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Nov 06, 06
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can anyone suggest a good mixing program?
i wouldnt mind dipping my toes in something that i can mix tracks together to make a set, or something like that.
purley for my own enjoyment, any suggestions? 
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Nov 06, 06
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2 X Technics SL-1200's
1 X Mixer of your Choice lol But seriously... A lot of People I've seen have played with Traktor.
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Nov 06, 06
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Maybe add Serato to the set up!
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Nov 06, 06
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^this is exactly it, trust me if i could get the grand together for a used setup, plus have money to spare for my black crack id be all over it.
until then i gosta improvise
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Nov 06, 06
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lol You don't really NEED Techs... I've got some Numarks and a DM-950 and it works just fine. Teaches you to pay more attention to your mixing. My Setup cost the same as one Tech. :p
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Nov 06, 06
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Nov 07, 06
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I can do better mixes with Traktor 3 than i can do with decks. And its not because mixing wit decks is difficult, its because Traktor 3 is jam packed with wonderful features you usually cant get with tables unless you shell out like 5 grand. They both can can achieve the same effect as far as mixing goes, as long as you know what your doing. The only thing difference is the way you "beatmatch". But it is possible and rather easy once you get used to it. Other than that, its the same shit as long as your using high quality mp3s. With traktor 3 and two midi controllers, and keymapped keyboard i can do sets where im simultaneously controlling 4 decks and 4 seperate effects for each deck with 2 hands.... I'm in love with the program, so many great possibilities Now if you wanna get into turntablism, definatetly get tables. The only reason i havent purchased my own decks yet is the price factor.
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Nov 07, 06
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and ya erik i suppose i could try nummarks or somehting other than techs, but the only thing being what happens when i decide hey i like this alot and am stuck with less than average tables? if i buy tables for a grand at least i know i can sell them for roughly the same price, ahwell, ill see how much work i get done on winter break
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Nov 07, 06
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man, people are going to hate me for this, but...
if you're just starting out now, I sure as hell wouldn't suggest getting turntables. If you gotta have some hardware, maybe some CD decks? Five or six years ago, yeah, nothing could touch vinyl for sonic quality or feeling - that's just not the case anymore. PCDJ is a good suggestion for starting out, Traktor is awesome, and if you find that you're really enjoying it maybe move up to Ableton Live.
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Nov 08, 06
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got pcdj,
i dont think im usuing it properly, i dont have the right sound card to cue up tracks properly, and i cant get the bmp counter to work. not sure what to try now, ideally this was going to let me know if id even like tables, but how can i know if i dont have all the same stuff, ahwell. let me know if you wanna give a guy an hour on some tables to see lol jk.
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Nov 08, 06
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I never really figured out how to use it super well, but its a good way to understand the concepts behind it.
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Nov 08, 06
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At first I thought software was the way to go. thats until I got decks..... software makes mixing extremely boring considering its essentially "point and click" mixing, absolutely NO effort involved. The program does the rest for you. And you think mixing is difficult???? The beauty about vinyl is the fact that that you do have a more natural approach of having full control when it comes down to cue'ing beatmatching and mixing. I'll let you into something here... I only got my decks a month ago.... ya ok I am starting out... ok what ever... Big up some drum and bass vinyl however I ended up picking up some hard dnb such as technical itch/noisia some logistic's stakka and skynet.... etc.... Ok so I admit that it was difficult and I may have overshot my own expectations to try and mix it. So instead I ended up picking up some progressive house and electro. I brought the vinyl home put them on the decks and sure enough I was able to mix all 4 tracks back to back easily... So instead I ended up mixing again but used some tracks on side b as well as uncategorizing as to what I was going to mix..... Again I mixed it.... (ok so I might of messed up a little bit on 2 transitions) but either way.... the mixing was at easy... was easy and hands on. And even at that if you believe mixing is difficult on turntables.... When I do my cuing in my headphones I use my right ear... Sure enough my right ear is also my bad ear, infact when i was a kid the doctor set me up with a hearing aid however I don't use it because it doesn't feel natural to me. I can faintly hear some tones (such as vocals) however I am certainly able to hear the "kick" to a beat so therefore I can count the bars in a track and be able to precisely determine at what point I need to bring the next track in.... I know that there are other things to work on such as eqing and such... What I guess what I am getting at is don't let a set of turntables and a mixer intimidate you because not only is it more fun then software but its also a learning experience...
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Nov 08, 06
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Nov 08, 06
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. you miss understood me. if you re-read my post, I said " ..its not because mixing on decks is difficult....". meaning i dont find mixing on decks difficult. the 5 grand figure was just a rough estimate of what it would cost for the analog equivalent of software like traktor 3. With the ammount of features it has, you would rack up quite a hefty price tag going the analog route.... maybe not 5000$ , but close to it, considering how cheap the software is. and also. Regarding your comment about no effort involved with mixing on software. This is untrue with Traktor. I don't mix house or techno with traktor so its not automatic whatsoever. I mix broken beat styles of electronica with styles like classic rock and hip hop, blues,funk,jazz etc... so just calculating the bpms on each deck then syncing them doesnt work. the beatmatching process is very similar to decks. except instead of slowing or speeding down the record with my fingers. I've programmed pitch bend down and pitch bend up buttons for each deck that i can manipulate with my keyboard. Its great that you love your turntables, but clearly you don't know what your talking about when it comes to the software out there. Last edited by -evil-duerr-; Nov 08, 06 at 04:09 PM.
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Nov 08, 06
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i think this post ended up confuseing me more than anything, ahwell :)
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Nov 09, 06
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^ seriously man,
either traktor 3 or ableton live are the main programs you want to look at. Both tried and true programs that work and work well for both professional and personal uses.
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Nov 27, 06
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Well if you are trying to learn to mix not produce. Hit up Traktor Studio 3 or maybe Virtual DJ with a decent skin on it. You can demo both and they are pretty cheap to buy. If you know how to mix and just want some more fun/challenge then hit up Ableton Live...(mmm).
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