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Jul 01, 06
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Ever thought of producing?
So there are alot of people that are out there that are either dj's that want to get into producing or some people that just want to get into producing electronica music. However alot of questions come into mind as to "what do I want to produce?" and what type of equipment will I need and how much will it cost?
Well I thought I'd share a little something here to show you the potential of a software synth..... What I used is Ableton Live 5 with Vanguard VSTI using my PCR-M30 midi controller. I just decided to fiddle around with it a bit and record it because I know someone people get mixed feeling on some of these websites that will give you examples but they are demo's that are in tracks so only gives you a small insight as to what it can do... So have a listen to my little random playing and experimenting? and if your thinking on producing... the potential is there... www.xirrus.ca/project/fun.mp3 
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Jul 01, 06
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when i first started producing i had no idea what i was doing. Didnt know what software to use or anything.
I was 14, i downloaded a program called goldwave. I had an oldschool yamaha keyboard that i could record from with my microphone (no midi, no audio outs, = oldscho0ool!). It had yer basic cheesy keyboard sounds a drum kit. Recorded all that shit than start making loops and copying and pasting them together all in Goldwave.... fuck those songs sucked. ha ha ha ha then i got onto Rebirth.... !!!
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Jul 02, 06
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^great program, but I wouldnt recommend it for beginners.
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Jul 02, 06
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Ableton Live 5 + live bass + live vocals + MIDI drums = a ton of fun.
However, most of the time I end up producing using completely digital means (with the occasional bit of analog flare.) I have a few M-Audio keyboards, an Akai MPD MIDI drum sequencer, and access to everything from Paia 4700 modular synths, and MiniMoogs, to MC505s and such. You can checkout my productions at http://myspace.com/djokibi. Critique is always welcome.
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Jul 02, 06
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My productions lie in the upper wall of my large intestine and when I decide to eat a lot of beans - I produce all kinds of tasty basslines that smell like dead rotting birds on a hot radiator.
But on a more serious note, I like to mess around with Fruity Loops right now because I'm not a pro and just for messing around, it will do. I used Rebirth for a bit and didn't see any potential in it. The only potential is in Cubase, Reason, Ableton Live, Logic, Fruity Loops and anything by Native Instruments. Now go spend a lifetime learning one or a few of those programs.
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Jul 02, 06
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^rebirth is oldschool thats what was the shit back in 99 heheh. then reason came out which is meh.
im all about Orion Platinum i wanna learn the ableton live.
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Jul 02, 06
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Jul 02, 06
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string studio, lounge lizard, ultra analog, and tassman by applied accoustic systems are really good too... and tassman is a good alternate to reaktor 5 if you're overwhelmed by the learning curve reaktor has...
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Jul 03, 06
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Im definately gonna have to get on this. The software I currently use isnt so great for live performance, which is the direction i want to take my work.
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Jul 03, 06
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Wow, I remember way back when in early '00s I was experimenting with Mixman Studio Pro sequencer...then I branched out from that and used other programs like Fruity Loops, Rebirth, Reason, Cakewalk Pro Audio, Plasma 2003 and Sonar. I'd make all my samples using the hardware I had at the time (Roland MC505, 303, 3 different synths), and mastering software like Adobe Audition, but of course I needed cash for school.
I regret selling it all. :(
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Jul 15, 06
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Ok so my next segment of showing people the extent of having fun while producing..... I decided to use a fat bassline and use my midi controller to of course hit the other notes.... all the while a consistant basic dnb loop go's.....
this again is some playing around..... trying to remember that dnb that I end up using its signature notes..... blah... everybody will recognize it..... www.xirrus.ca/project/playtime.mp3 and if your wondering about the skipping... thats cause I am using a shitty program that records it directly has an mp3 and not as a wav so I can convert it so it would be nice and clean Last edited by b0ld; Jul 15, 06 at 07:26 PM.
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Jul 17, 06
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I use Reason 3, (which btw is not meh), Cubase, and am trying to learn how to use Absynth 3 for synth soundz. On the tools side of things, I use Sound Forge, and Recycle.
Producing stuff is loads of fun, but damn, you can sit there for days just trying to design the perfect kick / snare sound.
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Jul 17, 06
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I need to invest in better recording gear... or join a band...
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Jul 18, 06
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Hi MUX! Yeah, Ableton Live is simple and more of a Dj tool than a production sequencer. I've been using Cubase near the beggining on an Atari Falcon with 16mb Ram/ Cubase Audio and the FDI (Falcon Digital Interface) I used a Dat with a 20bit A/D converter. I went into a Mac studio called "Fresh Studios," full of digidesign 24bit boards and MACS running Protools. Well, that is the difference between a PRO studio and a home studio.
Rebirth was fun, but I was very analog orientated. I used the newer MIDI analogs like the Roland Juno 106, Roland Juno 1 (w/EV-5), and Novation BassStation. I used DINSYNC devices synced to MIDI devices like the Roland MC-202 and the TR-606. Lastly, I used the fully expanded Virtual Analog Quasimidi Rave-O-lution 309 and the Redstar Dark Star. All this gear make life much easier that using a bunch of CV gate gear and sounds great. I am so happy that I recorded in good studios and I am looking to release in the near future with Superstar records. Everyone has a choice, useing software only is a viable option. God knows the legacy collection sounds good, but sorry, doesn't sound like the real thing. MUX! I picked up a Monopoly and a Polysix and I'm liking the Polysix quite a lot more. Beautiful keys, such a nice lush sound, very new wave and drone bass. Anyways, do your thing producers, make music, but know that to make it big, your sound is goind to have to be big. Big analog gear will help, trust me, I've been recording for 10 years!
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Jul 18, 06
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If you want flexibility with production. Get a G5. MOTU Soundcard, 4 80 GB HD's, Korg Triton, Waves Sound Libraries, Kontakt, and Sample Tank. With all that you're ready to get'r done. :y:
MT: Logic (I'd say use logic for your master program, and you could always use Reason w/ the rewire function once you set up your VST channels, carefull tho, unless you have nuclear fast S.P., shits gunna lag. But the possibilities are endless) :)
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Jul 19, 06
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dont get me wrong man. Reason is quite the capable program. It gives you basically all the tools to produce a tune. I've heard really sweet stuff made with that program by itself. I just dont find it very practical. So I've stopped using it for my songs. the sequencer is wack. and when I rewire it into Orion Platinum (my midi/recording app) it eats up way too much cpu power. --Which is bogus because anything that can be accomplished within Reason can be accomplished with 3rd party vsti's just as easily.
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Jul 19, 06
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I've found that reason is excellent for when it comes down to producing stuff like experimental ambient/dark ambient type stuff. I find that it opens the doors for many different types of sounds... drones... you name it.... Which is pretty much why I produce it..... Also have been working on some harsh noise stuff with reason as well. Have done some impressive stuff with it instead of using a dozen guitar pedals and a drum machine.....
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Jul 20, 06
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I posted this in another thread...but anyhoodles...this guy has been pumping out some cool stuff using just Reason...
http://www.myspace.com/thabisnit Kinda cool. Also...I stopped using the sequencer a long time ago, I find it's way more rewarding, and practical to just 'write' the beats in. But I am curious; what do find is wrong with the Matrix sequencer? Last edited by jprime; Jul 20, 06 at 04:18 PM.
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Jul 23, 06
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i found the way its designed leads to more tedious sequencing in comparison to other recording programs. way too many unnecessary tools to switch back and forth between, among other annoying problems.
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Jul 27, 06
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All digital studios make me fuckin ill. Oh, I've got a Pentium 5 duo with a 48bit sound card and 4 gigs of RAM. FUCK YOU!
Oh, my midi keyboard is synced to my automated VST's.:123: Its not what you got, its how you use it. Do you seriously think that your capable of producing tracks like "Street Corner Symphony" on Reason? I could see tracks like "The Drill," being made, but real soul music needs a little old school funk. Don't even get me started on that real instument shit. My advice, a bass lead synth, something heavy, something dirty, something analog. No question, I love the way you can tweak the harmonics on a Roland SH-2. OK, the point is, the digital producer=good, Digital/Analog hybrid producer=better
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