Will the New Mall Where the Ozone Used to be Improve Newton?

jenai · #1 (**permalink**) Nov 30, 07

It's right across from the local AA club, and there is no nightclub anymore.

The mall has an Extra Foods, a 24-hour Shoppers Drugmart, and another fastfood, plus about a half dozen shops.

Hopefully, both Extra Foods and SD will have on-the-ball inner security.

mojo · #2 (**permalink**) Nov 30, 07

nope.

cubed · #3 (**permalink**) Nov 30, 07

who fucking cares.

Revolver · #4 (**permalink**) Nov 30, 07

newton!

lol

NinjaBoy · #5 (**permalink**) Nov 30, 07

This is like asking if quiting heroin to do coke is better for you.

I don't think a Nightclub being there or a Mall being there is what's going to make a difference. Maybe you know, cops, enforcement, proper city planning.

Lil Jenna · #6 (**permalink**) Nov 30, 07

I don't live in the Newton area so I don't know if it will improve it.

Hopefully it will, if you live near there!

wishbone · #7 (**permalink**) Nov 30, 07

newton has the pool with the water slide.

GANGSTAS BE SLIP N SLIDIN

jenai · #8 (**permalink**) Dec 02, 07

i feel the only people who will benefit will be:

the owners of SD, which is currently oppressing its Cloverdale staff that is wanting fairer wages, and has been for six years;
Extra Foods, whose owner struck back by changing store names and employment policies, because wages are expenses and workers' skills cannot be translated into profit; and
the fastfood joint's parent company, where an employee can go through a fastfood school and work their way up from about minimum wage to about 2.5-6 dollar above minimum wage depending on your willingness to put up with management practices.

I think SD employees may have a wider range of employee wages than EF but not by much since they only compete in the photo dept. EF might have a sizeable photo dept like Superstore, and SD's might just be a drop off like at Safeway. Then again, EF's photo dept might be drop off too, since it is cheaper NOT to have a photo lab with a skilled worker who is slowly being poisoned and will have to retire on health benefits in 5-15 years.

Even so, it could help ends meet in Newton. So there are as many benefits as there are negative impact. I will overlook economic competition with earlier malls in the area, since people usually are willing to try out the new kids on the block until the shine wears off.

Me, I just wonder if there will be an EB outlet and a family-owned computer store like Slaco.

Pennywise · #9 (**permalink**) Dec 07, 07

not at all.
(that's my hood)

RIP Ozone & Delanies:(

Pennywise · #10 (**permalink**) Dec 07, 07

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinjaBoy

This is like asking if quiting heroin to do coke is better for you.

I don't think a Nightclub being there or a Mall being there is what's going to make a difference. Maybe you know, cops, enforcement, proper city planning.

haha the cop shop is right beside the place

cubed · #11 (**permalink**) Dec 07, 07

Pat, I think you need to move.

**sNyx** · #12 (**permalink**) Dec 07, 07

the REAL question is will the dead hoes of ozone haunt the evening mall security with sloppy booty dancing

**sNyx** · #13 (**permalink**) Dec 07, 07

think about it.

**sNyx** · #14 (**permalink**) Dec 11, 07

you best remember who's topic killa' no.1 around here jenai
your karma means nothing without a positive 10 under your belt
keep the blue dots coming buckaroo, I crave em!

Pennywise · #15 (**permalink**) Dec 11, 07

hahaha.
I got a blue dot too!

mapleleaf4ever · #16 (**permalink**) Dec 11, 07

Naw, they should put another Strip Bar there.

The only thing that would improve Newton is this.

MC_BEATVIBE · #17 (**permalink**) Jan 07, 08

no it will not improve; cuz one newton will be always a drug town and two if tey are building a mall there; well its walking distance to some of the high schools so kids will skip school. and we all know skipping school for us was such a rush and cool to do; well some of us not me. But ya the mall would be probably a bad thing to do.

jenai · #18 (**permalink**) Jan 09, 08

What Newton youth needs is another youth worker like Turvey.

What we do not need is help from MofC&FS or whatever it is called now. The one night I once spent guarding the office in Whalley (near 108th Ave and 138th St) opened my eyes to what open space is used for (smoking dope and other BS). I even heard one drug-addled dude verbally warn me not to touch his car, unseen.

No doubt parts of Vancouver are 2-3 times worse than this!

And the two contributing factors to this are: 1) lack of childcare education in high school (because teenage pregnancy is a factor, and 2) DARE whets a child's curiosity for that it's supposed to prevent.

We also need condoms in high school washrooms and Responsible Drug Use classes.

ebbomega · #19 (**permalink**) Jan 09, 08

Whalley is the Compton of GVA. Hands down. There may be more sketchiness on the DTES but Whalley is where the gangs are.

soma · #20 (**permalink**) Jan 10, 08

will this mall provide oppertunities for hooking up with drunk, easy girls? that was the only reason we were in that block before they club closed...

I see potential for growth if this trend continued.

ebbomega · #21 (**permalink**) Jan 10, 08

Quote:

Originally Posted by soma

will this mall provide oppertunities for hooking up with drunk, easy girls? that was the only reason we were in that block before they club closed...

I see potential for growth if this trend continued.

Yes, but they're all under 18.

OH WAIT, STILL THE SAME.

Ragga_Wh0re · #22 (**permalink**) Jan 16, 08

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinjaBoy

This is like asking if quiting heroin to do coke is better for you.

I don't think a Nightclub being there or a Mall being there is what's going to make a difference. Maybe you know, cops, enforcement, proper city planning.

cops, enforcement and better city planning will do SFA to help that situation.

Ultimately what NEEDS to happen, are better social policies for addicts. More funding and more resources to meet the need, starting at at risk youth because thats when various socioeconomic problems come into play and the funding and resources is not there to support at risk youth who stand a better chance at staying addicts into thier adulthood.

Hence the current problems in various communities.Example:DTES,Whalley,Newton etc etc etc.

If funds are being misappropriated or not being given at all,more cops,enforcement and city planning is only an efficient waste of tax dollars and government funds.

Ragga_Wh0re · #23 (**permalink**) Jan 16, 08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pennywise

haha the cop shop is right beside the place

fact:

the majority of crime happens within a 6 block radius of any cop shop.

NinjaBoy · #24 (**permalink**) Jan 16, 08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ragga_Wh0re

cops, enforcement and better city planning will do SFA to help that situation.

Ultimately what NEEDS to happen, are better social policies for addicts. More funding and more resources to meet the need, starting at at risk youth because thats when various socioeconomic problems come into play and the funding and resources is not there to support at risk youth who stand a better chance at staying addicts into thier adulthood.

Hence the current problems in various communities.Example:DTES,Whalley,Newton etc etc etc.

If funds are being misappropriated or not being given at all,more cops,enforcement and city planning is only an efficient waste of tax dollars and government funds.

Untill the people in surrey realize that drug addiction isn't just that downtown thing on Main and hastings and realize that it's a huge problem in their neighborhood then nothing is going to happen.

That's what happens when you have Diane Watts in charge, she's a great mayor as long as it doesn't require her to look at anything negative.

C_squared · #25 (**permalink**) Jan 16, 08

I've never seen such genuine concern for anything Surrey ever.

props for that at least.

and big up my old hood. Newton/Whalley whuat whuat!