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fun, but the crack of all Hallucinogenics.
i do not reccomend anyone to try this drug 
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Jul 05, 03
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if you thought dmt was "fun" then you probably went into it with the wrong mindset.
i'd suggest waiting a few more years, maturing, reading a few books on it. then try it again. curious... why the comparison with crack? are you sure what you did was dmt?
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Jul 06, 03
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Jul 06, 03
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i compare it to crack because you get high instantly, and it lasts the shortest of any hallucinogens i've done(around 30 to 40 minutes).
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Jul 06, 03
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so you ventured into the extreme netherregions of your brain, met a few elves and gnones along the way, discovered the missing link between quantum physics and relativity, had a chat with god, and all you have to say about it is that it reminded you of CRACK of all things?
please, for your own good, and to preserve the substances for others, do not do any more hallucinogenic drugs until you have matured a bit more. then, you might be able to fully appreciate the situation, and not just see it as a neat way to get fucked up. also, dmt is *extremely* powerful and might show you things you've never dreamt of. this could change your life. why anyone would want to do dmt when they were 18 is beyond me. i prefer the prime directive form of existence where i let myself develop naturally. once i am comfortable with who i am, i then fire up the warp core*, and let a passing trade ship** introduce me federation***. when this will be, or if it will ever be, i have no clue. i do know that 18 is too young. though, i get the feeling that it wouldn't have mattered either way. (metaphor help) * dmt ** alternate universes *** that which is not covered by your present reality
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Jul 06, 03
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wow you take your drugs seriously....i never thought i'd hear anyone say that you have to "mature" before you use a drug? people usually sat it is immature to use....but blah ive never tried it so i have no clue whut you are talking about.... i was with andrew when he tried it and it was a split second decision for him to go ahead and try it....
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Jul 07, 03
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dmt is one of the chemicals that your brain releases when you die. some suspect it to be the reason for near-death experiences. others see it to be the key to the afterlife, or an entry way into other dimensions that the brain is not normally capable of seeing.
needless to say, dmt can bring on *very* intense hallucinations. these hallucinations aren't just of the pretty swirly types either. these are full on alternate realities. one of dmt's biggest proponents, terrence mckenna, has a theory where in he observes that since a dmt trip is so incredibly surreal, that these trips must actually exist! he feels that the brain is incapable of coming up with such bizzarre entities. he might be right, or he might be wrong. either way, dmt is not something to be played around with. as for drugs being immature? drugs are very dangerous things. only the mature should touch them. just because everyone you know that uses drugs is immature, doesn't mean that there aren't responsible people experimenting safely. or at least ones that don't jump blindly into situations hoping for a quick fix.
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Jul 07, 03
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Dmt
fun, but the crack of all Hallucinogenics. i do not reccomend anyone to try this drug okay skitzo, lemme guess. you tried the white crystalinne stuff that a certain dealer in maple ridge got ahold of, gram for gram for K? if you came back thinking it was crack like, or whippet like (getting hit by the whippet truck's my fav. description so far) then you were probably smoking 5MeO DMT. It's a hell of alot different from NN-DMT, which is what is mostly referred to as just DMT. 5MeO = psychadellic crack NN DMT = ejection seat for your consiousness. (oh and fyi, 5MeO DMT is legal, and generally costs alot more than the said ridgian paid for it :)) But make sure you do your research! Last edited by Rytalin; Jul 07, 03 at 03:04 PM.
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Jul 07, 03
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It's awesome to see alot of kids are getting interested in it, but to get the most out of it, its not something you should just use whenever. In order to break thru to DMT space, you pretty much have to accept your own death and completely let go of your body. It's a really hard thing to do, I still haven't managed to break thru yet. If your interested in it, and where it can take you, there's alot of good literature out there about it. DMT: The spirit Molecule is probably one of the best reads for it, as well as any material by Terrence McKenna. http://mckenna.drugtext.org/ <- huge library of seminars/speeches he's made start exploring deeper into where mushrooms and acid can take you as well. Try a good dose of mushrooms with syrian rue. (you can get it as well at the urban shaman, inside blunt brothers) The more comfortable you can get yourself in a deeper psychadellic mindset, the easier something like DMT will go into your system. (don't get too comfortable though! you gotta come back to this reality sometime...) Oh and if you want to meet people who are big into this sorta stuff, come hang out at places like Organix on fridays at club 23 and check out www.tribalharmonix.org
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Jul 07, 03
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Notes on the Visual Stages of a DMT Trip
0 - 20 seconds - a scratchiness in the lungs 20 - 30 seconds - a buzzing starts in the ears, rising in tone and volume to an incredible intensity. Its like cellophane being ripped apart (or the fabric of the universe being torn asunder). Your body will vibrate in sympathy with this sound, and you will notice a sharp blood pressure rise. You may feel like you are deeply under water. Wearing a unitard or leotard and tights helps to minimize this sensation. Your visual field will also vibrate in resonance to the sound and will finally be completely obscured by the visions. 30 seconds - 1 minute - You break through into DMT hyperspace. Often at this point, users believe that their hearts or breathing have stopped. This is not true. To an outside observer, you are breathing normally and your pulse, while elevated, is strong. We believe that this subjective effect is due to your 'internal clock' being slowed so greatly that the subjective time interval between breaths or heartbeats seems like an eternity. Synthetic DMT has been extensively tested by medical authorities here and in Europe. It is perfectly safe with no lasting physical effects at these doses. However, since smoked DMT causes an abrupt blood pressure increase, it is probably not good for people with abnormally high blood pressure. 1 minute - 2 minute - 5 minutes - depending on dosage: DMT hyperspace. For all practical purposes, you will no longer be embodied. You will be part of the intergalactic information network. You may experience any of the following: Sense of transcending time or space Strange plants or plantlike forms The universe of formless vibration Strange machines Alien music Alien languages, understandable or not Intelligent entities in a variety of forms Do not be amazed and do not try to actively direct your observations but merely pay attention. The beings can show you amazing things, but if you try to impose your personal trip on the DMT you will find that you cannot and may become frightened. At the end of the 'flash' of the visions you will have an after-vision of circular interlocking patterns in exquisite colors. It has been described as looking at a vaulted ceiling or dome. If you did not 'breakthrough' to the levels described above, this 'chrysanthemum' pattern, as we call it, is all you will see. It is worth the trip, too. You may begin to wonder how you will ever find your way back to your body. If you have taken enough DMT to fully 'breakthrough', by the time you can even wonder about it, you are almost back. Trust in your own wetware; your psyche and your body will be reunited. Worrying will only prolong the process. 5 - 12 minutes - The visions have subsided. There are still patterns when you close your eyes, but with eyes open the world is back. At this point a flood of information may rush through your mind. The phase is fleeting. In order to preserve your DMT ideation, we recommend that you begin talking as soon as you come out of the visionary state. Don't try for complete sentences but get as many ideas out as you can while you can. Have a tape recorder running during the trip and you can review your thoughts at a later time. 15 - 30 minutes - The ideation flood subsides leaving you euphoric. You may still have a trace of the vibrations in your body. 30 - 60 minutes - The euphoria subsides. 60+ minutes - You are completely down. Note: While we recommend above not to combine DMT with other hallucinogens, we have had excellent results using DMT as a 'pre-dose' for LSD, MDMA, MDA, or mushrooms. The technique is to take the second hallucinogen orally just as you come out of the vision state. The resulting trip will be more profound and will help you to understand the strange and alien vistas which you were shown while on the DMT. (For more details, see our Note from underground no. 4.)
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that is just fuckin crazy. definetly sounds like something not to be messed around with, not just for safety reasons but mainly spiritual reasons. if people are saying they see the afterlife from using dmt, then thats the most tripped out thing i've ever heard. i'll bet it can seriously alter the way you see reality for the rest of your life, might be for the good but i think its for the worst. if there really is an afterlife, Heaven and Hell, then i really think dmt should be used with utmost respect and mature responsibility. every person who is somewhat religious should know that things like this should not be tempered with by just anyone
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Jul 07, 03
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yes dmt is definately not to be messed with... i haven't tried it but i know what the feeling of being ripped out of reality is like, and u have to be completely at one with yourself to except such a journey without freaking out....
i had 2 trips, were i inhaled a bowl of salvia 10x extract. every preperation was made, i was sitting, had baby sitters, everything... after my third toke, i exhaled and i got a buzzing in my legs and arms, almost like when ur leg falls asleep, except it expanded and engulfed my entire body, i then seized to exist, i wasen't a human, i didn't know who i was, i didn't understand how i had arrived on this alien planet.. fear and horror engulfed my mind because i could not understand and i refused to let go and let it happen...my two friends had changed into 2 mayan square pyramids, but made out of lego, they were saying something to me but i couldn't let myself go to actually hear it... the roof started coming down on me, and i was surrounded in a jungle made of vines of electricity and industrial looking objects... and as soon as i thought i was never gonna come out of this because it felt like an eternity, but then all of a sudden i remembered that i had smoked salvia and who i was... it was a crazy trip and i never touched it after that,, i also had a bad mushroom trip after that... and since never done hallunigens, But i believe i had these trips because of my need to be in control, at that point in my life before these trips, i used to be more down to earth on my mushrooms trips, i could let go and just live in the moment, and not worry about the pressures of life...... but i took hallucinagens for granted, and started using them to get High and to escape but now i realize that that was the cause for my bad trips... next time i do mushrooms im gonna do it up north on a sunny day in the forest .... i had the best trip of my life like that, and i hope to rekindle the spirit within... hallunagens can be a beautiful thing, and can make u a strong minded person, more aware of the universe and the beauty of the world... but they can also bring the uglyness of your being out if u do not respect them and take them for the right reasons... so be careful!!! :) :)
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Jul 07, 03
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mark emory suggested that i do DMT....for those of you who don't know who that is...he's the leader of the marijuana party....he came to my skool to do some speaking i don't know what for cuz i missed it but i was talkin to him afterwards and a bunch of us convinced him to blaze with us...i got his autograph and everything and he suggested we try it out.....i looked it up on erowid and what not but i still haven't been able to find a source.....a couple close calls but nothing yet.......kinda quit the hallucinogenics only becuz i was sick of doing acid and shrooms......i want some fucking mescaline or dmt goddamnit!!!
FUCK!! corrie
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asking offhand to see if anyone has it suggests that you haven't done any of this. please, for your own good and safety, accomplish as much of the above as you can. and if at all possible, wait a few years. find out who you are before you find out what else you can be.
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but your right, its definetly not meant for just anyone.
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uhm.... *wink* *points at the PM button*
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Jul 08, 03
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...ok,
please folks, help a newbie out here. ive never done anything but smoked pot, however, im really interested in this thread.. salvia... isnt that completely legal? dmt? is it legal? if it doesnt do you any bodily damage, why wouldnt it be? wouldnt dmt sort of be like dying and coming back? what a life changing experience. id be hella chicken shit to ever try something like that. id probably land up in an asylum for the rest of my life.
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Jul 08, 03
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^^actually your body probably would hold back from breaking thru if you tried it :)
That's the problem I've had with it so far... I'm not prepared to make the hyperspace jump yet.... so whenever I get enough into me, my body freaks out, blacks out and I wake up 30 seconds later wondering what the fuck happened, and feeling like I'm about to die. it's actually not as freaky as it sounds :) but its kind of a big slap in the face that its not time yet. if you wanna start exploring psychadellia, try mushrooms. There pretty tame, especially when you first start out, and they're also time proven over 1000's ov years not to be bad for us.
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Jul 08, 03
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You generally gotta eat at least 4 grams or so of most common cubensis mushrooms for anything really visual to happen.
try taking a couple grams of syrian rue half an hour before to eat the mushrooms :) that'll make things pretty visual.......
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Jul 09, 03
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