'js, and setting different cue points take some time.

I dislike prices of vinyl, gets costly but purchasing is addicting, as someone once told me "The Black Crack".

For me Vinyl > CD

Its just what i like.
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i just want to know what you think, and your reasons, i dont want fighting, i want preference and reason.
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If they don't already have a laptop, it's more cost effective to get CDJ's.
quoted for truth. I'd much prefer vinyl, but I'm learning on cdj's because it'd cost me an arm and a leg to get vinyl up here. Not to mention how much it'd cost to get replacement cartridges, and etc.
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cds all the way, for the sake of being able to expand your music collection at a minimal price.
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I still find CDJs confusing... but I learned on Vinyl.

I keep looking at them for the experimental possibilites and variety that they can add to a set.

So I'll go practice some more with my Friends CDJs tonight.

Until I figure that shit out... Vinyl all the way.
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vinyl.

when i first heard the faint's wet from birth album on vinyl and could hear things I never was able to hear on the CD I was sold for life.

Just plain better quality.
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i like CDs, cheap and easy to make
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mp3 or stfu.
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cds all the way, for the sake of being able to expand your music collection at a minimal price.
exactly what he said.

cd's are the way to go. lighter, more portable, you can bring 10,000+ tracks to a gig if you want, quicker to receive (not waiting for new vinyl in the mail), easy and affordable to replace.
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they both have their advantages and disadvantages.
but at the end of the day, the same effect can be achieved by either format, which is what really counts.
It's purely a matter of personal preference i suppose.

I'd have to side with cds/mp3s tho, just because its a bit more practical than vinyl.
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Old Jun 17, 06
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Long live vinyl!

Vinyl will always sound better than CD. Plus, no matter what, you can't scratch a CD: all you can do is make fake scratching sounds. Yes, there are some technological advancements in the field of fake DJing. Hooray. That's fine for parties and shit, but it's a display of technology, not skill. When the DMC crowns a CDJ champion, then vinyl will truly be dead. Till that day, there's more than enough Kid Koalas out there to keep running the idea of the turntable as an instrument.
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Old Jun 17, 06
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no matter what way you look at it
there are benefits and disadvantages to each.
both are extremely clear however sound can be altered depending on the kind of needles you use when it comes to records. vinyl is also much better when it comes to feel, you have complete control over the record whereas using a small circular disc on a cdj can be somewhat awkward. the problem with vinyl is that it warps. ive had numerous records ruined due to leaving them unattended in a warm area. also when you buy vinyl you also have paid for the rights to use it infront of an audience. with cdjs u risk being sued using wav/mp3s you downloaded off the net. the problem is, nowadays most of the shit people are playing is unrealeased anyways so cdjs are the only option.
personally i love vinyl.....yet by the looks of it eventually everything will turn to cdjs in the future.
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vinyl is great. sound good, has a nice feel under the hand, more natural to manipulate yada yada but the future of dj'ing is digital. you'd be stupid to think of otherwise. i'm sure dj's will never stop using it, but as their sole medium? don't think so.

... might be interesting to dig up an old post see just how much things have turned.
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your average wannabe dj will always prefer to spin vinyl because it's the most popular, accessible medium.

however producers/artists who drop their own tunes and other artists they swap tunes with will primarily use CDj's to perform because that is way more cost effective then paying to get your dubs cut or wait to get the tune released. "dub culture" as it's been called in the past thrives on unreleased tunes because it makes those particular tracks exclusive to that circle of dj's rinsing out those jams.
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however producers/artists who drop their own tunes and other artists they swap tunes with will primarily use CDj's to perform because that is way more cost effective then paying to get your dubs cut or wait to get the tune released. "dub culture" as it's been called in the past thrives on unreleased tunes because it makes those particular tracks exclusive to that circle of dj's rinsing out those jams.
pretty much what I was going to say
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If it's there I'll use both. Why limit yourself to a crate of vinyl or a booklet of Cd's? Use all the tools given to you and hey if you have Serato or FS use that too. It's more entertaining to see a DJ use all the tools in front of them!!

But if we are going solely on what sounds better my vote is vinyl just for the warm sound it gives.
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well ive heard the quote
"Vinyl was then, CD's are now, memory cards are the future..."
if you look, cd'js incorporate the memory cards...
serato, labtops, those are memory cards....
performance wise, it should be limited to vinyl or cdjs... but also, noone wants to watch a dj stand there for 4 min cause hes already beatmatched on his comp, and noone wants to watch a dj concentrate on beat matching for whole track
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and noone wants to watch a dj concentrate on beat matching for whole track
any professional dj (and even asipriing amateurs) should be able to beatmatch their tunes in seconds - anyone who takes an entire track to beatmatch their tunes should not be playing in front of people.
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Old Jun 17, 06
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#1, before you dl tracks off soulseek and play them, you're killing your scene.. You need to buy tracks you're playing.

I use turntables, but have one cdj for throwing in the odd tune either I've made or an mp3 I've bought. I've learned that ripping tunes isn't worth it and hurts the community.

But yeah vinyl is great, but one cdj is good for a few choons.
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Really with Serato / Final Scratch, Traktor, and Ableton Live, there are more choices than plain old vinyl and CD.

I luvs my Traktor laptop, thousands of tunes, all the hardware, and a midi-"mixer" in a little bag, and all tracks instantly resortable by genre, BPM, artist etc, and multiple cue points per track.

Although I understand why people use vinyl & CD, there's no way I'd go back to those. Serato / FS - maybe, if I wanted to do scratching, but I don't.
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your average wannabe dj will always prefer to spin vinyl because it's the most popular, accessible medium.
I don't mean to argue but no, it isn't. Go take a walk around Tom Lee. It's mostly CDJs now. Plus, like you mentioned, dubplates make CDJs more accessible.
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I don't mean to argue but no, it isn't. Go take a walk around Tom Lee. It's mostly CDJs now. Plus, like you mentioned, dubplates make CDJs more accessible.
dubplates make CDj's more accesible to people who MAKE and produce music. Swapping dubplates in it self is a culture on its own. It's not accesible to just anyone.

sure enough the market for cdj's has broadened within the last few years. That with the growth of MP3 sales online its making it very accesible to dj's wanting to save $$ on music and also dj/producers looking to make a few extra coin of their unreleased tracks. it is mostly professional dj's who have been in industry longer (or have a better grasp of it) who will make the switch from vinyl to cd or support both mediums. And CDj market also has to compete with FS/Serato which is also has gained popularity. Again dj's who take themselves seriously will go forth and expand their gear.

i was referring to fly-by night dj's who've just been inspired, will often pick up tech 12's over cdj's because of its novelty and also because tech 12's still remain to be the industry standard for dj gear at clubs.

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