Which Tables/Mixer to Buy

[Goodfellow]

I know this type of question has probably been asked a lot.. but I decided Im gunna buy a setup and was wondering which tables other than tech12s would be worth getting (if at all).

I was lookin at say..

Stanton T60 Direct Drive DJ Turntable (230ish)

The T60 is Stanton’s most affordable direct drive turntable. It features a powerful motor with plenty of torque, a straight tone arm ideal for scratching, plus two Start/Stop switches, a pitch control slider and removable target light—all at a great price.
Features:
Affordable direct drive turntable with eye-catching design
Straight tone arm for superior tracking when scratching
2 Start/Stop switches for mix or battle setup
Pitch control slider with + / - 10% adjustment
2 playback speeds: 33 or 45 RPM
2 RCA outputs (cable included) and ground connector
Includes Stanton 500 Series cartridge, slip mat and cloth dust cover

or..

Numark TT200 Direct Drive Super High Torque DJ Turntable. (250 ish)


Features
Direct-drive super high-torque motor

Straight tone arm.

Battle and club style design

Steel top, rubberized base, aluminum platter

User-replaceable pitch fader.

Detachable power and audio connections

33-45-78 RPM, reverse

Im just wondering about how theyll hold up to pretty extensive scratching and what not...... ? I picked up all the basics and scratchin n' stuff really quickly on a buddies setup, so Im not really lookin at gettin a "beginner" setup fyi.

and then mixers i don't even know where to start.....

[meth0dical]

if you dont want a beginners setup then you should be looking for techs.
just save your money and then wait for an craigslist ad from a failed attempt at superstardom for a complete package.

[b0ld]

There's a pawn shop on granville.. across from the "rock shop" that are selling tech 12's for 250 each...

If your not looking into tech's... Then I wouldn't suggest those 2 turntables that you have labelled out. Not because of the manufacturer but because of the series model... Both the t.60 and tt200 have weak motor's on them. You will not get the performance out of them especially if your scratching. Infact... You'll destroy them really fast... The staton t.150 or the numark tt500 or ttx series have a really strong motor and can take a shit kickin and still work up to bar.

As for mixers for scratching... Vestax is where its at... There are even some stanton mixers out there if your on a budget... Everything else really wouldn't be ideal.

[GSG9]

for scratching.... tech 12s or gtfo.

[KrisisID]

honestly man, anything other than tech's would be a waste of money, there are a few going on Craigslist and also REVscene.net - The Northwests #1 Sport Compact Car and Classifieds Website for pretty cheap. if you're lucky, you'll find someone who knows nothing about TT's and get em for a great price.

[Psykadelik]

Actually there are some pretty good Technics alternatives out there. Ever since Techincs lost the patent to their 1200 model, companies like stanton, numark, citronic, etc. have been able to take advantage of their design and added some useful. They are also cheaper then the techs and the quality is pretty good.

For alternate Tech solutions, I would recommend:

Stanton Str8/ST-150
Stanton T.120/T.120C
Citronic PD-45MkII
American Audio HTD 4.5
Numark TTX
Numark TT-500
Shoot, even Gemini TT-04

These are the companies that took advantage of that patent. I personally recommend the Stanton str8-150. I think they are best Tech alternative. I own a pair and I love them. They also got good reviews from Skratchworx, Remix, and won DJ Mags Turntable of the year award in 2004 and 2005. I never heard of any issues with them as far as failing.

:: Stanton ::

If you were interested in doing something deeper with scratch mixing you should look at the Vestax PDX-3000. It has a midi input so you can connect a midi keyboard with it and you can do some ill things. Check out the links below.

YouTube - DJ UNKUT Show Case VESTAX
YouTube - 【石橋楽器店 】Vestax / PDX-3000 デモ・ãƒ*ービã� �¼

As far as mixers go, there is such a broad range of them so help us help you. Do you want to mix, go into turntablism, etc.? Oh yeah a budget helps too.

[Goodfellow]

sounds like i should just get techs. im thinkin of also gettin that Rane TTM 57SL , because I want serato anyway right? it looks pretty damn sick. might as well just ball out.

[ebbomega]

Having a single usb table might be beneficial, especially if you happen to play serato...

But for mixing use techs. It's the same table you're going to play on at 99.99% of the shows you do, so why bother learning on something else?

[Goodfellow]

Originally Posted by b0ld

There's a pawn shop on granville.. across from the "rock shop" that are selling tech 12's for 250 each...

If your not looking into tech's... Then I wouldn't suggest those 2 turntables that you have labelled out. Not because of the manufacturer but because of the series model... Both the t.60 and tt200 have weak motor's on them. You will not get the performance out of them especially if your scratching. Infact... You'll destroy them really fast... The staton t.150 or the numark tt500 or ttx series have a really strong motor and can take a shit kickin and still work up to bar.

As for mixers for scratching... Vestax is where its at... There are even some stanton mixers out there if your on a budget... Everything else really wouldn't be ideal.

Do you know the name of that place by chance?? I know where that is.. but Im on the island, so Id like to call them before to find out for sure.

[b0ld]

don't know the name of the place but he has one of them displayed at his front window..

[Psykadelik]

Originally Posted by Goodfellow

sounds like i should just get techs. im thinkin of also gettin that Rane TTM 57SL , because I want serato anyway right? it looks pretty damn sick. might as well just ball out.

It's more or less the TTM-56 with serato intergrated in it with a few extras like kill buttons, XLR inputs, universal power, etc. You can't go wrong with that mixer. Another mixer to look at would be the Vestax PMC-08 Pro or perhaps an Ecler Hak 380 and purchase Serato seperately. They will come at a lesser price than the TTM-57 if you order them from Axe Music and they do free ground shipping for products over $200 I think.

[Mr Ektion]

The Rane is gangster.

A + to consider with Technique TT's. It's very easy to resell your gear down the road because Tech's are durable and have the reputation of being a rock solid piece of hardware.

A - to consider is that there is only 1 person in all of vancouver who is authorized to service your Techniques and he can be pricey.

[mapleleaf4ever]

I started on Numark TT-1625s.

Go Tech or go home. They're my next acquisition.

As for a Mixer, you don't need anything too special. Any basic 2 or 3 channel should do you.

[Mr Ektion]

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